PSU @ Ok State: Will it be televised? FS1? BTN?
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The Iowa-OkieState dual was televised by FoxSports Southwest and FoxSports Oklahoma. I was able to watch that dual at a local sports bar.
I'm hoping to be able to do the same for PSU-OkieState, even if the telecast is delayed by an hour or so. Just gotta determine if the meet will be televised and, if so, by whom and what channel. And how long the telecast delay will be.
Edit - Just found the link below, which states:
"Action is set for 4 p.m. and the match is scheduled to be streamed live on FloWrestling and broadcast on delay on Fox College Sports. No time has been announced. The Penn State Sports Network will broadcast the match free of charge."
http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsext...cle_ab89efd6-00bd-5efe-b0a6-aaaee908a859.html
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Putting to bed a NWCA urban legend -
ESPN never ever offered to televise the national dual championships.
Scott is a huge Penn State fan and a huge Penn State wrestling fan. Seems likely.
I had seen 1 hour mentioned earlier, but have seen nothing "official" yet regarding the time delay. Gotta believe it won't be more than 2 hours, and more likely 1 hour. But still need to confirm this.
I tried to sign up recently for $20, but it wouldn't let me. They wanted $30 and I said no to that.
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Agree. Paying $20 or $30 (which is what I lately have seen) for one match is price gouging by FLO. FLO is taking what used to be free and charging a hefty price for. And the quality is poor (freeze ups during matches, no riding time info, sometimes no names or wrong names or failure of camera to pan and show action at edge of match).
Flo is definitely charging $30. I bought the annual subscription back in October and it was $20/month back then. This is an ultimate scum move by them.
I must have purchased from FLO yesterday prior to the...AHEM...price increase.
Its like the SC hotels raising rates for FB weekends. There's no way a Super8 is worth $300/night (with a 2 night minimum).
Its like the SC hotels raising rates for FB weekends. There's no way a Super8 is worth $300/night (with a 2 night minimum).
Tape delay might not be same day -- FS1 has an MMA match scheduled that night.
http://www.foxsports.com/tv-listings
http://www.foxsports.com/tv-listings
So who is making the money with NWCA? Seems like FLO is making all the money with essentially a pay per view type set up? I am confused as to why the college teams would do something like this unless the NWCA is covering all their costs and putting money in their pockets. But I cannot believe that FLO paid that much money to cover that type of expense. So this seems like a legit scam being portrayed here where FLO is making money on the backs of PSU-Okie State.
NWCA doesn't have anything to do with it. Flo has a contract with OK State to show their home duals, just like BTN/BTN Plus has with all of the BIG schools.
Flo has been tremendous for our sport. If they negotiated an agreement with Ok State and this fall under that agreement then I have no problem with it. Smart business in my view and I think wrestling fans should applaud and reward smart business decisions for companies that help our sport.
Now in terms of the quality issues with their feeds ... that's an entirely different issue that they need to address to be credible in the market.
Now in terms of the quality issues with their feeds ... that's an entirely different issue that they need to address to be credible in the market.
They have, but that doesn't provide a justification for jacking up the price in the most anticipated dual of the year.
From Flo's Twitter feed yesterday:
How To Watch
ON TV: Now available on Roku and Apple TV
STREAMING: Available only on FloWrestling JOIN NOW.
Join FloPRO now for access for the best wrestling content on the planet. Get live streams, original, documentaries, technique videos and more.
What are the options through Apple TV and Roku? Must you still have a Flo account?
How To Watch
ON TV: Now available on Roku and Apple TV
STREAMING: Available only on FloWrestling JOIN NOW.
Join FloPRO now for access for the best wrestling content on the planet. Get live streams, original, documentaries, technique videos and more.
What are the options through Apple TV and Roku? Must you still have a Flo account?
So Okie State is making money from Flo. That is fine. Then what is PSU getting out of this match with Okie State? Are they getting have the Pay per view money Okie State is getting with this? That would be like saying that Big Ten network has a deal with PSU so they are broadcasting the Rose Bowl on PPV only. If Okie State wants to sell their rights for conference and OOC home dual schedule, that seems fine. But the NWCA is a tournament type arrangement that should not fall in that jurisdication and be something else. Seems like PSU is getting the raw end of the deal.
This is basically no different then any other home dual for broadcast rights.
This is not a post season event. It is a regular season dual.
Huh? Go back to last year when the dual was at PSU covered by BTN. What did OK State get out of it from a money stand point? Answer, same as PSU is getting this year. I can't figure out what you are so outraged about.
I may be alone or even in the minority, but in my opinion I get more from flo - interviews, matches, FRL, tweets, message board comments, etc - than I give them a year.
Perspective is everything.
Perspective is everything.
A friend of mine just told me about a free sports streaming site called Wiziwig.com. He said they carry almost all NFL games and it is great because you can watch west coast games that you normally do not get to watch. I will try to post a link so you can check it out. The big question is I don’t know if they will be streaming the match on Sunday but I will give it a look see.
http://wiziwig.me/livesports
Don't think so Talked to Scott today but he didn't say. I'm guess is no
Roku is a streaming service so I'd think you'd have to have access to the content in the first place to watch it.
The scuffle feed was really choppy for about the first hour. After that it was smooth. Streaming is frustrating, and I was certainly frustrated, but the alternative is following stick figures on Track for 30 seconds at a time.
Per Jeff Beyers at the end of last weekend's broadcast, his free online audio coverage will begin at 3:40 PM ET.
The Dual Championship is scheduled to begin at 4 PM ET. Expect there will be some hoopla beforehand, introductions, captains meeting, etc, before the first match begins.
Something close to this is pretty likely.
Hope that is helpful papride1.
Here again is the link to the free online audio by Penn State's excellent announcer Jeff Byers.
Sunday, Feb. 19, 2017
4:00 p.m. ET
Audio
at
Oklahoma State
Stillwater, Okla.
Listen: Audio
http://www.gopsusports.com/sports/m-wrestl/sched/psu-m-wrestl-sched.html
4:00 p.m. ET
Audio
at
Oklahoma State
Stillwater, Okla.
Listen: Audio
http://www.gopsusports.com/sports/m-wrestl/sched/psu-m-wrestl-sched.html
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Link to Flo's lawsuit against OSU, Track, NWCA, NBC here. (PDF on Dropbox)
Pretty much what I guessed. Flo cites its exclusive deal with OSU, says OSU breached agreement and all co-defendants conspired to tortiously interfere with the agreement. Was kind of hoping to see agreement itself attached as an exhibit but they didn't bother. Judging from subsequent events (case voluntarily dismissed, Flo continues to advertise match) OSU et al quickly caved.
Most interesting stuff is in paragraphs 20-22, which finds Flo describing how it would be harmed if it lost exclusivity. No mention of the recent price increase.
20. The business model of FloSports relies upon attracting viewers to pay to view a high profile event such as the Oklahoma State February 19 Dual Meet, and converting some percentage of these viewers to longer-term paid subscribers, which creates significant value in FloSports' business. As a result, if Plaintiff is unable to exclusively stream the Oklahoma State February 19 Dual Meet in accordance with its rights, it will lose forever an indeterminable number of long-term subscribers. This loss will, in turn, do irreparable and substantial damage to the value of Plaintiff's business. In addition, Plaintiff relies upon data gleaned from streaming high profile events to further refine and enhance its business strategy, marketing, pricing, and operations. If Plaintiff is unable to exclusively stream the Oklahoma State February 19 Dual Meet in accordance with its rights, this data will never be available to Plaintiff and cannot be recreated.
21. As the holder of exclusive rights to stream Oklahoma State home dual wrestling events, Plaintiff has a loyal subscriber base who have paid for, and now expect, to watch all Oklahoma State home dual wrestling meets on Plaintiff's platform. If Defendants are not enjoined from streaming the Oklahoma State February 19 Dual Meet, Plaintiff's subscribers would be unable to watch the meet on Flo Sports, and would be forced to watch it on Plaintiff's competitor's platform. Plaintiff will lose some unknowable portion of these customers to its competitor, potentially for the foreseeable future, and may also suffer damage as upset subscribers seek refunds from Plaintiff when their expectations are not met. Advertisers and potential advertisers will follow.
22. The full extent of damages that will be caused cannot be accurately measured or fully compensated in money damages, as the exact amount of customers and the dollar figure attributed to their viewing habits during and even after the event cannot be fully known. Many times, these are customers who remain loyal and will continue to watch sporting events of all kinds through their preferred streaming provider. Additionally, this affects Plaintiff's ability to attract advertisers who want to maximize their audience of sports fans.
21. As the holder of exclusive rights to stream Oklahoma State home dual wrestling events, Plaintiff has a loyal subscriber base who have paid for, and now expect, to watch all Oklahoma State home dual wrestling meets on Plaintiff's platform. If Defendants are not enjoined from streaming the Oklahoma State February 19 Dual Meet, Plaintiff's subscribers would be unable to watch the meet on Flo Sports, and would be forced to watch it on Plaintiff's competitor's platform. Plaintiff will lose some unknowable portion of these customers to its competitor, potentially for the foreseeable future, and may also suffer damage as upset subscribers seek refunds from Plaintiff when their expectations are not met. Advertisers and potential advertisers will follow.
22. The full extent of damages that will be caused cannot be accurately measured or fully compensated in money damages, as the exact amount of customers and the dollar figure attributed to their viewing habits during and even after the event cannot be fully known. Many times, these are customers who remain loyal and will continue to watch sporting events of all kinds through their preferred streaming provider. Additionally, this affects Plaintiff's ability to attract advertisers who want to maximize their audience of sports fans.
Looks like you need hardware for Roku. I was hoping it was just an "app" on my so called smart TV.
FloWrestling wants a monthly subscription of $12.50 / mo.
Sucks, but I may have to sit this one out or listen on the radio. Total BS.
