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Seems to have worked out well for Nick and Penn State has somehow managed to eke out a few NCAAs titles without him.
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Seems to have worked out well for Nick and Penn State has somehow managed to eke out a few NCAAs titles without him.
I thought that there was something fishy about that state.That's one nice thing about Iowa, trout season is 365 days a year
pay lakes shouldn't countI thought that there was something fishy about that state.
Going with Wife, 2 teens kids, MIL and FIL. About as far from single as it gets.Be young and single when you go. I did and it was great.
The interviews with each national champion opened my eyes. The Penn State wrestlers mentioned God in their remarks. I would guess that the kid from Jersey was not into that so much. Seems he did not mesh with the culture of the team very well.
I think suriano's departure is finally going to catch up to PSU this upcoming year. PSU could still win it all, but that's a ton of points that would be really nice to have in what looks to be a dog fight.
You actually think this is funny? SMFH!Maybe his views on Catholicism were tainted by a priest while at Bergen?
Hey now... Don't lump us all with Jammenz. We don't even claim him and farm him out to NebbyTo move further away from the state of Minnesota and its overzealous wrestling fans who post on the PSU Rivals site.
I think that the "never understanding" is what keeps this stream going. Most of the folks on here hold the highest of opinions on Penn State, the wrestling team and its coaches making it difficult to understand how anyone could walk away from the opportunity to be a part of something that is now historic. Not that we need to know or deserve to know but "never understanding" it.Not trying to be a smart aleck at all...
For anyone still truly interested in this story, and has half-an-ounce of computer-search literacy (including on this forum), there's so much info out there in the interweb that you could miss a week's worth of meals reading it all. Me? No hard feelings one bit with the wrestler, though I'll never understand the preoccupation from fans.
Chance to be the big fish closer home and save a lot of tuition money...His move hurt because Lee was in the next recruiting class thinking Suriano was here....Curious, how long was he at PSU? When did he go back to Rutgers? Any info would be appreciated.....thank you in advance!
They (folks here) do, and I know that. The Suriano story is an old one, and long-ago-sailed, so please allow me to comment on the section I bolded above in general terms.I think that the "never understanding" is what keeps this stream going. Most of the folks on here hold the highest of opinions on Penn State, the wrestling team and its coaches making it difficult to understand how anyone could walk away from the opportunity to be a part of something that is now historic. Not that we need to know or deserve to know but "never understanding" it.
I agree with you totally Roar but must add that the use of the term "elitist thinking" is a double edge sword as it insinuates that those who have a different perspective then the accuser are somehow stepping over an invisible line that he has established, and is therefore above or elite compared to the others. All opinions matter, particularly to those voicing them. IMOThey (folks here) do, and I know that. The Suriano story is an old one, and long-ago-sailed, so please allow me to comment on the section I bolded above in general terms.
It's elitist thinking to believe what is bolded above, imo. Values, attitudes, principles, etc. cause athletes to be bad fits for some colleges, regardless of whether the wrestler is a top talent and the college a successful program. Could be wrestling, football, basketball, or any sport. Can't make a round peg fit a square hole, and we shouldn't judge the athlete. Just a bad fit, and these situations are neither the fault of the athlete or the institution.
Not quite what I'm saying, so if I miss the mark, post again. My reference is to anyone that isn't open to the idea that it's complicated, and a top athlete leaving a top program really isn't so hard to understand.I agree with you totally Roar but must add that the use of the term "elitist thinking" is a double edge sword as it insinuates that those who have a different perspective then the accuser are somehow stepping over an invisible line that he has established, and is therefore above or elite compared to the others. All opinions matter, particularly to those voicing them. IMO
Chance to be the big fish closer home and save a lot of tuition money...His move hurt because Lee was in the next recruiting class thinking Suriano was here....
Not quite what I'm saying, so if I miss the mark, post again. My reference is to anyone that isn't open to the idea that it's complicated, and a top athlete leaving a top program really isn't so hard to understand.
Please somebody make this trope dieChance to be the big fish closer home and save a lot of tuition money...His move hurt because Lee was in the next recruiting class thinking Suriano was here....
Please somebody make this trope die
Suriano would have moved to 133, which you might have noticed he did anyway.
Lee would not have let Suriano deter him regardless. He would've viewed Suriano as a practice partner, not an obstacle.
Lee gave his reasons for going to Iowa, and it was about preparing for Worlds and the Olympics.
And his decision point was attending Wotld Team Trials in Iowa City, and watching both finalists at his weight being Hawks.
BTW, Tomasello didn't deter Lee from Ohio State either.
than what??Maybe gable will transfer than?
I doubt very much that Suriano coming to Penn State had any affect on Lee going to Iowa.
There's something a little desperate about this. I get that they are the first champs for RU but geez. And carrying to trophies too? To each his own, I guess.
The notion that Cael gave less than highest priority to Spencer Lee, is bizarre.Possibly, but I think it would have upped Cael's resolve to get him, inclusive of the flexibility to offer more of the 9.9, maybe start vs redshirt circumstances, etc.... Losing Lee without a Suriano in the fold is a more complicated equation as Lee did not see or turn down an offer under those unique circumstances.
On balance I tend to agree. No Suriano and our chances at Lee would have been greater to the point we would have been successful.
Possibly, but I think it would have upped Cael's resolve to get him, inclusive of the flexibility to offer more of the 9.9, maybe start vs redshirt circumstances, etc.... Losing Lee without a Suriano in the fold is a more complicated equation as Lee did not see or turn down an offer under those unique circumstances.
On balance I tend to agree. No Suriano and our chances at Lee would have been greater to the point we would have been successful.
Hey, let's leave Jersey Shore out of this. At least one great thing came out of there - Mrspawrestlers. Jersey Shore, PA, that is.
Haha, agreed. Forgot about Jersey Shore, PA.Hey, let's leave Jersey Shore out of this. At least one great thing came out of there - Mrspawrestlers. Jersey Shore, PA, that is.
Hunter S Thompson took a job as a sportswriter in Jersey Shore, mistakenly thinking he was going to be near the beach. He had unkind words for it.Hey, let's leave Jersey Shore out of this. At least one great thing came out of there - Mrspawrestlers. Jersey Shore, PA, that is.
Hopefully, the unkind words were about himself. I mean, it isn't Jersey Shore's fault, if a guy can't pick up a map, and doesn't realize that PA is land-locked to begin with. Then again, maybe he visited Intercourse, PA, nothing happened, and he's mad at them, too.Hunter S Thompson took a job as a sportswriter in Jersey Shore, mistakenly thinking he was going to be near the beach. He had unkind words for it.