Recruiting other team's commits

[CropDuster507]

With the death of NLI, I'd be asking athletes to sign an agreement that says you ain't visiting or floating your market value after. Can these "scholarship agreements" range in length? If I got a Bassett/Forest/Blaze/Vega type signed, I'd make sure it's ironclad or that the new school could buy it out.

I totally understand athletes getting more power, but this shit is absurd. "Commitment" means nothing beyond a twitter graphic. Additionally, once that kid is signed... You absolutely gotta pay it all out over the length of the contract. You want someone else? Pay them both.

We're gonna have 16/17 year olds signing contracts worth more than I've made in 10 years. You sign to a school/team and not to a coach.

See ya never, academic-based athletics.

 

[FatWoodchuck]

With the death of NLI, I'd be asking athletes to sign an agreement that says you ain't visiting or floating your market value after. Can these "scholarship agreements" range in length? If I got a Bassett/Forest/Blaze/Vega type signed, I'd make sure it's ironclad or that the new school could buy it out.

I totally understand athletes getting more power, but this shit is absurd. "Commitment" means nothing beyond a twitter graphic. Additionally, once that kid is signed... You absolutely gotta pay it all out over the length of the contract. You want someone else? Pay them both.

We're gonna have 16/17 year olds signing contracts worth more than I've made in 10 years. You sign to a school/team and not to a coach.

See ya never, academic-based athletics.

This all goes down to, how greedy are we.

That's a statement and a question. Answer yourself the question and you'll get your answer.

 

[Callthestall]

The NIL situation is some of the reason for the late offers. A program gets more funds than they had earlier in recruitment and it's like a shopping spree for the coaches if a kid hasn't locked up NIL money .
The NIL is flawed and is getting worse for the overall picture of college sports. Read an article that Ohio State NIL provided 20+ million for current football team.
A potential correction for the situation is, make NIL money tied to a non compete clause for one year . College sports is big business and should be treated like one. It doesn't stop a kid from transferring and wrestling. A grad student would reset his opportunity for NIL money.

 

[El-Jefe]

A potential correction for the situation is, make NIL money tied to a non compete clause for one year . College sports is big business and should be treated like one. It doesn't stop a kid from transferring and wrestling. A grad student would reset his opportunity for NIL money.

A non-compete like that is only as good as a school's willingness to enforce it in court.

For football and basketball, maybe. For wrestling, not a chance, too little return on the attorney costs.

And if the kid declines or refunds the original school's money, then what standing does the school have?

After all of that, the schools would still have to win the cases. That's hardly a given.

 

[PSU Mike]

How bad do we think Blaze beats Vega? Blaze is looking for his first Ironman title I think.
I heard tonight Sunny side and Gilroy are going to Ironman. Bassett vs Zepeda IV. Blaze vs Vega???

Are there any younger, smaller Pinto brothers? We need another Pinto/Vega matchup after 50 years.

 

[Foreverinbluejeans57]

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DT conceding Blaze?!

 

[WEAREPSU_LI]

DT conceding Blaze?!

Probably.

 

[Callthestall]

A non-compete like that is only as good as a school's willingness to enforce it in court.

For football and basketball, maybe. For wrestling, not a chance, too little return on the attorney costs.

And if the kid declines or refunds the original school's money, then what standing does the school have?

After all of that, the schools would still have to win the cases. That's hardly a given.

All I know, something has to be initiated to stop the separation of the haves and have nots.
The NCAA shut down SMU years ago for what is the norm now .
A smaller size program hits a couple of home runs on recruits in basketball or wrestling and doesn't get to see the long term results. It truly is not what is fair to the coach, the fan base or the overall dynamic of College Sports.
I'm not nieve to think this situation just started. Outside of the Academies and maybe Ivy League Schools this situation has been around for years. Now it involves a couple of more zeros on the end of base number for the"student" athlete.🤨

 

[El-Jefe]

DT conceding Blaze?!

Maybe, but if you're Taylor, why not go after both? Vega is already at 138, so maybe he could go 149. Or maybe he thinks Blaze could stay at 133. OKST could use long-term help at 2 of the 3 weights (with RSFR Cael Hughes being at the other of 141 or 149).

 

[Nitlion1986]

Maybe, but if you're Taylor, why not go after both? Vega is already at 138, so maybe he could go 149. Or maybe he thinks Blaze could stay at 133. OKST could use long-term help at 2 of the 3 weights (with RSFR Cael Hughes being at the other of 141 or 149).

Heck, Blaze is only a year removed from being recruited to be Okie State's 125 pounder. So 133 should be easy as pie in Stillwater.

 

[HOCKEYGOD11]

DT conceding Blaze?!

That was my first thought.

 

[BrockBronson]

I heard an ungodly amount, but what is everyone hearing Vega is getting per year.
Cornell was giving him an Ivy League degree but DT is giving him some serious $$$

 

[Pennstate1985]

I heard an ungodly amount, but what is everyone hearing Vega is getting per year.
Cornell was giving him an Ivy League degree but DT is giving him some serious $$$

I always take NIL amount whispers with a serious grain of salt.

 

[Pitchfork Rebel]

Maybe, but if you're Taylor, why not go after both? Vega is already at 138, so maybe he could go 149. Or maybe he thinks Blaze could stay at 133. OKST could use long-term help at 2 of the 3 weights (with RSFR Cael Hughes being at the other of 141 or 149).

Because:

“Over the last 15 years, Penn State has shown that if you want to be a national champion, you come to Penn State.”

-David Taylor

Former Penn State Wrestler David Taylor Thriving Professionally After Dominant Penn State Career

Taylor was a two-time national champion and two-time Hodge Trophy winner with the Nittany Lions.

onwardstate.com

 

[matter7172]

Because:

“Over the last 15 years, Penn State has shown that if you want to be a national champion, you come to Penn State.”

-David Taylor

Former Penn State Wrestler David Taylor Thriving Professionally After Dominant Penn State Career

Taylor was a two-time national champion and two-time Hodge Trophy winner with the Nittany Lions.

onwardstate.com

Can he add "if you want to be a runner up, come to OSU"?

 

[mcpat]

Can he add "if you want to be a runner up, come to OSU"?

Not yet. Maybe in a couple years.

 

[Pitchfork Rebel]

Mullen quit football and has been focusing on wrestling only since last season ended

Looks like:

1.) Mullen named early season starter:

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2.) Pinned Catka early in second period at the Mountaineer Invitational.

https://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/62425/catka-hunter/profile

Guessing he's now got a good claim on the starting position. With both having the concurrent story line of quitting football to concentrate on wrestling, would be interesting if Mullen and Keuter find themselves on the same mat at the same time in March.

 

[bwfight]

In fairness, that was Slumlord Bob. Ultimately Brands is responsible, but we have no idea if Nicolls coordinated or went loose cannon. Either is plausible.

Especially since Brands never called Aaron Brooks.

That’s Bobby Telford’s job. You have to be able to delegate when you run a major college wrestling program. You can’t waste your time recruiting generational talent.

 

[Pitchfork Rebel]

That’s Bobby Telford’s job. You have to be able to delegate when you run a major college wrestling program. You can’t waste your time recruiting generational talent.

Are you sure that Aaron didn't make it known he wasn't going run like a maniac to do dangerous box jumps or get fitted for a shoulder brace?