Refs Strike Again at Michigan
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Nothing you've claimed has been supported as you know
Once the Big Ten releases a statement saying the call was wrong you let me know--that will never happen
Correct--they said--never admitted an error nor would they ever
“Effective immediately, the Big Ten has been approved by the NCAA to implement a modified officiating mechanic that will allow the conference to change the manner in which it officiates onside kicks by positioning the Line Judge and Head Line-Judge on the kicking team’s restraining line, thereby putting multiple officials in the best position to consistently make the correct judgment"
They have spoken. You are the only retard that cannot understand what they said.
Right the quote--that's all they said--which isn't close to what you've falsely claimed
It's okay--I know accepting the Big Ten wouldn't admit a mistake even if there was one is tough for you
Amazing. You might want to accept the fact that major college football is very physical and moves very fast. There will always be human error. Every team has calls, rightly or wrongly, go against them and for them. I have seen calls both help Ohio State win a NC and probably cost them at least one. That is life and that is football. Try to enjoy the game.
No, he's claiming that Fleck is lying in regards to his conversation with Bill Carullo, the B1G Coordinator of Officiating. And no, I'm not kidding - this is really dumbasses explanation for PJ Fleck's public statements on the matter (which came before the B1G Statement so were pure omniscience in terms of predicting the B1G would announce changes to ensure the correct application of the Rule in the future). LMFAO - you couldn't make this $hit up if you tried! That's Gold Jerry! Gold!
Sure--there will always be human error--I'm not the one claiming the Big Ten is rigging things for Ohio State and Michigan.
It's the others that somehow thing the Big Ten issued a statement today saying they were wrong
Never said lied--I said we don't know what was said or the words used. It could have easily been "it was too tight to say" and he turned "say into flag"--people often here what they want. Fleck saying something doesn't make it a fact or a statement by the Big Ten
He will continue with impunity because his buddy is the moderator.
Yes, I have immunity and dictate everything
Maybe the mods just like I say the things they wish they could...
How about his latest..... :
I never said PJ Fleck is a liar, but just because PJ Fleck PUBLICLY STATED that the league's Coordinator of Officiating told him the flag was incorrectly thrown (and steps were being taken to ensure the Rule is correctly called in the future) doesn't mean it's true.....
Huh??? Wha?!?!?! I thought you didn't call him a liar??? I'm utterly confused with this tool's use of the English Language as per usual.
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Of course you won't spend time looking for a fact that proves you are wrong. I offered up a deal, you won't take it. I have the link bookmarked, ready to go. It is a fact jack even giving the point in the game when the call occured. Admit that you are wrong and we can all move along.
Not wrong as you continue proving with this nonsense
Who would say they're wrong when they have nothing that shows they're wrong?
I shared the only statement released--you apparently found a second one which is a lie--you wouldn't need to bookmark it because if it was true it would be a simple google search.
I love "i offered you a deal"--I'm not the one mad here
As you always do, you're conflating issues. You've attached the "Big Ten is rigging things for OSU and Mich" line to whether or not this particular call was the correct call.
Since you are so adamant that there isn't any rigging going on, you feel the need to poo-poo every claim that you think could somehow give that claim of rigging credence.
That's why you can't give in and admit that the video evidence clearly doesn't support a finding of offsides ... you see the video ... you see the stills ... you read and hear everyone that watched the video saying that wasn't offsides ... and, yet, there you are ... saying, "that's offsides."
Because you think admitting it wasn't offsides means you're conceding there's a pro-Michigan conspiracy. And you can't have that. You essentially turn yourself into Shaggy in the "Wasn't Me" song.
And then it gets worse, because we then have the conference stepping in and, in an unprecedented manner, letting everyone know that they admit the call was messed up.
So now you have to concoct yet another nonsensical position ... that if the league didn't utter the words "the call was wrong," they're not admitting the call was wrong.
You feel like you're trapped, and this is the only thing you can do ...
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But here's the thing ... you could, instead, just admit what the video and the subsequent words and actions of interested parties clearly tell you ... and that would be that the call was wrong.
And you can also still claim that OSU and UM are not the beneficiaries of some officiating plot.
It can happen. The two things aren't tied together. You CAN be reasonable. But you chose to be an unbearably obstinate troll, instead.
As I've said, this isn't the first time this kind of thing has happened. You have this bigger picture issue and you have a stance on it. Then subsequent information and/or actions come to light, and you simply can't look at them objectively, because now you feel like everything related to that bigger picture issue needs to be exactly one way, or you lose with regard to your bigger picture stance. For example, if you announced that dogs are the nicest creatures on the planet ... rather than deal with information about dogs being not so nice in certain situations like a normal human and just say "yeah, but they're still, overall, the nicest creatures," you'd feel compelled to fight with that person giving those anecdotes, and claim that the dog wasn't mean in that situation. There's just absolutely no rationality in your thought patterns.
You go full Shaggy ... and you just do it over and over again, hoping you'll wear everyone out, and if everyone stops correcting you, you think that means you won.
You haven't.
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The call was not correct. All experts have weighed in and said it was not correct to throw the flag. Again Mike Peria the rules expert said he was not offsides. That means the call made on the field was incorrect.
Not sure what you are trying to argue. How do you even know the call was correct? Were you on the field watching and have some kind of video that shows the Minny player offsides. You know more than Mike Peria? You keep saying the call is correct. Yet no evidence or facts. You have nothing and know it but you are in so deep you have to keep your weak stance. I will go forever on this with you. The call is incorrect. I can say that forever on this thread and will.
Not sure what you are trying to argue. How do you even know the call was correct? Were you on the field watching and have some kind of video that shows the Minny player offsides. You know more than Mike Peria? You keep saying the call is correct. Yet no evidence or facts. You have nothing and know it but you are in so deep you have to keep your weak stance. I will go forever on this with you. The call is incorrect. I can say that forever on this thread and will.
But it wasn't a penalty as expert after expert has stated - FOX announcer, and a very respected former HC, Chris Petersen flat-out stated that the call was "made up" by the Official taking a final possession away from Washington and ending the game (Washington was down by 3 points with 1:37 left on clock and no timeouts - but Washington had scored the last 21 points in the game and had just recovered, and returned, the onside kick to the scUM 48 yard line with 1:37...... that is until the Official decided to end the game with his joke call - which was thrown very late, well after the ball was kicked, and didn't come out until it was clear that there was a strong possibility it would be Washington's ball).
I'm the only one dealing with facts
The Big Ten never said the call was incorrect
Fleck is the only one to say it was too tight to flag. That's not in the statement
What fact did I ignore?
The fact that the b1g conference cited the minn/mich game as the reason for the protocol change. Highlighting the minute/second in the game which caused them to recognize a mistake was made.
You're dodging the facts. No, the BiG didn't come out and say it was a bad call. They wouldn't shoot themselves in the foot like that. But why would the BiG change the way it officiates such things if they thought officials clearly made the correct call using the current approach?
Fleck said “The [Big Ten Coordinator of Officials] informed us the play was too tight to flag. “We credit the Big Ten Conference for recognizing the need to make this change to ensure accurate calls in the future.” I suppose you think Fleck lied.
“I’m sick to my stomach right now,” FOX Sports analyst Chris Petersen, a former head coach at Boise State and Washington, said postgame. “I just hate to see this when the officials are making something up. Like I don’t know why they would throw that flag. To me, these are always close calls, that ball’s kicked…what are we doing, let the kids play."
FOX rules analyst Mike Pereira said as replays were shown on the TV broadcast “If you take a look at the high shot, the all-22 (players view), I don’t think he is breaking the plane.
So no Lando, it wasn't clearly the correct call.
[Hook]
Lando Commando, he's as cool as Coolio
Lando Commando, you might think he’s a foolio
Lando Commando, he's as cool as Coolio
Lando Commando, everybody says he's dumb, but no!
[Verse]
Lando Commando is really cool
Gettin’ that dough while leaving school
Gettin' all the hoes 'cause he ain't a fool
Watchin' some shows 'cause he is so cool
Lando Commando:
Remember the name, playin' the banjo who's to blame?
Ridin’ a rhino, decidin’ to borrow
A crossbow with some ammo
On a fv(king cargo
[Hook]
Lando Commando, he's as cool as Coolio
Lando Commando, you might think he’s a foolio
Lando Commando, he's as cool as Coolio
Lando Commando, everybody says he's dumb, but no!
They wouldn't have to change it if it was a bad call. They would just train the officials better
Pereira uses the word think
Petersen admits it was close
More than you
I know far more of what is happening with the program than most here
It's why I rarely comment on recruiting.
How do you think that is stupid?
How often is a rule changed due to a missed call? They correct the error jot the rule
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