all these portal players. including the ones we got. I know they have a right to do lt, but I just can't get use to it.
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The portal is the best thing to happen to College Football in decades. Think about it. Coaches can find immediate help to plug weaknesses at certain positions. No waiting for 3+ years hoping for a high school player to develop. No more rebuilding years. Today’s game is about quickly reloading.
Can you imagine if Penn State was solely dependent on developing in-house WRs? It would severely limit what an offense coordinator (Kotelnicki) could do in terms of becoming an explosive offense.
Can you imagine if Penn State was solely dependent on developing in-house WRs? It would severely limit what an offense coordinator (Kotelnicki) could do in terms of becoming an explosive offense.
That’s only if you don’t value all the things that used to make college football the best version of football. As it stands now college football is a lower skill knock off of the NFL but without the NFL’s rules that safeguard competitiveness. It’s why college playoff broadcasts get dwarfed by regular season NFL games. College football has peaked while the NFL gets ever more popular
On the contrary, College Football ratings have increased. It is more popular now than ever.
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They need to stop making the players be college students, which in turn will make the universities stop giving out fake degrees. Of course, let the guys still be college students if they want, with being held to the same standards as everyone else and with no football consequences if they fail academically.
Needs to exist with greater restriction/oversight.— Can become a legit measured benefit, but currently is a general destabilizing force to college football…..benefitting a few “ money bag” schools. The vast majority of of the “134” , are virtually “non players” in this destabilizing Wild, Wild West version
Only if you:
- Enjoy unproven 18 yr old kids making $millions
- Don't care about education in college sports
- Believe teams with the most big donors should win
- Prioritize the individual over team/commitment
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Even before NIL there were a few elite programs, a lot of so-so programs, and some tomato-cans needing a big payday to stay afloat. What’s different is, the money is out in the open. So what if it’s the Wild West? The politicians would only want a cut for themselves, without solving anything. Hey, let the free market sort it out…
Education in college football was already a farce in too many cases. It's time to end the farce.
And all athletes are paid on speculation. The Mets just paid Juan Soto all that money because of what they hope he will do. They didn't pay him as a reward for his "proven" past achievements. The only difference is that in the pros, the success rate is probably higher.
The NFL is the most popular US sport, period. 32 teams is easier to follow than 135. Fantasy and betting draw in huge non-typical fans. NFL fans watch most all NFL football. A lot of college fans follow their team and very little else.
Network broadcast always beats cable. Very few college matchups can get NFL ratings unopposed, much less win in direct competition.
I think there are still tweaks to the system needed, but college football is great. This is the latest in December we've been relevant to the title conversation since '94.
Unproven 18 year olds get drafted yearly in the NHL and MLB making millions based on potential. Why is this different? Unproven doesn't mean unworthy.
Who says the kids that want an education aren't getting one? Who says that back in the day every athlete was truly there for an education? Hint they weren't.
This doesn't make sense. Current college football is more inclusive not less. But there's always been levels. Always.
Team/commitment? That largely benefits coaches and hurts the player. Why is that better?
I wish NIL was different but kids should have been paid for the past 50+ years
Soto will be bound to the Mets for 15 years. He won't be able to switch teams every year.
Take the colleges out of college football and you have instant failure. It's why the USFL and every other B league fails and no one goes to see the games. College football is about the pride of being affiliated with the University. Once that ends, so does the game.
I prefer this system to the one where college players were routinely cut without any compensation the minute they were no longer of use to a coach. The previous compensation model was a farce that screwed players over. Now they have an opportunity to earn some money and further their craft instead of being relegated to backup oblivion, and colleges get the benefit of bringing in players that can help. Sorry, but I view it as a win-win for everyone except the plantation accountants.
As far as loyalty and pride in a school, those have become dirty words in society in general. I view it as a separate problem far removed from football fandom.
As an aside, Paterno would have cleaned up in this environment. He was a master fundraiser who believed players should be paid. But he could also sell so much more than just that. He's the one who managed to keep Larry Johnson onboard with a measley $250K per year. He'd also get back his 25 schollies per year that went away in the late 80s, early 90s, and now be able to fill in any holes in the portal. There, I said it.
As far as loyalty and pride in a school, those have become dirty words in society in general. I view it as a separate problem far removed from football fandom.
As an aside, Paterno would have cleaned up in this environment. He was a master fundraiser who believed players should be paid. But he could also sell so much more than just that. He's the one who managed to keep Larry Johnson onboard with a measley $250K per year. He'd also get back his 25 schollies per year that went away in the late 80s, early 90s, and now be able to fill in any holes in the portal. There, I said it.
Keep in mind that even in the old days, some teams came to bowls to play and some to party...and you couldn't always be certain what you were going to get.
Today with the factor of opt-outs and portals, it's like a whole new game.
That said, based on a couple bowls I've watched, a lot of the guys were clearly there to play and wanted very much to win. Pitt-Toledo was a nothingburger bowl but both teams left it all on the field and when Toledo finally squeaked it out after 6 overtimes, you'd have thought they'd won the Super Bowl.
I saw the same thing with the Navy team yesterday. And though Texas A&M-USC ended long past my bedtime, reading the comments and watching the tape of reactions of some Trojan players...plus the statements of their coach afterward...left no doubt it was a meaningful win to them and a way to end a downer of a season on a very up note.
Anyway, it was kind of heartening to see that and it has led me to rethink my views a bit on the worthlessness of these many non-playoff games. Basically it's a question of who comes to play. I mean, you can measure wins and losses and stats...but you can't measure what's in a guy's heart.
Did you read your own article? Increase was year over year and best ratings in 15 years. It is not more popular than ever. Our 87 Fiesta Bowl played on a Friday night had comparable ratings to the NFL games played that weekend. Our first ever college playoff game last week got dwarfed by the NFL regular season games that weekend. I believe it was about 1/5 the audience.On the contrary, College Football ratings have increased. It is more popular now than ever.
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College football is doing great as you and everyone else knows despite how they feel about things
How do you propose ending the "farce"? Separate the teams from the colleges? What are you referring to as a farce anyway? Players not going to class/getting degrees? Majors that you don't approve of?
I didn’t say they weren’t doing well. I said they peaked which is true. They are on the MLB track becoming a niche sport while the NFL has taken over and continues to grow. The NFL just got a comparable network broadcast rating while streaming on Netflix for goodness sake. If college football was so popular it would not matter where it was broadcast. Once again you don’t know what you’re talking about and arguing yourself into a corner.
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They aren't on the MLB track. See the other 2 playoff games. There's a huge gap between NFL and everything else.
At no point in history is Penn State blowing out SMU on TNT going to compete with 2 of the top 4 teams in the AFC even before you factor in every Swift fan watching.
Both college games were bad. Put Bama in instead of Penn State and those numbers are better.
Why are you comparing one of the first ever 1 vs 2 matchups that the old bowl system didn't screw up IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP vs a first round playoff game?
At least use last year's title game numbers, or 2022s, etc for a comparison.
I am making the point that college football has peaked. Yes it was a National Championship game but it was played on a Friday night, the worst prime time night for television. And this year’s playoff was the first ever appearance for Penn State, one of the traditionally best programs for TV ratings.. All the college playoff games are being dwarfed by regular season NFL games.
In hindsight that Fiesta Bowl was likely the high point for college football.
That Fiesta Bowl set viewing records at the time...and to this day ranks highly in that department.
For example, I think the most watched college football game ever in terms of sheer numbers of viewers was the 2006 Texas-USC national championship with over 35 million. Yet the television rating was, like, 21.
Penn State-Miami drew fewer viewers but had a higher television rating: 25 and change.
Whether that game was the high point for college football is debatable -- I think not -- yet it was certainly the high point for the era of the legendary Joe Paterno at Penn State.
I compare it to the final drive of the Lombardi Packers, which won the 1967 Ice Bowl against Dallas on the last play of the game in sub-zero temperatures: the culmination of everything the great coach had preached and stood for during his 9 years in Green Bay.
Similarly, the game versus favored Miami on that Arizona night in 1987...against the Hurricanes who were everything Joe stood against...winning on the strength of brilliant D with a limited QB whose main skill was leadership, which was everything that Joe stood for.
It's a night...and a game...I'll never forget.
Back in 1987 most Americans had a handful of options to watch on TV
TV ratings will never be the same in 2024 with all the options out there--it's why the NFL fights to be on Xmas and go up against college football
Back in 1987, many games weren't on TV at all--the majority of games weren't. Now, almost every game played by any team can be watched on cable or a streaming network
The game is peaking NOW when you actual consider how many people are still watching these scrimmages despite the portal.
TV ratings will never be the same in 2024 with all the options out there--it's why the NFL fights to be on Xmas and go up against college football
Back in 1987, many games weren't on TV at all--the majority of games weren't. Now, almost every game played by any team can be watched on cable or a streaming network
The game is peaking NOW when you actual consider how many people are still watching these scrimmages despite the portal.
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Most PSU football players weren't majoring in rocket surgery back in the day.
The 1987 Fiesta Bowl was viewed by 21.9 million homes.
Last year's championship game drew 25.1 million homes.
Last year's semifinals drew 23.3 million homes, on average.
What things have we lost that used to make college football the best version of football? Use your words.
You used to cheer on those 18 year old kids for your entertainment. And you don't want them to be paid? That's your story? And your enjoyment is somehow tied directly to how little someone is paid to entertain you?
I haven't seen a lot of posts from you talking about the majors and the grades of the kids on the PSU squad.
Which has always been the case.
Freedom sucks, huh? It used to be so much better when the fates of young men were decided by grown men paid millions to be used car salesmen, and once they swindled them to come to school, they had those young men by the short and curlies and could make them do whatever, and the kids had little to no recourse. That's what made college football great, no doubt.
Comparing to NFL at the time, dummy. Like comparing the Babe and Lou to their peers, not Ohtwni. You’re just not smart enough to carry a conversation.
LOL--college football isn't judged based on the success of others--it's based on it's own success
We don't compare Babe or Bonds to Elway and Mahomes
YOU ARE SO STUPID! The point is college football has peaked. The proof is popularity as measured by TV ratings used to be much higher and on par with the NFL. Now they are a fraction of the NFL. Now beat it, Shorty. You’re annoying me.
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You're the one no one is agreeing with
You don't comprehend TV ratings if you're not understanding what has changed since 87
The NFL isn't a competitor for college football...they rarely play on the same date/time. See the TV contract--you'll still be confused as per always
I wish I could talk slower so maybe you could understand. In the first half of the 20th century College football was more popular than pro football. Then it slowly became equally as popular as pro football. Now it is not even in the team picture. And they absolutely are playing at the same time. And even if they don’t the ratings prove the college game’s loss of popularity. Dummy.
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