You restated the question to yourself. Oy.
Hopefully you aren't out here representing a Comm degree. That would be more embarrassing than this already is for you.
NCAA needs to change NFL draft status.
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Hopefully you aren't out here representing a Comm degree. That would be more embarrassing than this already is for you.
Apparently, demlion thinks it's "uh, counting." Poor guy. You keep sounding out those words. It's OK. You tried and failed. You'll get 'em next time.
I restated it for you. See if you can count how many stupid remarks you have made in this thread. You might need both hands. Don't lose track, now...
No, you responded to your own question with "Apparently NOT Reading, or Communications. Huh." You may need to go back to school and major in Communications if you can't figure that out ... after being told twice now.
Then you went boiled bunny by restating the question, as if I was ignoring you or your question, and it had only been less than an hour. Psycho.
And you still can't figure out that pointing out that it was a degree in Comm is not something to state as if it's an impressive accomplishment. It's fine. It's what a lot of athletes do ... major in these less-challenging areas, sometimes ones that are related to sports (you know, maybe if you want to do something in the media related to sports after graduation, you take Comm ... or athletes will sometimes take Parks and Rec to similarly do something in the "athletic" space after graduation). It was just funny that you included that detail in the manner you did.
He got a four year degree in three straight years of study. You have NO idea what his interest in that degree was, or why he did it, nor any idea what he will do for work once his CFB career is over.
He didn't...he went to summers classes...its the equivalent of 4 years.
This is why Franklin and others expect graduation in 3 years for most.
They're on campus all year round.
He got an 8 semester degree, in a non-rigorous major (it was actually Public Relations, not Communications), in what was likely 9-10 semesters (I don't remember if he was an early enrollee). I don't care why he did it or what he will do, with respect to this discussion.
Congrats to him on getting a degree ... some guys don't even accomplish that ... it's just not evidence of anything exciting academically. And I don't even blame the kids ... they're working a full-time job (and then some) and still have to go to school. It is what it is.
Oh, and his chosen field of study for his Master's at Mizzou is ... seriously ... "Coaching and Athletic Leadership." It's the hamster wheel these guys get put on, for the most part.
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There was a guy from Sharon Pa that never went college but played NFL for several years as a receiver. Had great speed but ‘wasn’t college material’.
He worked at a gas station for a couple years and when introduced he said he went to ‘the University of Texaco’.
Can’t remember his name but is the only one I remember that never went to college.
You have no idea they have dreamed of playing for Penn State. Pulled that one out of your butt. They dreamed of making money in the NFL. Again if an elite guy wants to go and gets drafted because an NFL team wants him then go. Whatever on the development league. They should have one in my opinion.
Huh? I listed Penn State as a team that someone may have dreamed of playing for--you don't think kids watching Barkley for us wanted to be him?
They dream of a lot of things. The NFL doesn't want them which is why they have the 3 years out of college rule
Why should they have a developmental league? So no one watches it? How are you forming 32 teams in a developmental league? College is the best path for players even with a D-league
They simply can give an option for the elite guys to hop to the NFL from high school. That is what I have been saying. They can go to college but this gives them an option. The NFL does not have to draft them.
On the development league, there could be enough demand. You could also have older guys play in it who finished their college eligibility. Don't need 32 teams.
You do need 32 teams...it needs to be competitive and have depth.
The NFL has made it clear they won't do that. The NCAA doesn't want to do that. There would be zero demand for a developmental league. Kids can make more in college and college is going to be better for development. You aren't making sense. You just don't like what college football is (always has been but you think it's different now)
Now you can give super elite kids an NFL option. The ones that don't want to go to college. The difference now is you don't need to spend money on NIL if they go directly to the NFL.
You keep saying this but who wants this?
Many kids, non-elite kids, don't want to go to college
Why wouldn't college want to spend NIL money on top kids? I don't understand what you think this fixes (or what needs to be fixed)
The NFL doesn't want 18 years old. Colleges wants this kids. The kids are making great money in college. Who's losing here?
Let me put it to you this way.
1) We are not talking about non elite players going to the NFL straight from high school.
2) We are talking about the top 100 to give a nice round number.
So what I'm saying is you can give those kids an option to jump to the NFL. I am not asking for your approval on this idea. You operate in such world of absolute extremities that ideas to you become some sort of black and white answer like 2 plus 2 equals 4.
You're hell bent on pissing all over the idea and convinced no one to do that. You don't know that (back to your everything is 2 plus 2 =4 ) but the sad thing is you think you do. That is called a know it all and it is not a compliment. I worked for a company and one of the leadership skills you were evaluated on was dealing with ambiguity. You would be a colossal failure on this measure.
Why would they not want to do it? Kobe Bryant and Lebron James and Kevin Garnett skipped college. There are some kids that may not want to go to college and go directly to the NFL.
What does this fix? Well for one it removes a non academically oriented kid from having to masquerade as a student for no reason and suck up resources that could going to a kid who wants to be there.
Again, if they want to attend college then great. They may not get drafted, then go to college. If they feel and their family feel they are physically ready and the drafting team thinks they are ready then why limit them?
This is another option.
And if it means a school can spend a little less on NIL or reinvest that NIL money into another area of the athletic department that could actually help a non football student athlete then that is a good thing.
So I wouldn't expect this to be a lot of kids but you could have a few. Jeremaiah Smith could have been in the NFL this year. Maybe he wanted to attend OSU and maybe he is very academically oriented. I don't know. All I am saying is he would have an option to go directly to the NFL.
Stopped reading after the top 100...this might be the most illogical idea I've ever seen and it will never happen. Ever.
You think 100 kids (give or take) should skip college to enter the NFL draft--it's literally the dumbest concept (considering the NFL nor the NCAA wants it) and we have Kaspy on this board. There aren't even words to explain just how clueless this idea is
But thankfully we all know--even you--that it will never happen--because it so freaking stupid it doesn't even make sense.
Thank you. Now I know it is a good idea.
And yet again you prove you can't comprehend.
Lol it's funny you think I'm the problem here. You want the NFL to finance a league with veterans that aren't good enough and approximately 100 HS aged kids each year. Who is watching this? Why this being financed? How many good teams can they created? Have you watched the USFL? Who does this benefit? Anyone?
This is all because you think college players should all deeply care about school...something that has never existed...and because once every 25 years a kid like Jeremiah Smith come along.
It makes no sense. Tell me why the NFL would ever do this? You can't because you know they won't.
Good idea have to be based in reality. Not wishful think that some "pure" league can exist for kids that are brilliant.
The top 100 lmao
You are correct, there would only be 5-6 kids who could get drafted out of HS. I used to work with a former #1 HS recruit and 1st round draft pick. When coaches would come to the HS games I was the AD in charge of escorting all of them to the special seating, getting food, meeting the recruit, etc. I remember talking to Dabo and his DL coach about our guy and comparing him to Christian Wilkins and they told me that both our kid and Wilkins would have been drafted out of HS if allowed to go. He would not have been a 1st round pick but probably 4-6th. I asked other coaches similar questions, Saban said the same, so did Jimbo. The kids they were referring to were generally DL/DB/WR types who were already physically strong/fast enough, but no NFL team would draft them before the 3rd or 4th round. Travis Hunter would have been drafted out of HS, same with SMith and the WR from Bama
This is great info and confirms what I was thinking. If a kid wants to do it, his parents want to do it and be a 3rd rounder or 4th rounder then let him. That is all I am saying.
Did you ever meet Franklin? Joe? Jay? O'Brien? What coaches that you met were cool and which ones were horse's rear ends? Any inside scoop you can provide? Asking for a friend. Thank you.
I met Franklin, he was ok, he really thought Bresee was coming to PSU and I dont think he worked hard enough with the rest of the family or maybe PSU just wasn't going to give the parents a weekend house for every home game and get his GF on the cheerleading team.
Saban, Kirby, Jimbo all good guys. Dabo and his staff were great guys, offered me tixs to games, Day was ehh, didnt really talk to us little people, he came with LJ who was the same, blah. He never came to a game but I was told by multiple people that Harbaugh was the weirdest guy.
Bryan Breese...Maryland DL...first round pick ot the Saints in 23. One of our biggest misses in the Franklin era.
Bryan Bresee, 1st round pick of the saints two years ago. At least one of the recruiting services had him as the number one recruit in the country, but he didn’t go to certain camps with rivals so they dropped him lower. Also, he was told to keep Michigan in Alabama and his top five by different recruiting services when you had no interest in going to either school.
So top recruits are told to keep ‘bama and skunk bears in their top five just to generate more interest ….as proof to how good they are?
Or is it that those two pay huge NIL and having them in the T5 means other schools will have to offer Mo Money!
No, when he was going through the recruiting process, he didn’t go to a couple rivals camps and they told him that they were gonna knock him out of the top five or 10 recruits, whatever it was. One of the other recruiting services then told him when he was set to announce his final three that they wanted him to keep Michigan and Alabama in it and if they did, they would keep him at the number one spot because that would generate more interest.
Is this type of behavior by the recruiting services just unethical, or is it actually illegal behavior?
If you are coercing people to lie about their intentions with the threat of a 'punishment' if they do not comply in order to promote the product that the sell.....
they know which fan groups pay for their material, got to keep the big $ rolling in
And to be fair, these recruiting services can help provide visibility for the players to demonstrate their skills beyond their tapes from Friday night.
And I can visualize the players going along with the recruiting services understanding that are a business too and they want to be appropriately compensated for their efforts. And they need those fan bases to stay engaged.
Back when I played, the big thing was if you could make it into Street and Smiths.
