Resumes Among Teams With Losses

[mcpat]

* reflects current AP rankings only

#2 Georgia
2 ranked wins (@ #5 Texas and vs #19 Clemson)
1 loss (@ #11 Alabama 41-34)

#3 Ohio St
1 ranked win (@ #6 PSU)
1 loss (@ #1 Oregon 31-30)

#5 Texas
1 ranked win (@ 24 Vandy)
1 loss (vs #2 Georgia 30-15)

#6 PSU
No ranked wins
1 loss (vs #3 Ohio St 20-13)

#7 Tenn
1 ranked win (vs #11 Alabama)
1 loss (vs unranked Arkansas 19-14)

#10 Notre Dame
1 ranked win (@ #15 Texas A&M)
1 Loss (vs unranked NIU 16-14)

#11 Alabama
1 ranked win (vs #2 Georgia)
2 losses (@ #24 Vandy 40-35; @ #7 Tenn 24-17)

#12 Boise St
No ranked wins
1 Loss (@ #1 Oregon 37-34)

#13 SMU
2 ranked wins (@ #25 Louisville; vs #23 Pitt)
1 loss (vs #9 BYU 18-15)

#14 LSU
1 ranked win (vs #16 Ole Miss)
2 losses (vs unranked USC 27-20; @ #15 Texas A&M 35-23)

PSU might not have as good a win as some others, but it doesn’t have as bad a loss either.

 

[AWS1022]

* reflects current AP rankings only

#2 Georgia
2 ranked wins (@ #5 Texas and vs #19 Clemson)
1 loss (@ #11 Alabama 41-34)

#3 Ohio St
1 ranked win (@ #6 PSU)
1 loss (@ #1 Oregon 31-30)

#5 Texas
1 ranked win (@ 24 Vandy)
1 loss (vs #2 Georgia 30-15)

#6 PSU
No ranked wins
1 loss (vs #3 Ohio St 20-13)

#7 Tenn
1 ranked win (vs #11 Alabama)
1 loss (vs unranked Arkansas 19-14)

#10 Notre Dame
1 ranked win (@ #15 Texas A&M)
1 Loss (vs unranked NIU 16-14)

#11 Alabama
1 ranked win (vs #2 Georgia)
2 losses (@ #24 Vandy 40-35; @ #7 Tenn 24-17)

#12 Boise St
No ranked wins
1 Loss (@ #1 Oregon 37-34)

#13 SMU
2 ranked wins (@ #25 Louisville; vs #23 Pitt)
1 loss (vs #9 BYU 18-15)

#14 LSU
1 ranked win (vs #16 Ole Miss)
2 losses (vs unranked USC 27-20; @ #15 Texas A&M 35-23)

PSU might not have as good a win as some others, but it doesn’t have as bad a loss either.

I thought rankings didn’t matter.

 

[84Lion]

Indiana has no wins over ranked teams either. Their OOC schedule is really weak.

Illinois was ranked at some point in the season - they were ranked when Penn State played them. Wasn't USC ranked at one point?

 

[LandoComando]

Penn State really needs Illinois and West Virginia to win out to help the resume
USC winning out would be helpful for other reasons

 

[LandoComando]

Indiana has no wins over ranked teams either. Their OOC schedule is really weak.

Illinois was ranked at some point in the season - they were ranked when Penn State played them. Wasn't USC ranked at one point?

They were but this is going to be like March Madness--where does a team finish the year. It won't matter that they were overrated early.

 

[Lion_Backer]

Indiana has no wins over ranked teams either. Their OOC schedule is really weak.

Illinois was ranked at some point in the season - they were ranked when Penn State played them. Wasn't USC ranked at one point?

I find it ironic that the only way that some of these 'good' opponents that we play will be respected nationally as a quality opponent is if they beat us.

 

[ram2020]

I find it ironic that the only way that some of these 'good' opponents that we play will be respected nationally as a quality opponent is if they beat us.

Hahahah, to your point, I read something today on X that Penn state is a government psyop to give OSU a ranked win every year.

 

[Ian]

Illinois was #19 when PSU beat them.

 

[LandoComando]

Illinois was #19 when PSU beat them.

Because they beat Kansas and Nebraska when people thought those two teams were good
They're now 2-6 and 5-4 so...
The Oregon game really exposed Illinois then losing at home to Minny hurt
They can win out an get back in the 20s though--hope they do

 

[mcpat]

I thought rankings didn’t matter.

It starts to matter this week now that we lost a game and our 1-loss resume is being compared to others teams with 1-2 losses as they release the 1st playoff rankings of the season. Obviously being top 11 in the playoff rankings matters.

 

[AWS1022]

It starts to matter this week now that we lost a game and our 1-loss resume is being compared to others teams with 1-2 losses as they release the 1st playoff rankings of the season. Obviously being top 11 in the playoff rankings matters.

From all this talk about who had better wins and worse losses, obviously the rankings mattered from the first week on and always have. The playoff committee certainly uses the rankings and if you don’t think they do, then you’re crazy.

 

[mcpat]

From all this talk about who had better wins and worse losses, obviously the rankings mattered from the first week on and always have. The playoff committee certainly uses the rankings and if you don’t think they do, then you’re crazy.

Apparently something I posted earlier this season was not well received. And I apologize. Whatever I wrote wasn’t meant to be a personal attack.

 

[AWS1022]

Apparently something I posted earlier this season was not well received. And I apologize. Whatever I wrote wasn’t meant to be a personal attack.

Wasn’t necessarily aimed at you….just all the posters who keep trying to convince people that early rankings don’t matter, when they obviously do and always have.

 

[bvillebaron]

* reflects current AP rankings only

#2 Georgia
2 ranked wins (@ #5 Texas and vs #19 Clemson)
1 loss (@ #11 Alabama 41-34)

#3 Ohio St
1 ranked win (@ #6 PSU)
1 loss (@ #1 Oregon 31-30)

#5 Texas
1 ranked win (@ 24 Vandy)
1 loss (vs #2 Georgia 30-15)

#6 PSU
No ranked wins
1 loss (vs #3 Ohio St 20-13)

#7 Tenn
1 ranked win (vs #11 Alabama)
1 loss (vs unranked Arkansas 19-14)

#10 Notre Dame
1 ranked win (@ #15 Texas A&M)
1 Loss (vs unranked NIU 16-14)

#11 Alabama
1 ranked win (vs #2 Georgia)
2 losses (@ #24 Vandy 40-35; @ #7 Tenn 24-17)

#12 Boise St
No ranked wins
1 Loss (@ #1 Oregon 37-34)

#13 SMU
2 ranked wins (@ #25 Louisville; vs #23 Pitt)
1 loss (vs #9 BYU 18-15)

#14 LSU
1 ranked win (vs #16 Ole Miss)
2 losses (vs unranked USC 27-20; @ #15 Texas A&M 35-23)

PSU might not have as good a win as some others, but it doesn’t have as bad a loss either.

Sagarin has their schedule at 32 which is better than a number of teams ranked higher FWIW.

 

[Obliviax]

* reflects current AP rankings only

#2 Georgia
2 ranked wins (@ #5 Texas and vs #19 Clemson)
1 loss (@ #11 Alabama 41-34)

#3 Ohio St
1 ranked win (@ #6 PSU)
1 loss (@ #1 Oregon 31-30)

#5 Texas
1 ranked win (@ 24 Vandy)
1 loss (vs #2 Georgia 30-15)

#6 PSU
No ranked wins
1 loss (vs #3 Ohio St 20-13)

#7 Tenn
1 ranked win (vs #11 Alabama)
1 loss (vs unranked Arkansas 19-14)

#10 Notre Dame
1 ranked win (@ #15 Texas A&M)
1 Loss (vs unranked NIU 16-14)

#11 Alabama
1 ranked win (vs #2 Georgia)
2 losses (@ #24 Vandy 40-35; @ #7 Tenn 24-17)

#12 Boise St
No ranked wins
1 Loss (@ #1 Oregon 37-34)

#13 SMU
2 ranked wins (@ #25 Louisville; vs #23 Pitt)
1 loss (vs #9 BYU 18-15)

#14 LSU
1 ranked win (vs #16 Ole Miss)
2 losses (vs unranked USC 27-20; @ #15 Texas A&M 35-23)

PSU might not have as good a win as some others, but it doesn’t have as bad a loss either.

Penn States cumulative SOR (Strength of Schedule Power Ranking) is the 6th highest in the nation. This is one of the metrics used by the selection committee. It looks at the W/L as well as the power ranking of the conferences and teams. Oregon is 2 with tOSU 5. Indiana is one notch below us at 7. Others of note is Pitt at 14 and ND at 15.

if you look at pure Stength of Schedule, PSU is ranked 28th. Sparty is 5th, UCLA 6th, NE, ILL, tOSU, UM, and Iowa are all higher than us in the B1G. USC and Washington are right behind us at 29 and 30.

If Indy beats tOSU, they deserve to jump us. But if Indy loses, as everyone expects, they'll fall far behind us.

College Football Power Index 2024​

 

[lazydave841]

Here's the anomaly of this type of thing.

Take SMU. They currently have 2 ranked wins, Louisville and Pitt. Where does anybody think those teams would finish in our conference? In the SEC?

 

[JWB389]

The thing I hate about using the measurement of beating ranked teams….how many of those teams would be ranked right now if they had beaten us? Certainly Illinois, maybe USC, maybe Wisconsin, maybe WVU? So, they’re not great teams, but all of the above are good opponents.

 

[rrdd2021]

Indiana has no wins over ranked teams either. Their OOC schedule is really weak.

Illinois was ranked at some point in the season - they were ranked when Penn State played them. Wasn't USC ranked at one point?

This and many people think they're automatically in with their only loss to OSU (if that happens), but the committee will be looking at SOS hard with the new 12-team Playoff and right now Indiana might be iffy if Oregon, PSU and OSU all win out. Indiana would be the 4th B1G team ----- would the rest of the country - and committee - be OK with this?

Right now, OSU is the only ranked team on Indiana's schedule

 

[BOSCO2]

Indiana has no wins over ranked teams either. Their OOC schedule is really weak.

Illinois was ranked at some point in the season - they were ranked when Penn State played them. Wasn't USC ranked at one point?

How come those 2 teams plus WVU don't count as ranked wins? They were ranked when we beat them. If they don't count, you can't count ranked wins until the season is over.

 

[LandoComando]

How come those 2 teams plus WVU don't count as ranked wins? They were ranked when we beat them. If they don't count, you can't count ranked wins until the season is over.

WVU was not ranked when we beat then

 

[mcpat]

How come those 2 teams plus WVU don't count as ranked wins? They were ranked when we beat them. If they don't count, you can't count ranked wins until the season is over.

Because 1-8 Florida State was once ranked 10th.

 

[ryoder1]

Are we ahead of TN when the rankings get released tonight?

 

[lazydave841]

Are we ahead of TN when the rankings get released tonight?

Good question and will show what they think of us early.

 

[LandoComando]

Are we ahead of TN when the rankings get released tonight?

I'd wager Tennessee will be but it doesn't really matter as long as we're 9th or higher. 9th or higher means even with another loss we're good. 10th or lower we'd need help if we lose.

 

[BOSCO2]

WVU was not ranked when we beat then

OK. My bad.

 

[LandoComando]

Are we ahead of TN when the rankings get released tonight?

Surprising we were--which is amazing news

 

[mcpat]

If TN wins out, they jump us in the rankings. Which is fine. If we win out… and Ohio St beats Indiana… we host a playoff game. At worst, #8; at best #6 seed-wise.