You mean he got caught with somebody playing with his deflated balls?
Robert Kraft charged with Soliciting Prostitution
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You mean he got caught with somebody playing with his deflated balls?
You mean except for the fact that the trafficker would kill them, they would seek out law enforcement, right? Or kill their kids or other family members?
I’m sure they appreciated it - they got laid for a few Deutschmarks/Euros and there was no post-coital demands. Not so sure the girls are uniformly happy.
Don't hold your breath. This is a rumor only Adam schefter is spreading. His source is a rumor from "somebody that lives down there". Journalism is truly dead.
Maybe he'll end up being right, but he sure isn't being corroborated anywhere.
Seems kind of unlikely since we would have heard about it at the same time. Also there is literally a photographed piece of paper with the other names on it
I just saw a news segment which showed the outside of this establishment. Seems like it's in a typical generic strip mall. I'd think a billionaire could arrange a meeting somewhere a bit more discrete. Maybe the human traffickers were unwilling to ship their women outside a tightly controlled environment.
So betting Goodell having some orgasms himself hearing about Kraft’s preDICKament.
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Wow. And they have it on video? And this is the 'tip of the iceberg'? I mean, he was dating this woman - why the hell does he need to solicit anything?
What do you think she is? In love with him? Its basically the same thing and a lot more expensive.
He would have been better served if he met someone that was age-appropriate.Wow. And they have it on video? And this is the 'tip of the iceberg'? I mean, he was dating this woman - why the hell does he need to solicit anything?
Q: What do Tom Brady and Bob Kraft have in common?
A: Both paid someone else to deflate their balls.
A: Both paid someone else to deflate their balls.
To fulfill his deepest fantasy, Mr. Kraft made her dress up like Tom Brady and call him the GOAT.
Here's the earth shattering revelation:
https://www.foxnews.com/us/wall-str...prostitution-sting-that-ensnared-robert-kraft
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I know, right? What a bunch of losers. These guys are billionaires and can't help themselves from going to a shady massage parlor in a strip mall by an Outback steakhouse
I don't think the high priced escort services sell underage girls- I hope these assholes get the weight of the world thrown at them.
Several high rollers.....
https://www.businessinsider.com/flo...of-private-equity-firm-jw-childs-associates-3
I guess Robert the John Kraft will just hire someone to represent him.
First-time offenders charged with solicitation are typically permitted to enroll in a diversion program and serve 100 hours of community service, a former prosecutor told the Associated Press.
Now Jessica Korda, pretty hot LPGA golfer, has her boyfriend caught in the trap. And he is without a sand wedge.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/go...tution-in-florida-sting/ar-BBTZcUf?li=BBnbfcL
https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=jessica+korda+images&qpvt=jessica+korda+images&FORM=IGRE
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/go...tution-in-florida-sting/ar-BBTZcUf?li=BBnbfcL
https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=jessica+korda+images&qpvt=jessica+korda+images&FORM=IGRE
I'm of the (Libertarian) view that we should be free to do what doesn't in some way hurt or threaten someone else. In this case we should be able to distinguish the John's and prostitutes from the human traffickers.
This is a lot like the government's war on drugs. They think throwing street addicts in jail will somehow eliminate the market for the drug cartels.
We're paying for this crap -- police time, prisons, inmates, and people wrecked for the rest of their lives by stigma. It's much more than just an invasion of privacy.
That said, in this case I have little sympathy for the Patriots and NFL should they become victims of this country's irrational, puritanical laws.
This is a lot like the government's war on drugs. They think throwing street addicts in jail will somehow eliminate the market for the drug cartels.
We're paying for this crap -- police time, prisons, inmates, and people wrecked for the rest of their lives by stigma. It's much more than just an invasion of privacy.
That said, in this case I have little sympathy for the Patriots and NFL should they become victims of this country's irrational, puritanical laws.
@KnightWhoSaysNit
In this case we should be able to distinguish the John's and prostitutes from the humantraffickers.
Um, what? I thought the people who were running this hand job salon were CHARGED WITH HUMAN TRAFFICKING?
'Zactly how does it work when human traffickers put those women in the hand job shop in the first place? Is it because you think they are there of their own free will?
Tell me, in the human trafficking cases charged here, who do you think the victims are?
Is this the quality of reasoning that makes one adopt the libertarian view?
In this case we should be able to distinguish the John's and prostitutes from the humantraffickers.
Um, what? I thought the people who were running this hand job salon were CHARGED WITH HUMAN TRAFFICKING?
'Zactly how does it work when human traffickers put those women in the hand job shop in the first place? Is it because you think they are there of their own free will?
Tell me, in the human trafficking cases charged here, who do you think the victims are?
Is this the quality of reasoning that makes one adopt the libertarian view?
I think what he is saying is go after the human traffickers, not the people using the services of those being trafficked (?).
I went to a PD on human trafficking recently and it was fascinating. I always heard the term and just though of prostitution and the child sex trade. It’s much more widespread than that.
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Kraft's attorney said the DA will be short on evidence.Not sure the evidence will stand up in court
You would think Kraft would be on the down low for a few days, but he is out at a big party with Bezos. Bezos paid way more for his booty call than Kraft. I guess they are comparing notes. Aww, the dirty laundry.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-pictured-pre-Oscars-party-Beverly-Hills.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-pictured-pre-Oscars-party-Beverly-Hills.html
Ok, but in most HT/ prostitution cases, the women are slaves. For me, the order of culpability is Trafficker, John, sex worker.
I was just explaining what I think the poster was saying, not necessarily agreeing or disagreeing with it.
The training was really eye opening for me as far as what to look for as human trafficking outside of the sex trade. They showed us a YouTube clip of a news story in Chicago that exposed some traffickers. I’ll see if I can find it.
I've attended some lectures about it that were pretty eye opening, especially the notion that anywhere there is an interstate with big truckstops on it, there you will find HT. The FBI has an HT task force just for the I 81 corridor from Harrisburg to Winchester, Va.
I would like to see that video, if you can find it.
I'm sure this will blow over......Not sure the evidence will stand up in court
But the real issue isn't prostitution- it's trafficking. Apparently many of these women (and underage girls, if I don't miss my guess here) were held against their will. .
excellent post! Two points to add:
1) prostitution is one thing, human trafficking is another. The latter involves kidnapping, slavery, rape, etc. It is common now for prosecutors to bust a small time house of prostitution and claim to have stuck a blow against "sex trafficing" just to make themselves look good.
2) you will always hear takes of hardship from individual prostitutes even if they practiced their trade legally. It's a tough job, but so are allot of careers in this economy.
"you will always hear takes of hardship from individual prostitutes even if they practiced their trade legally. It's a tough job, but so are allot of careers in this economy."
Agree. Esp your second point. Reminds me of an old song by Guy Clark.
Agree. Esp your second point. Reminds me of an old song by Guy Clark.
Connorpozlee wrote ".... I think what he is saying is go after the human traffickers, not the people using the services of those being trafficked ... "
This is exactly what I am saying. I used the drug analogy to illustrate that we go after the wrong people (and make their lives worse than they already are) in an effort to stop the more harmful people that are more difficult to capture.
Not all prostitutes are victims of trafficking. Whether or not they are, it is still illogical to penalize them as a group unless, as I've outlined, you want to hurt people who have been victims in life to go after perpetrators of serious harm (human traffickers). I believe there should be a way to separate these rather distinct groups of people.
Demlion, this is my take on your response: You saw "libertarian" within the first sentence and, because it is likely very different from your own politics, your interpretation was nothing close to what I actually wrote. Even though I wrote something that isn't too far from your own view, with a rather clear analogy, you interpreted it in an absolutely confounding way, and responded in a negative tone.
It is telling when one of the most educated within our society, an attorney, comes up with a response like this to the words that were actually written. It is no wonder that our political discourse is beyond hope. In arguments we tend to talk (or write) right past each other.
I don't think the problem is about an inability to speak or write clearly. It has become about dark filters that make us see only what we want to see -- the result of becoming polarized through continued and deep immersion within the view that gives us most comfort. This happens because we are indeed "free" in the base case to choose the groups within which we align, but in the end it produces an overwhelming current against freedom itself. We seem to be unable to express without someone taking offense. The result is oppression of expression, censorship, and so on.
Thanks for the diagnosis. Sure sounded to me like you were equating Johns and prostitutes, and in an HT situation that is simply unfounded.
To be clear, this IS AN HT SITUATION. Funny, I have good friends who are Libertarians. MY take on what you said is that, like the Libertarians I know, you sometimes let the "no government" horse run off with the "fairness and decency" cart. Chances are pretty good that these "prostitutes" are in fact slaves, which in my view makes them not criminals but rape victims.
In my understanding, Kraft's alleged desire to get sexual favors for money in a strip mall makes him a definite part of the HT problem. So how about we treat the victim differently than the criminals who commit human trafficking and support it financially?
Do some women do this work willingly? Yeah, but their place of work gets busted, you dont see HT charges.
