I totally agree with you that this will be the tact. They are buying time because they, apparently, know its their only hope. We'll see if the courts let them get away with it.....seems to me that the tide may have turned politically.
Scott says Superior court denied PSU & Pepper Hamiltons appeal
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I totally agree with you that this will be the tact. They are buying time because they, apparently, know its their only hope. We'll see if the courts let them get away with it.....seems to me that the tide may have turned politically.
Kinda makes ya wonder what the Gray Men are hiding, don't it? CR66's post is all about delaying and obfuscating. To accomplish what? To hide what? The skeletons in the closet seem to be rattling pretty loudly.
I think the best part of this is that Pepper Hamilton has already distanced themselves from Freeh. How far will they go to protect his interests in this?
I'll conduct another poll (that's an advantage of working for a market research company) and post my results.
I'll conduct another poll (that's an advantage of working for a market research company) and post my results.
MOAR POLLZ!
Yeah, and it would be AWFUL DAMN curious if it was the NCAA objecting to the Paternos wanting to see what was in the Freeh documents.
unfortunately I agree that pepper Hamilton will continue to drag this out for as long as possible but I think today is a HUGE step in the right direction
Even God misses......sometimes.I've survived two car crashes that involved a fatality ---- so, bottom line, wish for that if you will, but you'll probably still be stuck with me.
You probably don't want to press your luck.
Have a nice flight!
Meh - that's a little harsh and a little classless.
Not unless Sollers does, in fact, have someone from the Freeh team willing to testify on behalf of his clients. If someone who worked on this case has flipped and has said Document X exists, and somehow Freeh can't produce it...
That was pretty easy to see coming. When Ira came back from nowhere - it was pretty obvious it was to throw his weight around to make sure nobody from the BoT cracked.
Oh joy, oh rapture, what a wonderful joke being played !
N i t t a n y A m e r i c a
N i t t a n y A m e r i c a
and makes me believe he was very involved beyond just anointing his tenant and buddy as AD.
Only a fool can't see the patterns here. Hide, hide, hide. Spend millions and millions and millions hiding stuff. And then, have everybody believe that there is nothing to hide?
Sure.
Sure.
Everybody's got something to hide, except for me and my monkey.
Ive been saying it for 4 years...this is and always will be about $$$$ flowing thru the 2M into prominent pockets....noone has been able to prove me wrong yet. I would love to know what Blehar thinks about all this. Hope he is on the Yellowstone catching some cutthroats and has a big grin on his face...
That was the rumor a long time ago but who knows if it's true? It would certainly be awesome if Freeh produced what he claimed was all the relevant documents and the person who flipped could verify that Freeh was withholding certain things. We'll see.
Only those who are content to share a brain with the MSM and The Ship of Fools fell for the evidence tainting JVP was "secure in Philadelphia, protected by attorney client privilege."
Wick Sollers and the Paterno's know exactly what they are looking for. The Fools similarly know exactly what it is they are desperate to keep hidden. There is no other logical explanation for the squandered millions of PSU dollars.
Wick Sollers and the Paterno's know exactly what they are looking for. The Fools similarly know exactly what it is they are desperate to keep hidden. There is no other logical explanation for the squandered millions of PSU dollars.
You know that the Paternos have been able to contact and review what was said in many of the Freeh interviews, and will be able to compare and contrast to what they see in the report. If I was interviewed by Freeh, I would certainly be giving the Paternos my recollection of the interview. Of course they would not have access to Vickeys, Karens, Surmas, or Fraziers multiple interviews with Freeh, but I'm guessing/hoping that many of the others documented what was asked of them right after the meeting (even though they were not allowed to record the actual interview or have representation present). If any of the notes/report are not supplied when the Paternos ask, they could easily drop the other shoe asking why X wasn't. Not supplying info that the judge requires is not a good thing to do. I'm certain the Paternos have quite a bit of info that is in the report already.
Hey cruising, my best friend was out that way and played at Jasna for 5 days. Saw many photos, awesome
As one BOT sock puppet to another, I must disagree. First, the attorney/client privilege argument's always been a loser. How can an "independent investigator" also be your attorney? Aren't they mutually exclusive? And I think the Paterno Estate will get everything since it's all relevant. The theory is that Freeh shaped his report to reach a predetermined end by picking and choosing what when in. Obviously, it would all be relevant in order to see what went into the report and what didn't..
My hope is that some news organization files suit to get the documents.
It'll be interesting to see which side the Paterno Estate takes in that case.
Nice post, CDW and well stated. Exactly correct, with no "smoking gun", the reader is left to sort out the circumstantial evidence. Unless you have all of it, with the context, the Freeh opinion is worthless. In addition, as you say, an "independent investigator" by very definition, is not your attorney. But the BOT will use every possible avenue to stall and delay. When you are going to be executed, you'd always opt for tomorrow as opposed to today. But politically, I believe these judges (and their parties) saw the results of the gubernatorial election and the Supreme Court elections and know how the wind is blowing in PA. The question now is, do you slit your own wrist or those of your "buddies?"
Freeh is now "on the clock" and it won't be long now. His appeals will go nowhere.
Some will claim to the bitter end that there is material to embarrass JVP and family. If it existed the Fools would have found a way to broadcast it long ago. Freeh gave it all he had....which was nothing.
Wait...you mean the BOT is protecting Paterno by making everyone assume he was an enabler instead of releasing the information that would have proven it? Its like saying "I shot my dog so that he wouldn't, some day, get run over by a car."
The Fools were blinded by Freeh's resume and the Guard All Shield provided at the time by Tommy Boy. They never imagined that anyone would have the temerity to actually read, analyze and question The former FBI prevaricator. Keeping their motivations for the vendetta and protecting TSM are the only conspiracy in this sorry saga.
Not blinded by his resume....they knew what they were doing, and the knew that hiring Freeh, with his background, would appear to give them some semblance of credibility.
Even God misses......sometimes.
You probably don't want to press your luck.
It would be nicer to simply ask for God to cut off my internet access. A few cleverly placed lightning bolts.
So your saying that not only 1 Freeh lacky has flipped but 2 others as well?
Thats huge.
I agree with some of the sentiments leading this way, there are some in the axis of evil close to turning on their partners in this case, literally, crime. It is a matter of time. There are some with less skin in this that can come out relatively clean by sounding the alarm. This is what is now going on behind closed doors. Who do you trust when the first to out others may get a deal and some of their reputation repaired?
This is like when a top notch recruit is going to announce....this board will be on "Monkey on Crack" alert.
More likely, the fear of defecation had something to do with Lubert returning and his recent election. There won't be enough Imodium available in State College for our "friends" on the BoT the day the Paterno's attorneys get ahold of the Freeh materials.
Not sure about this. The old guard BOT have all been drinking from the same koolaid vat most of their lives. It is possible that they believed that Freeh was very credible. Not a stretch really, given that so many people of all stripes STILL go with the Freeh Report.
Heck, even many posters here thought there was a shot at getting to the truth when Freeh was hired.
