1. Gable. 2. BIG runner up. 3. Schultz 4. BIG 3/rd place. 5. BIG 4th place. Will be the likely seeds. could see 2 and 3 flip flop if they reward the duck of Kerk early. Big key to get opposite Gable at BIG tournament and reach the final. Who wouldn't want to watch a Cass/Paris quarter final with the winner having Gable waiting to pounce in the semi.
Seeding Question
- Thread starter NittanyChris
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Schultz is #2 if he wins out from here if the NCAA Wrestling Committee sticks to the criteria.
Have at it. Easier said than done, and nothing will ever be perfect. Plenty of ways for fans to apply their own opinions, none that I've seen are better than what's in place.
Btw, there is a path to Kerkvliet getting the 2nd seed if Schultz wins out. If Kerkvliet beats Cassioppi (probably twice) and wins out himself except for the B1G finals, he should have a better CR, RPI, and Good Wins. That would be enough, as I see it.
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So Zeke Jones can sit his guy vs the two toughest guys on their schedule and be rewarded for this by the seeding committee?
I’m just a fan, but that certainly doesn’t seem fair to Parris or Kerk.
I get it. In a fairness sense, assuming the kid is perfectly healthy, it's gamesmanship. This happens in every sport.
One big one we see every year is NFL starters sitting the last regular season game when their team has a playoff berth sealed. Lots of them do this. At times it has affected the outcome of games, and OTHER team's chances to make the playoffs. Affected fans then B&M.
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I would like to see the system changed in one way. You show up on weight and wrestle you get the quality win credit over the highest ranked member of the opposing team at that weight class. It doesn't need to hurt the RPI or win percentage of the no show, but it should at least help the person who was willing to put it on the line a bit more.
I had an opportunity to watch Schultz wrestle against Auuilar from Cal Poly. I think Zeke made a damn good decision when he didn't wrestle Shultz against Kerkules.(even though Shultz was seen in a singlet ready to go).
Purely a guess, though an educated one -- the first Coaches Panel Ranking should come out this week, likely Thursday or Friday. Certainly no later than next week.
Edit: Actually, it's already out, I'll post here and in a new thread...
www.ncaa.com
Edit: Actually, it's already out, I'll post here and in a new thread...
NCAA releases first coaches’ ranking for 2022 DI Wrestling Championships
The NCAA has announced the first coaches ranking for the 2022 NCAA Division I Wrestling Championships.
www.ncaa.com
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Big10 2 could still get the two seed over Schultz. It likely will come down to RPI. Per the matrix, Head to Head and common opponents will be split 17.5%/17.5%. Big Ten 2 likely will have Quality Wins (15-5) and Coaches Ranking (15-0) while Schultz would have Tourney placement (10) and Win Percentage (10). That makes it, Big Ten 2 47.5, Schultz 42.5 with RPI left.
Roar, coaches came out last week.
www.ncaa.com
NCAA releases first coaches’ ranking for 2022 DI Wrestling Championships
The NCAA has announced the first coaches ranking for the 2022 NCAA Division I Wrestling Championships.
www.ncaa.com
This doesn’t seem like an equivalent example. In one circumstance you have earned your seed in advance and take a bye in order to maintain health. In the other you are manipulating your seed through avoiding competition. You would have to take it a step further and sit your players knowing you would lose because it would allow a lesser team into the playoffs as your opponent which I can’t recall ever happening.
I am sure examples could be found but would have to occur in judgement sports such as ice skating, gymnastics, etc or in other college athletics where it is truly impossible to have everyone go head to head due to volume and the powers of transitive property don’t have enough data.
Thanks. Found it too before seeing your post. It's now posted 3x in different threads, including one of its own. Again, much appreciated.Roar, coaches came out last week.
NCAA releases first coaches’ ranking for 2022 DI Wrestling Championships
The NCAA has announced the first coaches ranking for the 2022 NCAA Division I Wrestling Championships.
Hi Fink,
Just a question. The only matrix I could find is last seasons, when RPI was excluded. Nothing I've read says that the NCAA is returning to the 2019 model, though it's my guess that they will. Have you seen the 2022 matrix? THANKS
I have not. Last year's selection process (striking RPI) is still linked. I guess its possible that they leave it out.
Correction: This link is for qualifiers and not seeding. Sorry about that.
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Important dates upcoming
Feb 10: 2nd coaches ranking and 1st RPI
Feb 24: 3rd coaches rankings, 2nd RPI and conference allocations released
Mar 9: NCAA Championship Brackets released
Feb 10: 2nd coaches ranking and 1st RPI
Feb 24: 3rd coaches rankings, 2nd RPI and conference allocations released
Mar 9: NCAA Championship Brackets released
