I do not see either Washington or Jacobs turning pro.
JPJ - yes. Ola if 1st round grade -yes.
JPJ - yes. Ola if 1st round grade -yes.
If Ola is a top 10 or 15 pick he is gone.I do not see either Washington or Jacobs turning pro.
JPJ - yes. Ola if 1st round grade -yes.
You have some inside info?If Ola is a top 10 or 15 pick he is gone.
Typically, I would agree. The mitigating factor is the kid is just 19 years-old. He could probably use another year in college at that age.If Ola is a top 10 or 15 pick he is gone.
Aaron Maybin could have used another year in college but why turn down a $15 million NFL deal?Typically, I would agree. The mitigating factor is the kid is just 19 years-old. He could probably use another year in college at that age.
Too many fourth quarter collapsesThe amount of PSU talent in the NFL says you're full of shit that CJF has failed to "develop" the talent he's had.
Because sometimes another year will enable you to be in a slightly better position to have and maintain long-term success in the NFL. Though, as I said, most often taking the cash is the right move, especially if you’re projected to go very high in the draft.Aaron Maybin could have used another year in college but why turn down a $15 million NFL deal?
Is he really eligible for the draft? 19 seems really young to have the required 3 years out of high school.Typically, I would agree. The mitigating factor is the kid is just 19 years-old. He could probably use another year in college at that age.
I also agree that taking the cash was almost always the best option in the past. I wonder if NIL money in college will change that equation moving forward to help some avoid the pull of instant cash and develop appropriately in college for one more year.Because sometimes another year will enable you to be in a slightly better position to have and maintain long-term success in the NFL. Though, as I said, most often taking the cash is the right move, especially if you’re projected to go very high in the draft.
No we won't. For chrissakes, we'll still have Carter, King, Elsdon, Katshir, and DeLuca.. Jacobs would be a big loss too. We would be relying on 2 true freshmen LBs.
I also agree that taking the cash was almost always the best option in the past. I wonder if NIL money in college will change that equation moving forward to help some avoid the pull of instant cash and develop appropriately in college for one more year.
Also remember that the 92 team underachieving and in one of his books Paterno admitted to "losing them."Do not forget the talent that surrounded Kerry Collins. There was not a running back room any deeper anywhere in the country....and this was not a good Indiana team. But the program is heading in the right direction... for sure.
That's great if you think Carter + a few mid 3* recruits and a walk on will match up well against the top teams.No we won't. For chrissakes, we'll still have Carter, King, Elsdon, Katshir, and DeLuca.
They are totally different DTs....PJ is a massive space eater, Zane much quicker and athletic, but built like a Givens or Spice Adams. Still need some bigger bodies on the inside that can dominate.And don't sleep on Zane Durant, a year in the weight room and replacing PJ becomes a bit easier.
I am impressed with Orlovsky every time I hear him. Does his homework. Him and Bob "whatever his name is" are a solid team. I know they got off track about candy the last part of the broadcast. But the game was a blowout and they were having some fun. To me, Blackledge and Orlovsky are better analysts than Herbstreit. They give more indepth analysis of plays.
Freshmen made a big impact when we got DWill, Butler, Sargent, and Norwood. The key was that we had a lot of the other pieces in place. Allar, Singleton, Carter, etc should have a lot of success the next two years is they have an adequate supporting cast (DL, OL, LB).Who knows if it will turn out to be the best freshman class. But it's probably fair to say no freshman class has ever contributed so much as freshmen.
That's a reflection of how college football is changing -- not only no need to redshirt, but a real need to play people and see what they can do early because they're only going to be in Happy Valley 2-3 years. The good ones will go to NFL, the not so good will transfer out if they can. And this will even be true at traditionally slow-developing positions like OL DL TE LB. You have to play people early and the schemes have to accommodate that.
No, just my opinionYou have some inside info?
It is way too early
This one looks short on both talent and impact.
I agree but the biggest cause has been leadership at quarterback. An elite quarterback doesn't throw the interception in the Rise Bowl with Southern Cal or turn the ball over 4 times in a huge game. . We have been lacking elite QB leadership and leadership in general.First, living in Cleveland, I’ve had enough of the ‘wait’till next year’ mentality. Secondly, tap the brakes. This is a bad Indiana team that, inexplicably, started a QB who is on the team but in the transfer portal. Worse, he gets hurt. Worse, they put in a kid that was clearly an overwhelmed freshman. Then they put in a kid who actually looked competent, because he could run, but they were behind by 3 tds.
So the team did what they needed to do. CJF has them ready to play. We’ve got some great freshmen but, with the portal and the nature of football, there are no guarantees. I am still skeptical of his game time coaching. You watch LSU and Tennessee who have found ways to beat good teams. We still haven’t found a way to do that.
Gotta feel sorry for Coach Wally.....I don't know who had a tougher season Jimbo Fisher or himTake your own advice.
Exactly.The amount of PSU talent in the NFL says you're full of shit that CJF has failed to "develop" the talent he's had.
I think the OL has made great strides this year. Several young players have stepped in and played well due to injuries, including a true frosh, Shelton. Apparently, you haven’t watched Carter play LB this year. Many consider Rojas to be a top LB recruit. You don’t consider Allar to be an upgrade at QB? Interesting.Bright only if the Offensive Line and QB and LBs get major upgrades.
Lots of ifs and the recruiting pipeline is only fair on OL and LBs.
You are correct. Which is why the only thing that matters is playing well and finishing 10-2. Orlovsky also said something interesting which was that with the 4 team playoff, many think that if you don’t make the playoff your team stinks. I think we can safely include you in that group."I never was but am always to be, and everyone looks forward to me."
There is no future, only present. How many times must PSU miss the boat by Halloween and we are left with "the future".
If Franklin holds onto lead last week, PSU is Md, Rutgers and MSU away from the playoff or pretty darn close. Now we are hoping for the Citrus, a 3rd place finish and "next year". The cycle never stops.
Well the lines got handled by Michigan but held up well against OSU since PSU had slightly more rushing and passing yards against the Bucknuts. That game was lost due to losing the turnover battle 4-0.We need a major upgrade in talent on both offensive and defensive lines. We'll never take the next step until we own the LOS.
You obviously haven’t been watching the games this year. I don’t disagree with the assessment that the 1994 team had a better class, but to claim that the freshmen on this team lack talent and impact is asinine.This is pure hyperbole. It is way too early to make such judgements. Right now, Franklin's first class (and worst rated one) remains his best by a country mile, never mind some of the classes pre-Franklin. Go look at Kerry Collins freshmen class and say this is the best freshmen class in Penn State history with a straight face. Look at the 05 class. Same story. Maybe it will be it will be in the discussion in two years but not likely given the overall strength of our best classes. This one looks short on both talent and impact.
Can we keep them when someone throws a ton of cash their way?Drew Allar
Nick Singleton
Kaytron Allen
Abdul Carter
Dani Dennis Sutton
Drew Shelton
and so many more.
Great class coming in and recruiting should finish out strong when recruits see the potential for championship run.
Great tight end development
Elite DB development with many NFL level talent
Linebackers trending up
Three Oline studs coming in
Now we are seeing elite recruitment and player development everywhere including Oline—- Juice Scruggs was only starter in whole game but line dominated and has true depth
Give Franklin credit— future is bright!!! He runs a great program now poised for championship runs