Is this an actual NCAA limit, B10 limit, school limit, or urban legend?
I've heard that schools typically travel max 15 to keep costs down, but never heard of it being a rule.
So what does the all-knowing board think?
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I've heard that schools typically travel max 15 to keep costs down, but never heard of it being a rule.
Lol..Sir Pish is fine. I hate the 69 in my name..Pish was my nickname in college..69 was my number, but anytime someone sees that number, they think I was being silly.
I don't want to be annointed a "Sir" unless I win this bet..and it will only last a week..
That being said..I won't be upset, if you'd like to call me Sir Pish
Without Roar, hard for the rest of us knuckleheads to live up to the all knowing board label.
These limits are not from the NCAA Rulebook. I've seen the Big 12 rule which states 13 for that conference, so my conclusion is that it is a Conference Rule, and may be defined further by each school. Scoured the PSU Policies and found nothing, so pretty sure, though not positive, it's a Big Ten Rule. The Big Ten is not as transparent as other conferences, and info like this is hard to find. I'm guessing SHP's earlier reference to 13 for a 1-dual weekend, and 15 for a 2-dual weekend is the actual rule, for level-playing-field reasons. Sorry, best I have...
Love knuckleheads...all of you
Even me? I feel like you slap my wrists more than others
Per SHP the limit is 13 for a single dual and 15 for a weekend with 2 duals. I could not find anything in the rule book that even addressed this. However, I know there is a limit to the travel squad for football, although that may be a BIG limit.
Nova is to slow as usual.
If they just Free The Lee tonight I will be thrilled.
I am going to jump on the "Ask Roar" bandwagon...how does the weight certification process work? Is the testing done by a PSU person, or someone from the conference, NCAA etc? I know (think) that drug testing is done internally, am not knowledgeable on this procedure...
Actually..that's not a bad idea for a new thread..just name it "Ask Roar," pin it to the top and Roar can do his magic
For football it is a B1G rule.Per SHP the limit is 13 for a single dual and 15 for a weekend with 2 duals. I could not find anything in the rule book that even addressed this. However, I know there is a limit to the travel squad for football, although that may be a BIG limit.
Nova is to slow as usual.
The way Nolf is wrestling I don't know how anyone can predict a regular decision. Zain absolutely brutalized Pantaleo 2 years ago when they wrestled, I think Nolf techs or pins him.
Weight Certification Process (a few key points)
The "assessor" shall be a member of the institution’s athletics medical staff (for example; physician, certified athletic trainer, or registered dietician).
Lots more detail than this, though it'll give an idea;
-- Determine urine specific gravity. Must be below 1.02 for Body Density calculations. If above 1.02, student-athlete must return no earlier than 24 hours from original test. Below 1.02, and the wrestler is determined to be in a hydrated state.
-- Check Body Density (%Body Fat), using any of these 3 methods; (1) skinfold, with calipers, (2) underwater weighing, or (3) bod pod analysis.
-- The rest is math, and is calculated using the OPC Tool (Optimum Performance Calculator). Basically, 5% body fat is used as the standard, and the wrestler's certified weight is calculated based on that standard. (Example: I weight 169 pounds at the time of testing, with a 12% body density. My certified weight is 156.5 pounds, so I am certified at 157).
-- After that, it's a matter of following the descent rules.
We've discussed this before. The Big10 intentionally strives for clear as opaque. Otherwise everybody would know they have 3 rulebooks. The Woody book, the Bo book and the everybody else book.
It's a B1G limit. Some conferences are more lenient, some may be stricter (the Ivy League used to be brutally strict in this regard, but they changed their rules several years back to a rule similar to what the B1G has). The NCAA does not have any similar limit.
One of my criticism's of the Big Ten is their lack of transparency. I have the "Ivy Manual", and easily found the Big 12 stuff. Appears there's consistency between conferences, which is good, just don't understand all the secrecy within our conference...except it limits accountability, and that's lame.
No Lee unless Cortez is done for the year and Cael's comments lead one to believe that Cortez's injury was not as severe as it looked. My guess is that someone else goes tonight (Blumer/Gardner?) and Cortez gets back into the lineup sometime before the B1Gs.
Weight at certification then becomes the baseline weight, i.e. the first official weight? And are descent plans day to day, or week to week?
Asking because: in order to wrestle today or Sunday, he would've needed to be at/below 125 at cert, fully hydrated. (Plus 4 oz per day if descents are daily instead of weekly).
Right?
In subsequent weeks this is less of an issue because he doesn't have to be fully hydrated at weigh-ins.
I'll bet $500 of Spyker's money that Cael said the same/similar about Cruiseliner Nick's ankle last year, and the Altons' shoulders in multiple years. Probably also Nevills a couple years ago when he did make it back at the end but clearly wasn't ready.
That there are only vagueries about Cortez's state, with not even a very loose ECD, is telling to me.
So I'm of the opposite opinion: Cael's comments to me are evidence that Cortez probably is done, or maybe could rush back and not be right, but Cael isn't gonna throw him overboard or tip his hand.
Yes, first weight is baseline, then the NCAA Weight-Loss Plan spits out and must be followed, with weekly (7 day) weigh-ins. If a weigh-in is above-plan, the Weight-Loss Plan is modified.
Your question is a tricky one, as I'm more familiar with wrestlers that are already rostered and follow the routine procedures, not as much with a wrestler that joins mid-season. Can't imagine it's different. My guess (purely a guess) is that Kuhn is not yet certified.
Thanks Roar! So, am I reading previous posts correctly, that he could not be certified until he was officially in the roster? It would have been more time efficient if he could have certified before so he had time to safely lose weight if necessary...
What do you think? A pinned “Ask Roar” thread? As a fan, but not a previous wrestler, I think it is a great way educate those of us without a wrestling background
What do you think? A pinned “Ask Roar” thread? As a fan, but not a previous wrestler, I think it is a great way educate those of us without a wrestling background
Most of us here in PA just started following this wrestling thing circa 2011, just ask HR. I like the idea of a “just ask HR” thread also pinned
Honored, but not necessary. Let's keep things the way they are.
Please take this as it is written (and intended), as I have nothing more to add. And yes, I understand it does not answer all the questions from this thread...be patient.
Lopez, Gardner, Verkleeren, and all three 197's are on the trip.
Lopez, Gardner, Verkleeren, and all three 197's are on the trip.
Damn. That was a let down. Was really hoping to see Lee tonight and now I have to address Nova as Sir Nova for a week
Sneaky Roar.....That leaves room for 1 more......hmmmm....could it be he rhymes with free?
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I am going to text PDIII and let everyone know the facts......enough of this speculation
Way to go. Now if he wrestles tonight HR will be all aflutter about Cael circumventing the rules with his slushfund.
You are a tad sneaky, with a golden sense of humor.
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