"Summer before Freshman year" = duffel bag of cash
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Pryor was suspended by the NFL upon entry.Yeah but they made Terrelle Pryor pinkie swear that he'd return the following season to serve his suspension. The NCAA and Delany really put their collective foot down with that.
As we all know, Pryor entered the supplemental draft and suffered no penalty whatsoever.
Except for the player(s) who didn't come back for their senior year, so they essentially got zero punishment.A bowl game is pretty meaningless. The NCAA ended up suspending the players involved I think 5 games the next year, right? That's almost half the next season. They did not get off light with that.
And that hurt OSU how?Pryor was suspended by the NFL upon entry.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d822b4f16/article/goodell-pryor-manipulated-eligibility-rules-suspension-upheld?networkId=4595&site=.news&zone=story&zoneUrl=url%3Dstory&zoneKeys=s1%3Dstory&env=&pageKeyValues=team%3Doak%3Bconf%3Dafc%3Bdvsn%3Dacw%3Bplyr%3Dterrelle_pryor&sr=amp
Pryor was suspended by the NFL upon entry.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d822b4f16/article/goodell-pryor-manipulated-eligibility-rules-suspension-upheld?networkId=4595&site=.news&zone=story&zoneUrl=url%3Dstory&zoneKeys=s1%3Dstory&env=&pageKeyValues=team%3Doak%3Bconf%3Dafc%3Bdvsn%3Dacw%3Bplyr%3Dterrelle_pryor&sr=amp
It didn’t hurt OSU. That’s not what the post I quoted was about. Don’t move goalposts.And that hurt OSU how?
"Summer before Freshman year" = duffel bag of cash
You’re right on that case. The NCAA and Delany are useless, spineless, witless, and many other -less adjectives.Apologies. I was under the impression we were discussing the NCAA and Delany and their lack of common sense in applying this particular penalty.
Yup, well stated. This is the biggest joke of all this season and none of the talking heads in the media ever bring it up. This kid not only shouldn’t be playing this year, but the NCAA apparently couldn’t give a ‘rats ass’ whether Mr Fields actually attends classes, or needs to academically apply himself @ ‘ THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY’ ... What a joke the NCAA has become:I don't see how a cash cow like this kid is gonna be kept off the field. Everyone is behind osu making everyone as much money as possible. A little detail like breaking NCAA rules is not going to get in the way of profits. Case in point their QB shouldn't even be playing right now!
Well.... so long as we have definitive word from a reliable and informed source
If he took money from friends and repaid it as he's reporting - and not OSU or an agent - nothing to see here. He'll be back for PSU. We'll see.
If he took money from friends and repaid it as he's reporting - and not OSU or an agent - nothing to see here. He'll be back for PSU. We'll see.
If it's not a big deal then why is he suspended for Maryland?If he took money from friends and repaid it as he's reporting - and not OSU or an agent - nothing to see here. He'll be back for PSU. We'll see.
If it's not a big deal then why is he suspended for Maryland?
The Heisman pressure was getting to him?He wanted a week off?
LOL Barry. I said take it for what it's worth.Well.... so long as we have definitive word from a reliable and informed source
FWIW, I ran this whole situation by my Dog.
He said "Arf Arf Woof Grooooowl Bark".... which is, as we all know, Labradorese for "Yeah, a lot of hallabaloo about what will end up being a nothing burger"
Then he asked for a treat - and wanted to go take a crap. Kinda' like the NCAA
That's wishful thinking. It could be the opposite.Even if he ends up playing against us, the locker room distractions can't be good for them.
Oh it’s cute you think it was really a family friend.If he took money from friends and repaid it as he's reporting - and not OSU or an agent - nothing to see here. He'll be back for PSU. We'll see.
Of course it will make them harder to catch and introduce all sorts of slippery slopes. I'm sure that's one of many factors in the NCAA's decision to keep it a black and white issue when the writing was on the wall (court and public pressure). Rules without the ability to enforce are meaningless, so while the public clamors to pay players they leave the NCAA and the teams holding to bag on figuring out how to make it happen in a manner that's traceable and fair. That's the hardest part but 99% of the people that gripe that the players aren't being treated fairly just like to ignore that portion.Now THERE is a loophole I hadn't considered.
Seriously, do people think that new rule would eliminate players taking money from agents? I think the rules will make it harder to catch them. A lot more money changing hands. Easier to blend in.
If there's any truth to that then the timing of this certainly becomes just as interesting as the truth of what happened. It sure is convenient that a 2018 incident pops up during the weakest 2 game stretch of OSU's conference schedule.Take this for what it is worth, but a friend of friend type thing works in a compliance office in another D1 school (small school) and they said they expect it to be 2 games based on their experience.
Maybe I was wrong that the NCAA wouldn't accept this.
Weren’t they given an option? Sit or play and they opted to sit the beginning of the following year?
It didn’t hurt OSU. That’s not what the post I quoted was about. Don’t move goalposts.
But since you ask, OSU did not have the opportunity to play for the championship in 2012 as a result of the nonsense.
Bingo. They’re thinking Natty and this would nullify anything they win.Probably not the NCAA. More likely OSU.
Oh it’s cute you think it was really a family friend.
If there's any truth to that then the timing of this certainly becomes just as interesting as the truth of what happened. It sure is convenient that a 2018 incident pops up during the weakest 2 game stretch of OSU's conference schedule.
Man I could not agree with you more. This is exactly what I thought right away. I am saying 100% he plays against us.If there's any truth to that then the timing of this certainly becomes just as interesting as the truth of what happened. It sure is convenient that a 2018 incident pops up during the weakest 2 game stretch of OSU's conference schedule.
We have a player that tries to spit on another player and misses with said loogie get suspended for one game against an undefeated team.Man I could not agree with you more. This is exactly what I thought right away. I am saying 100% he plays against us.
The NCAA has a history of being not so forgiving with tOSU. Have we all forgotten what happened with the tattoos already?
Just a "Friend with Benefits"
We have a player that tries to spit on another player and misses with said loogie get suspended for one game against an undefeated team and they have a guy THAT IS ACCEPTING CASH get suspended for 2 weak opponent games? Sounds about right.
We have a player that tries to spit on another player and misses with said loogie get suspended for one game against an undefeated team.
They have a guy THAT IS ACCEPTING CASH get suspended for 2 weak opponent games? Sounds about right.
He's tired.....even after a bye week.If it's not a big deal then why is he suspended for Maryland?
Extra benefit rules apply to both student-athletes and parents. Examples of extra benefits include, but are not limited to, the following: • A loan of money, regardless of temporary nature of loan, intent to pay back the value, or whom the loan is from (i.e. parents of teammates are not appropriate persons to offer loans to student athletes.) • A special discount, payment arrangement or credit on a purchase or service (e.g., dry cleaning, legal representation); • Free or reduced-cost housing; • Transportation, an automobile or use of an automobile; • Services (e.g., movie tickets, dinners, use of a car) from commercial agencies (e.g., movie theaters, restaurants, car dealers) without charge or at reduced rates; and • Cash, gift certificates or other items with value.
In reading the OSU boards, that family friend was his attorney who graduated - get this - from Wisconsin and has been involved with the NCAA before. I believe the NCAA has to be careful here - they're already at a tipping point.That's wishful thinking. It could be the opposite.
Uh......no.
2012 was during the BCS era.
The two teams that year were Alabama and ND...… both of whom were ranked ahead of OSU throughout the entire year - - - - even in the polls that included OSU.
The B10 was a shit pile that year - - - - and OSU had an atrocious schedule (and a handful of crapper games against shitty teams, that they squeaked past).
But, in any event, they were never in the top two of any of the polls or rankings - - - - which is what was necessary back in the BCS era.
So a family friend "loaned" CY money to fly his family to So. Cal. If he was a family friend why didn't he just give the money to his family and not include him in the chain of custody?
i don't fault tOSU for him taking money. You can't control what the players do. How a school responds is what matters. If tOSU finds out about improper benefits and reports them great. If they cover them up, then you are a bad program. Jury is still out on what tOSU's role is.
Sad this is where college athletics is.
Shelton is being taught life lessons. From James and the other coaches. That will last a lifetime. And help him achieve greatness off the field. On the flip side you have Young who is being taught. From Ohio State coaches. A whole different mindset. W or L in the shoe. In my eyes those boys in the blue and white have already won. They have all the tools in front of them for greatness. On and off the field.While not condoning Sheltons actions (I dont) its not like #64 and #66 for MSU were choir boys in that game.
If the refs had been properly doing their job Shelton may not have to resort to loogies.