it is your ranking and you can put him where you want. I personally have Dake as number 1 (no matter how much i dislike him) . I just focus more on the wins as opposed to the losses and who Dake beat to win the 4 I find impressive. I haven't thought about where Lee goes but his most impressive tournament was the year he beat both Suriano and Nato.
Spencer Lee
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You tell me. I was just curious who he thought would be the guy to knock Spencer off this year.
First, it’s not a terrible thing to be “only” in the top 10 NCAA wrestlers ever, and not #1 or in the top 3. My top 3 ever are Cael, Hodge, and Gable, and he didn’t supplant any of them. Regardless, 4 NCAAs and likely 3 Hodges is impressive, so he (& Yianni) will be in the next group you talk about with Dake, Steiber, etc.
Look at that! Big Tens and Midlands matter again 😂
It took me a while to give Dake credit for his accomplishments. I was sour appleing him up until Taylor changed weights.😱
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I requested that the PIAA permanently ban me from all hs sporting events for failing to be there and yelling obscenities at Larry when his kid lost in the state championship finals.
I'm just willing to wager that if he loses, he will use his injuries as an excuse (or use the feigned "non-excuse excuse").
There's five on a basketball court, no one can deliver a championship (let alone two)
There's nine on a baseball dial court, no one can deliver a championship (let alone two).
There's ten on a college wrestling team....
Dumber than making such a promise was anybody that bought it.
I still say whether he gets four or not; DT, Zain, Nolf and Bo were better.
Nolf was so good he made the name of an opponent "a thing".
Yanni dropping down? Wait that wouldn't work. Fix dropping would. And I would bet Fix.
Pat Glory after recovering all day:
You know this the kind of thing right there....
That makes me glad I stumbled onto this board a couple years ago.
You had ONE job……I regret not booing him at the PSU/Iowa dual...
I like Lee and I'm sure he would have done very well at PSU. He obviously clicked with Brands, so good for them both .
Wow that's warping the facts of I ever saw it. I think the point is the overall body of work and Spencer isn't close to any kind of goat in wrestling end of story unless you are from Iowa
don't forget we are only 'fans'..... not really 'our' team,, just the team we root for.... wish more folks realized that...
to each their own but I always thought the 'class' was to act like you have been there before...
Where do you rank Gable Steveson on the All-time? Only two losses his whole career both during his freshman year and both to Anthony Cassar by 1 point in both matches. That was the worst two matches of his career! There were no five losses and definitely never close to being pinned like Spencer was. To me Gable has to be ranked higher than Spencer.
I do not particularly care for spencer, but can recognize he is an all timer, whether that puts him 1st or 10th...he's an all timer.
They do when people are calling you the goat and you have losses there. 5 losses and being decked absolutely put him behind others including Nolf in my mind. We’ve discussed this so many times though I’m not going to get into all the stats again. He’s great just nowhere near the goat
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In the grand scheme it has to be better for the sport that Spencer Lee didn't come to PSU, right? And not just from a fan perspective (to give others a title contender to cheer for).
I can only imagine what corrective measures the NCAA might have felt compelled to attempt to address that level of inequality and embarrassment of riches if we also had a vice grip on the 125 lb title each year Spencer wrestled.
The vast majority of Hawkeye wrestling fans know exactly who the GOAT is. A few of the fan boys mention Spencer and now the Hawkeye fan base is guilty by association. Par for the course
Iowa fans love talking about Spencer Lee’s ACL’s or lack of. Anthony Robles won a national championship without a freaking leg so enough of the ACL talk.
I hope somebody else found something interesting in the article. I think it's clear that Terry's style appealed to Spencer and that was a big factor in his decision. The guy has a chance to be only the 5th (possibly tied for 5th?) Four timer ever. That deserves the attention it's getting.
well he did take a whole yr off due to injuries when before that called people wusses if they didnt wrestle!
We have two, maybe three four-time champions on our team right now. Yes, spencer would have been nice to as not getting him would've provided a death knell to Iowa's program under TnT. Ultimately, he picked a school that has developed lightweights better than anyone in the last 20 years.
Had we landed spencer, we would've taken down the point record in 2018 when suriano stayed, in this alternate reality.
125 spencer 27
133 Suriano 18
141 lee 11.5
149 zain 25
157 nolf 23
165 joseph 21
174 hall 20.5
184 nickal 23
197 rasheed 9.5
285 Nevills 8.5
183.5. damn.
Cael #1 , Dake #2 for me. Dake's four titles at four different wieghts is wild, and the guys he beat, especially beating David Taylor when no other folkstyle wrestler on planet earth could come close to him, and who a decade later is a top three P4P wrestler in the world, puts him number 2 for me.
And he has a lawyer who will argue the point, just in case.Yanni can beat Spencer.
Yeah where is the groundswell of "spencer is the GOAT" thing coming from? I don't see that at all, even on HR. Most are putting him at 3 or 4 with Steiber.
This feels like a classic case of "making up a guy in my head to get mad about on the internet."
Actually for the most part I just don’t care about Iowa good or bad. Granted, I’m not a PSU alum so the hatred isn’t in me like many here but you saying you don’t see people calling Spencer the goat is just disingenuous. You are honest about Iowa usually but not on this take. It’s coming FROM the team which obviously trickles down to the fans. I don’t go over to HR much but any Spencer thread I click on people are absolutely saying he is the best ever
I've noticed he seems bitter this year with a bit of an attitude. I don't get the PA stuff. I'll always root for him.
Well Warner’s mom is mad at PSU fans or maybe just one fan.
oh yeah that was likely me lol.Well Warner’s mom is mad at PSU fans or maybe just one fan.
Did she come up to you and yell at you too?
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