Stanford indicated that they will honor all scholarships.
Stanford dropping wrestling (and other sports)
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That's quasi-honorable of them. It puts the top wrestlers in a tough position, though, I think. Do you go to a lesser school because of wrestling or do you focus on developing your freestyle skills and get your Stanford degree. I have to think have the Stanford scholarship in your pocket would narrow your school/program choices to a very select few if you are thinking about transferring.
Because I've learned that BWI is High Value (to me) Work *, here's a quick peruse of https://www.wrestlestat.com/rankings/starters:
125
3. Patrick Glory, Princeton
4. Vito Arujau, Cornell
16. Michael Colaiocco, Penn
19. Joe Manchio, Columbia
133
26. Angelo Rini, Columbia
141
20. Doug Zapf, Penn
28. Matthew Kazimir, Columbia
UR: Joshua Saunders, Cornell, TRFR, 2x MFS Junior Fargo Champ; 3x Mizz State Champ
149
1. Yianni
22. AJ Haffi, Harvard
28. Lucas Revano, Penn
30. Ricky Cabanillas, Brown
157
5. Quincy Monday, Princeton
19. Anthony Artalona, Penn
21. Colton Yapoujian, Cornell
33. Kyle Mosher, Columbia
165
12. Philip Conigliaro, Harvard
24. Grant Cuomo, Princeton
174
33. Lenox Wolak, Columbia
184
2. Max Dean, Cornell
23. Travis Stefanik, Princeton
197
2. Ben Darmstadt, Cornell
5. Patrick Brucki, Princeton
29. Cole Urbas, Penn
285
8. Yaraslau Slavilouski,, Harvard
* Although this work was self-valued as High to me, results may vary for you. You may find mistakes or annoyance or general distaste for my own very being, such that reading this from me, could be extremely Low value to you.
they do mention that "Many of these sports currently compete without a full complement of scholarships (e.g. wrestling), coaches and resources." so it's possible even their best guys weren't on full scholarships.
Jtothemfp, that is a very good example of servant leadership, which I always tried to practice during my years as a supervisor. Not only did I feel it was the right (ethical/moral) way to lead, but it invariably had the effect of strengthening the relationships I had with my employees.You bring up a good point about mindset, lol. If we adjust our attitudes, ALL work is meaningful, right? I'd like that.
But that sh*t ain't the truth.
The truth is the weak work sucks our time.
Cuz it has to be done. Jocko's got a good chapter in his book Leadership Strategy & Tactics, called Picking Up Brass:
Anyway, I've queued up this pod, so I can enjoy some High Quality #content recommended by my respected brother. Thank you!
No wrestling at Dartmouth but M/W Golf, M/W Swimming, Men's Lightweight rowing all cut: https://news.dartmouth.edu/news/2020/07/dartmouth-announces-changes-varsity-athletics-program
With only 9.9 to give and a tuition of $55k, the scholarship itself isn’t going to amount to much. But what happens if most of the roster transfers? Do the holdouts then get a bigger slice of the remaining pie?
Not that it justifies it obviously, but what is the increase in tuition rates since then?
With only 9.9 to give and a tuition of $55k, the scholarship itself isn’t going to amount to much. But what happens if most of the roster transfers? Do the holdouts then get a bigger slice of the remaining pie?
That would probably be a touch *too* honorable.
Wish them well, but:
"Once the wrestling community is able to get Stanford to engage with them in a dialogue, this group of Stanford wrestling alumni and supporters feel good about their chances."
Ay, there's the rub.
Really good article about NCAA and college athletics that’s very relevant to this thread
https://www.washingtonpost.com/spor...stories-2_jenkins-240pm-dm:homepage/story-ans
https://www.washingtonpost.com/spor...stories-2_jenkins-240pm-dm:homepage/story-ans
I found this from the article particularly interesting...
"Understand this: These schools don’t have a money problem. They have a shopping addiction. From 2004 to 2018, NCAA revenue exploded from $3 billion to $14 billion thanks largely to media rights, licensing and sponsorship deals. Yet some schools are so financially distressed that a single canceled football season could be catastrophic. Stanford has cut 11 sports, and Wisconsin informed donors that it could face a $100 million shortfall. Where’d the money go? The answer is, to compulsive spending and gross misallocation. Hundreds of millions disappeared into the pockets of deputy assistant associate athletic directors for administration, conference commissioners for the commission of commissions and Nick Saban’s corporate-welfare army of “football analysts.”
and
"Before anything else, NCAA schools have to get their spending and their addiction to debt under control."
A few observations:
1. The shopping addiction comment applies to just about every level of government in the country, every department and agency. It also applies to every college in the country, not just their athletic departments and too many households. Look at the list of college administrators. I think Michigan has over 50 administrators for diversity programs. Not knocking diversity, I think a few would do to manage those programs.
2. Addiction to debt comment says it all
3. Good luck to the players getting a split of the football revenue. Article points out that Wisconsin could face a $100 million shortfall, give the players a split of revenue and that is $125 million shortfall...not happening.
4. D1 sports need to follow a D3 model for most of the sports that lose money. Regional competition, bare bone recruiting expenses and the coaches have other jobs on campus.
“Men’s gymnastics ... has fewer than 20 Division I programs. Men’s volleyball is at around two dozen.”
Wow! I thought volleyball is a mainstream sport. I did not know how bad things could get!
This has been happening to Men’s Olympic sports for decades - there are scores of once-great Olympic pipelines that are gone from the NCAA firmament.
And you have idiotic female sportscasters like Christine Brennan every 4 years practically cackling that American women earn more Olympic medals then the men. Well, yeah, easy to do when Opportunities for male gymnasts, runners, rowers, volleyball players, etc are dwindling
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When people say Stanford can't find the money, etc.: They can. They just don't want to.
If you don’t like all of the teams, maybe you become a fan of an SEC school. The department’s own mission statement addresses the philosophy of having a variety of sports.
“The vision of the Athletics Department is to maintain a broad-based program the equal of any in the nation; to achieve the most favorable graduation rate possible for student- athletes...”
No. The other half. Half the teams have almost zero attendance. Soccer, baseball, field hockey, swimming, tennis, ect.
Research is your friend...
Take off the blue and white goggles and you will
see attendance at sports like baseball, soccer etc outdraw wrestling at almost all schools.
At the very least we should ditch conference affiliation for non revenue sports. It is worthless. Does psu really need to send non revenue teams across country to play in from of 80 fans? Absurd.
If it is based on fans, You would have eliminated Pitt football two decades ago.
I don't know of any amateur athletes who go to grinding practices thinking I'm doing this for the fans in section 205.
I don't know of any amateur athletes who go to grinding practices thinking I'm doing this for the fans in section 205.
You realize many consider wrestling to be a non revenue sport even at PSU right?
Um, other than football and mens bball ALL sports at PSU are non revenue.
If colleges determined what teams they had by profit and attendance.
We'd have two and a half teams at most schools. This is one of the more ignorant takes I see from the fanbase at my own alma mater. Yup, let's cut everything, unknowingly shunning the situation and advocate for a move to Division II and putting the school at risk of gender-equity lawsuits.
Top notch.
We'd have two and a half teams at most schools. This is one of the more ignorant takes I see from the fanbase at my own alma mater. Yup, let's cut everything, unknowingly shunning the situation and advocate for a move to Division II and putting the school at risk of gender-equity lawsuits.
Top notch.
