Does anyone know when the season tickets are coming out for the next eight years?
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Does anyone know when the season tickets are coming out for the next eight years?
I can only think of that great year end banquet put on by the Penn State Wrestling Club. The tradition is to let the seniors speak. With all these additional years, All these guys will have their PhDs. at future banquets. We will literally be hearing from Dr. Howard, Dr. Bravo-Young, Dr. Lee, Dr. Bartlett (149), etc.
An attempt to influence? Not as cut and dry as Willie suggests, imo.
Labriola is 7-0, but really hasn't wrestled anyone that I believe would earn him the top spot without question. He has 1 Fall, 3 Majors, and 3 Decisions against middle-of-the-pack to lowest-in-the-pack opponents.
Kemerer is 4-0, and has the advantage of beating Romero. Other than that his record too is against middle-to-low-in-the-pack guys. Still, other than the Romero decision, he has a Fall and two Majors.
In the big picture, this is one of dozens & dozens of cases where the seedings will be challenging this year. Limited wrestling in a 14-man bracket, x 10, and it's going to look crazy.
I'll bet dollars to donuts, this forum, HR, and others will go nuts when the pre-seeds are announced.
If last year's results are the tie breaker, then a case can be made for Nick Lee getting the #1 seed at Bigs. He, Rivera and Eierman are all undefeated this year, Eierman and Rivera have no 141 results from last year.
Agree 100% but Labs should be the #1. Fans should want this to happen as well maybe in the future coaches will put guys out instead of sitting them for seeding purposes. I know we saw it last year at HWT if we see it this year at 174 maybe just maybe it helps
Adding onto this:
Steen 4 + shirt
Van Ness 4 + shirt
Boone/Lee 4 + shirt
Facundo 4 + shirt (+ grayshirt?)
Kerk 4 (+ med shirt? + Olympic shirt?)
That's not including guys like Manville, Verk, Bearclaw, etc., who would be NCAA qualifiers starting at other programs.
Also not including any potential 2022 recruits (Bouzakis, Manville, Rogers, Berge, etc.).
Cael is the NFL GM with 4 first round draft picks, who can use every pick on the best available guy because he has no needs.
Yes it will be wild because of history and the eye test so many fans push.
But it could make the tournaments that much more entertaining overall.
I think Iowa walks to the team title, but I think behind that it will be absolutely wild. Weird seeds, upsets, backside runs, poor officiating, late match controversies, line up decisions, covid protocols, etc, etc.....its going to be wild
I am so on the fence with your premise (if you don’t come out it will impact seed), but it’s such a slippery slope. I like the idea that if you “duck” you should be penalized but I just don’t believe Kemerer or any of the top guys “duck.” And I don’t know how you penalize someone if they legit injured.
I’m wishy washy on this subject. Sometime I’m 100% in agreement with you and some times I’m not.
In this crazy season with so many lost opportunities I feel past results will weigh heavily. We’ll see..
If Kerk was in the lineup, Penn State wins in a walk this year. IDGAF.
it is because Kem didn't take the mat against Labs... so he is saying when you duck/or don't present yourself (regardless of reason0 the other person shouldn't be penalized... makes sense based on all of the other stats between the two
We have to grow the sport. And by the best matches not happening over and over it doesn't help things. Someone has 5 friends over and wants to get them watching wrestling and has been hyping the match to them all week and it doesn't happen. Good luck getting them to watch again.
Most won't like my solution but for conference seeding. When a dual meet is wrestled the result at the weight counts towards conference seeding regardless of who wrestles.
Now when someone is injured that sucks but it's wrestling the best gotta beat the best so who cares where your seeded. That what got us into this mess anyway
I see your point, but given that the seeding process is subjective by nature I think ducking is fair game. There are times when injury is apparent (Nolf in 2018), other times when it a duck is obvious (Heinselman vs Lee 2021), and other times when it is at least suspicious.
I think the committee can make an informed opinion in such cases.
Kerk would probably score 10-20 more points than Nevills. Let’s say it’s 20 for arguments sake. Let’s check back in on March 20 and see if Penn St is within 20 points of Iowa. But you said it would be a “walk” which indicates a wide margin of victory so you should feel fairly confident in winning without Kerk.
Don't forget Kerk's 50/50 chance of being on Cassi's side of the bracket and taking him out earlier than otherwise costing them points as well.
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How? Wouldn’t Kerk and Cass be a 3 or 4 seed? Even if they weren’t and Kerk took him out Cass would still wrestle back.
He's beaten #2 and #3 now. Both OT matches. But that's even more impressive in a way. You'd expect the freshman to fold in those situations. He's clearly got the belief that he can win and doesn't give up. He's definitely got a chance this year.
I've always paid attention to the Big Ten seeds, as my stab at seedings posted here and Scout were always an enjoyable exercise for me...and I compared the two. May not tackle them this year, given the situation, we'll see. As for the conference, it's important that they are consistent, given limited data. Can't go too crazy on assumptions and records limited by covid protocols.
In the end, it's up to the PSU wrestlers to beat the guy in front of them.
In the end, it's up to the PSU wrestlers to beat the guy in front of them.
Iowa would have to have an all time epic meltdown to not win this year. Last I heard, we are still having Nationals so they have to prove it. They are more of a prohibitive favorite than OSU in Cleveland. Of course, managing a covid pause is tough.
BIGs will be a good learning experience for the young Lions.
BIGs will be a good learning experience for the young Lions.
They will be on the family plan, their children will be attending school with them.Won't Iowa's entire team be made up of 6th and 7th year seniors next year?
What if Kerk makes Cass hate wrestling? How much can a wrestling h8er score in consis?
The sad thing is we never got to see last year and Mark & Cenzo's swan song performances, likely at the expense of Hawkeyes. Likewise what Iowa might have accomplished with that loaded team.
The sadder thing is, this year someone somewhere is probably going to get screwed by the CV bug. We all hope no top 4 guys or top 4 teams are affected but, that may not be the case.
All of this 'PSU has to be perfect' and 'Iowa just needs not to have the wheels fall off', somewhat assumes perfection. This is an imperfect year for sure.
You could have Minn and Mich get hit and someone like Cassi unexpectedly win it all, or you could see Spencer get exposed, with that they might lose Desanto as well, and then a lot of tears in both Iowa and PA.
Sucks, fingers crossed for a level playing field.
The sadder thing is, this year someone somewhere is probably going to get screwed by the CV bug. We all hope no top 4 guys or top 4 teams are affected but, that may not be the case.
All of this 'PSU has to be perfect' and 'Iowa just needs not to have the wheels fall off', somewhat assumes perfection. This is an imperfect year for sure.
You could have Minn and Mich get hit and someone like Cassi unexpectedly win it all, or you could see Spencer get exposed, with that they might lose Desanto as well, and then a lot of tears in both Iowa and PA.
Sucks, fingers crossed for a level playing field.
Your assuming like the rest of Iowa fans that the best case scenario happens and Iowa wrestles to their seed. This rarely happens with Iowa at least in the last ten years. There are several Iowa wrestlers who could lose in the first two rounds anything can happen the same goes for anyone else. I'm waiting to hear the proverbial "wait til next year" comments at the end of March
Hey now, don’t be coming over here to counter passionate fandom with data points.
We all have a bit of homerism in us, especially after an encouraging win. Some of us just struggle more than others to keep it in check.
Iowa has an autobahn to the championship this year. Penn State has a nice rail-to-trail kind of deal. Still gotta do the thing to get there. I’m genuinely getting excited for the postseason—let’s hope that daring on my part doesn’t lead to another cancellation....
Good news is cases have fallen approximately 70% in last last 5 weeks since the national peak on January 10th and continue to fall. Generally the farther north you go the earlier the peak.
Iowa removed pretty much all mandates a few weeks ago, they are doing fine.
Unless you think Nelson Brands is going to kick the door down, the combined Iowa 125/184 advantage is not massive. I’ll take my chances the boys in blue outperform Iowa at 133, 141, 157, 197. Nod to Iowa at 165 and 285. Lean Iowa 174. In Beau I trust at 149. YOU CALLING ME CRAZY?
You lost me with the Iowa 125/184 advantage. 184 is the one weight class where I guarantee we will finish higher at BIGs and NCAAs. All of the other weights (except 125 & 285) are close. 149 is a big question mark until we see who is actually our starter and see whoever that is beat a top 10 wrestler.
125+184. Spencer is going to do his thing, but Brooks is going to offset a lot of that. If Howard gets as much as Brands, Iowa’s one clear advantage is minimized.
I'm still of the opinion that with the number of quality/ranked wrestlers that are already set to miss the nationals due to their teams/league not competing that it should be entitled "The 2021 Quasi-National Championships".
I think 165 and HWY are very clear advantages for Iowa. The other weights will be close but it’s doubtful the point differential will be that large. Clear advantage to Iowa in tournament scoring and another advantage is the Ivy not wrestling. Eliminates potential land mines at some weights.
I could see iowas bonus points placing inside the top 25.
Know that you're half joking, but Kemerer would in fact be a 7th year senior. Eierman would also be a 7th year guy. Marinelli would be a 6th year senior. Young would be a 6th year senior. That's 40%.Won't Iowa's entire team be made up of 6th and 7th year seniors next year?
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