Think about the competition they played in that game. It wasn't NWestern or Delaware.
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Well, for just under 59:59 and when the opponent was playing with 11 players on defense Ohio State only had 10 points. Duke (a good, but not great team) had 14 against that same team. It helps to have 11 on 10, especially for the running play Ohio State scored its last points on. I think ND is a Top-15 type team this year, at best Top 10. They are not elite. With the talent Ohio State puts on the field they should win by at least a TD against a team like ND no matter where the game is played.
You say leading the Conference in PPG and Scoring Margin isn't meaningful because of PSU's schedule - that's laughable bullshit, PSU's schedule to-date is every bit as good as other teams in the Conference especially scUM. So how is it that scUM's stats are impressive, but PSU's aren't when PSU's stats are better! PSU is averaging 195 ypg rushing - more than scUM is averaging 184 rushing ypg (duhO$U only averaging 149 rushing ypg). scUM's rushing offense hasn't been "explosive" - they're only averaging 4.9 ypc!
PSU rushed for 134 yards against NW and did sustain drives, scored and kept the ball away from NW in the 2nd half - PSU scored on 7 of their 11 possessions. Neither the passing game or running game was explosive, but scoring on 7 of your 11 possessions is a much more consistent, and better, performance than you're giving them credit for. PSU has been able to keep the ball out of their opponents hands in the 2nd half of football games - and they've primarily done it by pounding them with the run (PSU ran it 39 times against NW). PSU has been able to move the ball with non-explosive 3-6 yard runs, but they have consistently moved the chains and ground out first downs.
And yet they lead b1g in scoring and have one of the best "possession offenses" in the country (i.e., not just TOP, but scoring on a very high percentage of their possessions.
You know what that's called? It's called good f-ing football, genius. And good teams do that. Do you really think Georgia makes 80 yard TD drives on every single possession? Or Michigan? Get a clue... And covering spreads is not "fanboy" stuff - Vegas knows more about the strength of teams than most college coaches do. Covering the spread 12 straight games is virtually unheard of and is a sign of a very good team - both offensively and defensively (and special teams). We play in the hardest Division in the entire country, by far, and have done this, including a pretty dominant NY6 Bowl game that most geniuses like you predicted we would lose.
West Virginia is now 4-1 with pretty good wins over TCU and Texas Tech (and Pitt hahaha).
Iowa is 4-1 as well and while their offense is pretty pathetic, their defense certainly is not. This moron thinks everyone who is not a "Playoff contender" is "pathetic.... he's a one-trick pony troll. He tries to tell me how awesome FSU was because they beat LSU in both teams opener.... after losing this weekend, LSU is now 3-2 - gee, why is FSU getting so much credit for beating pathetic LSU???
I think UM at home will be good game and quite winnable. Recall that they needed that TD pass to TE, with 2m to go to beat us in 2021. I am not sure OSU on road will be a W. We need OSU to lose twice. It is possible.
When did I ever say FSU was a great team? They had the best "2 wins" of any team and now only Texas is better with Bama and Kansas. I have literally never said FSU is awesome. I just think they make the playoff because of their schedule the rest of the way and them beating LSU was bad for us.
You're all trying too hard to make our opponents better than they are. The argument for us is how convincingly we've beat teams not pretending some are good that aren't.
3-6 yard runs aren't good enough for the duration of a game when we aren't playing garbage opponents...even JF has said since week 1, they need explosive plays and get yards after contact. That isn't happening. And, psu hasn't consistently moved the chains. The PSU D forced what, 5 turnovers vs Illinois...and the offense didn't do enough with those.
Maybe. But maybe he's talking about the offense that can't line up and run in a first and goal against the worst run defense in the B10. Or the one that labored to even get a lead at the half against one of the worst B10 teams. Or maybe the one that averaged 3.4 ypc on the ground againt one of the worst run defenses in college football.
Just trying to help out a brother........
This. Getting the right answer on a quiz is the goal...same with winning the game. But, if the process, and steps, and functions as to how you 'won' are in need of major refinement and improvement, that also matters. Clearly that doesn't resonate on these threads.
We can beat OSU. How?
Run game needs to improve starting with O-Line. But we don't need a monstrous performance just okay. Grind out some yards tp keep them honest so we of course need Allen in there. But most importantly is Allar playing well So that means no turnovers and on the same page with WRs. Speaking of passing game, KLS delivers, TEs deliver AND a second receiver, somebody, anybody in that overcrowded room step up for the love of God! If Allar has a good game then I like our chances.
D plays stout as usual and we are in it to the end.
Run game needs to improve starting with O-Line. But we don't need a monstrous performance just okay. Grind out some yards tp keep them honest so we of course need Allen in there. But most importantly is Allar playing well So that means no turnovers and on the same page with WRs. Speaking of passing game, KLS delivers, TEs deliver AND a second receiver, somebody, anybody in that overcrowded room step up for the love of God! If Allar has a good game then I like our chances.
D plays stout as usual and we are in it to the end.
Or the one that put up 41 points and scored on 7 of their 11 possessions.... Or leads the nation in consecutive games scoring 30+ points.... or leads the nation in covering the spread in consecutive weeks...... etc..... So do tell, if it's so easy to put these numbers up, why is PSU leading the b1g in Points Scored, Average Time of Possession (PSU averaging 36:06 - next closest team is Minny 32:34), First Downs 127 (scUM 2nd with only 110) and Margin of Victory???
LMAO, yea PSU's Offense really sucks - I guess that means the rest of the b1g's offenses are utterly putrid.
Allar is a work in progress with great upside. I really do like that he would rather throw the ball out of bounds than toss an INT, but just hasn't seemed as comfortable on the road. Pressure will increase in Columbus, so he will have to take a big leap from how he played in the previous two road games for PSU to win. Every pass will count against OSU's much improved secondary. I am hoping that Yurcich is going to unleash some new offensive plays against OSU.
BTW, you do realize scUM put up worse rushing numbers against 1-4 ECU @home than PSU put up against NW on the road? Or that through 5 games PSU is averaging 195 rushing YPG and scUM is averaging 184 (and duhO$U way farther down)??? And PSU has played a better schedule than scUM so how do you explain the numbers???
Not hard to figure out this year load the box and make the wide receivers beat you not happening this year can’t see beating OSU or Michigan
Why do you always compare what PSU does to OSU and Mich? They have made multiple playoffs and have proven to be capable of taking that leap. Meanwhile, the same problems at the LOS and in the WR room are there for PSU that we have had for multiple yrs. Who cares about the other programs
Iowa’s defense is as good as ND’s and we scored 31 on them. And WV’a defense is pretty good as well. Some of you act like we’re playing MAC teams every week and UM and OSU are playing Bama every week.
I would add that one very important piece of the running game and short passing game is TE blocking. 84 in particular is struggling and when he misses, his body clogs up running lanes and YAC.
Maybe because silly bozo-trolls like you - just make up whatever unsupported bullshit you like. PSU leads the Conference in Points Per Game, Margin of Victory, First Downs, TOP (by nearly 4 minutes per game over 2nd place team), etc.... PSU leads the Nation in Consecutive Games scoring 30+ points.... Covering the Spread..... etc....
I'm quite positive that none of these things were true "last year" genius.
Look at you name calling on a PSU football thread meant for conversation...Shows your insecurity and inability to be objective. Not a shock.
Yes because the current defensive strategy against PSU is to force Allar to be patient. He is young. They are loading to slow the run and force patient short throws.
Another made up story response.
I didn't say the offense sucks. Go back and try some reading comprehension if you can.
I said the running game is average or below. And it is. And without a runing game that can run the ball in with first and goal the team will not be elite. Period.
Make up another story if you like!
Yep, and I realize that PSU put up 3.4 ypc against Northwestern, one of the worst run defenses PSU will play. Do YOU realize that?
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So now Iowa is better than ND....yeah--people here aren't delusional at all.
He has no objectivity and truly can't handle criticism of PSU or praise for other programs. It's laughable and unfortunate for a place that should be conversation.Another made up story response.
I didn't say the offense sucks. Go back and try some reading comprehension if you can.
I said the running game is average or below. And it is. And without a runing game that can run the ball in with first and goal the team will not be elite. Period.
Make up another story if you like!
Another made up story response.
I didn't say the offense sucks. Go back and try some reading comprehension if you can.
I said the running game is average or below. And it is. And without a runing game that can run the ball in with first and goal the team will not be elite. Period.
Make up another story if you like!
Really, PSU averaging 195 Rushing Yards Per Game through 5 games equates to no running game??? Go make up some more bullshit bozo.
More reading comprehension issues.
Find "no running game".
Your won't get another response from me for you fairy tales.
Hmmm, . . . Need a ref to decide if “without a” is greater than, less than or equal to “no”.
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Penn State ran for 215 yards versus a highly touted Iowa defense.
That gave them control of the game. Not seeing breakaway runs but an effective rushing attack as part of a balanced offense.
That gave them control of the game. Not seeing breakaway runs but an effective rushing attack as part of a balanced offense.
Perhaps overall. I'm not sure their D is much better than Iowa's. We didn't just beat them - we made them look silly to the point a lot of their fans seem to now think the whole Phil Parker era is a fraud. A little extreme I think, but it was that kind of beating.
The first half against NW is what people seem to be upset about. It was a 11 a.m. kick in a quiet stadium against a team a lot of people thought we would steamroll. A team thar has been playing well for their interim coach. A week after a whiteout win in a game that I think Franklin had been targeting since 2021. Classic hangover effect. They did a good job in the second half. They are 5-0 and will have a week off and a chance to fix some things against a somewhat easier opponent prior to heading to Columbus.
All right, all right , all right. Well I certainly got a rise out of several of you. Howard Griffith last night put things into perspective and I quote, "....when they had explosive plays in the past, they were inconsistent and would lose games. Now they're consistent" That is paraphrased but the point is clear. Also, can someone tell me when we last looked good against Northwestern for four quarters?
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