Teske in the portal
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Busiello and 125 are like two ships passing in the night.... more than a year ago
Which leg is he amputating to get to 125?
You’re the one who went out of your way to type it. It’s not like you rehashed the entire radio show. You made 1 point, and “misremembered” it... of course it isn’t a big deal but don’t get upset when you are corrected.
Not surprised with teske heading to the portal, I think he kind of lost his spot. Also he got rough up in Arizona and disappeared and last year he disappeared after getting teched . Not a good pattern going forward, so good luck Brody maybe a change and going up to 133 will help you stay on the mat.
Busiello has all the tools to be a killer, but he's gonna have to adjust moving up multiple weight classes from high school. He came to the right place if he really wants to evolve, but its going to take some time and cracking the lineup at 141-149 isn't going to be easy either.
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I want to preface this comment by saying I take no joy in seeing Teske losing his spot and leaving. I live about an hour from Fort Dodge and saw Brody many times over his high school career.
I never understood this recruitment by PSU. I don't know if Cael has connections back in Iowa that really pushed him to go after Teske hard. I don't know if it was an attempt to take one from Iowa after Iowa had gotten Lee. Brody was very good in high school, but I never saw him being more than a Nick Moore type talent in college. He is a grinder, works hard and will battle hard every match, but he is not dynamic. He doesn't have the skill or raw talent to be a high AA at the next level IMO. I have said this since their senior year, Alex Thomsen was the guy out of that class that people needed to keep an eye on in college. Of course now he is at Nebby, where great recruits go to finish R12.
I never understood this recruitment by PSU. I don't know if Cael has connections back in Iowa that really pushed him to go after Teske hard. I don't know if it was an attempt to take one from Iowa after Iowa had gotten Lee. Brody was very good in high school, but I never saw him being more than a Nick Moore type talent in college. He is a grinder, works hard and will battle hard every match, but he is not dynamic. He doesn't have the skill or raw talent to be a high AA at the next level IMO. I have said this since their senior year, Alex Thomsen was the guy out of that class that people needed to keep an eye on in college. Of course now he is at Nebby, where great recruits go to finish R12.
Next time please tell Cael ahead of time.
I was more just stating my opinion and experience watching Teske all those years to see if someone had any further insight into the recruitment, not attacking Cael's decision. Lord knows every program has this happen from time to time.
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If Cael and Tom Brands were the two front runners for Brody, then maybe the people who were questioning why they would recruit him so hard were missing something.
I think his PSU recruitment was quite simply PSU needed a 125 pounder and Brody was the best available who had a solid projection on the NCAA level. It did not work out, probably Cael knew that last year hence the recruitment of Howard.
Well for Tom I assumed it was to stay on top of Iowa recruits. You don't want to let a 4-timer go with no attention, but Teske never had a spot there.
Just a guess because obviously (and thankfully!) he doesn't consult me ...
I suspect Cael saw Teske as a Conaway type, battler with a motor and tank who could stabilize the lineup at 125/133.
Conaway also enabled a lot of lineup flexibility -- shirt at 125, go up to 133, go back to 125 when Nico shirted, go back to 133 when Nico returned, still place 2x.
Thomsen did list PSU among his finalists but chose Nebraska instead.
Should also note that this class (2018) was the first opportunity to recruit 125s after the Suriano Cruiseliner left port. Glory was also in this class but did not have PSU among his finalists.
If he was "recruiting" Kekvliet, he was tampering. It's hard to believe that the coaching staff would risk that, given their position in the sport. In my opinion, when Kerkvliet entered the transfer portal, he was 75% sure where he was going just like Eierman was 100% sure where he was going. He probably was checking out the direction of the wind at Minny, and had his eye on what the NLWC could offer his career. Accommodating someone's wishes and recruiting are two different animals.
I think for both of these there wasn't any tampering. It shouldn't be news to anyone that the best wrestlers want to go to the best programs. Sometimes it's just that simple.
What is confusing to me a about Kerk is what changed in his mind that he couldn't reach his goals at tOSU? Just not a good personality fit? With Eierman it seems obvious. Smith has done little to develop Mizzous freestyle program.
I think you can draw a pretty straight line where 3 weeks after Kyle Snyder announces he is moving to the NLWC, that Kerkvliet enters the portal. The bigger question is, what if J'den announced he was going to the ORTC only a week after Snyder made his announcement? Would Kerkvliet still have entered the portal?
Kale yeah, what does disappear mean, milk box disappear or missing from the room for days dissapear?
First of all I will start by saying I have seen too many posts spiraling into two guys arguing over thin gs that really don't matter, plus I have been accused of being a grumpy old "Stay off my lawn" kind of guy, so this will be my final post about this.
My point, that I went out of my way to post, was about Teske being in the portal, that was the key part I focused on. I added the extra, from what I thought I remembered, about how Cael thought word might already be out. I guess I was wrong on that part, no big deal. I do not care about being corrected, I would prefer to have the record correct, but to me, your manner with the "Dude..." comment, came across as a bit strong. But, it is probably just me.
So no more comments on this from me, let's talk wrestling.
Yeah. I see enough pissing contests on the football boards. Don't need that here.
Or tell us. Our secretary is routinely in touch with cael.
Had to cut back on the emails but still routinely in touch
I do, one of the best wrestlers in the world for his age decided he was coming to PSU, simple as that. Cael is not going to say I don't want you unless there is some kind of off the mat issue.
Keep in mind at this time PSU does not have a whole lot of scholarship money available, Kervliet is probably not getting much of scholarship money from PSU at this time.
Cael sometimes has a way of downplaying or matter of facting things, style or mannerism that might be unintentional or might be his way of deflecting questions before they're asked.
Maybe that was it?
The cruise liner company wants to know if you’ve got a plan. Because usually they set their own schedule.
Guessing he'd still be at PSU. Kerk flipped from OKST to Tan Tom largely because of Snyder. PSU was also being considered. Missouri was not despite Cox's presence.
Granted, Cox in Columbus =/= Cox in Columbia. But Kerk had already been training with Snyder. Also, if Cox does drop back to 86 kg (which is still unconfirmed publicly), then he is a less effective training partner for the 125 kg Kerk.
You high-falutin’ fancy boys can talk Wrestling. Me and my ilk will talk Wrasslin’.
Also, how full-time is Cox planning to be at Ohio RTC, anyhow? I seem to recall that the announcement was phrased a little ambiguously on that (... but I would need a transcript of what 86PSUPaul’s wife said to be fully sure.
)Entering the 'portal' doesn't necessarily mean you're instantly off the team, or does it?? I'm not sure.
I mean, they could mutually decide to part ways right now, but it's a choice? Is he still enrolled/rostered @PSU or has he left already?
I guess my thought was entering the portal just opens up some doors to other schools in the interim, but one could still compete for their current team if circumstances worked out that way. Or, the athlete could possibly decide to stay put and not leave at all?
As of now your analysis is spot on. I was also surprised by PSU recruiting him, but 125 seems like the hardest weight to recruit and after Suriano left PSU was in a difficult situation. Hopefully he makes the most out of his next opportunity.
Entering the portal does not mean an athlete is absolutely gone. We've had a couple football players return. Tommy Stevens the first time. But it is very rare.
Plus that is a massively risky approach for the athlete. The coach is then allowed to pull the scholarship and not required to restore it. And the coach could tell the athlete they're not welcomed back, we only want guys who want to be here.
I believe the “ next time tell Cael” comment was a bit of sarcastic humor. At least that’s how I took it.
yeah, I wasn't offended by it. Just felt I needed to restate my position. Its pretty easy to see a hawk fan comment and take it as an attempt to start trolling.
This is the 3rd high profile 125 we have lost in 4 years, WTF is going on?
Wasnt there a mention of a tough weigh cut for Brody?
Wasnt there a mention of a tough weigh cut for Brody?
I don't consider Brody a high profile recruit. If Suriano stayed there would not be the convo and he likely would have won a title his freshman year and got beat by Lee the other two years
.It really reminds me of when Iowa recruited Nate Skonieczny. He was supposed to be the guy at 49 for 4 years and it didn't work out. He was just a poor fit for the team. That one recruit set Iowa back at 149 for years. Remember Michael Kelly and how unimpressive they were at that weight? Ya, he was never supposed to be there and it was considered a bit of a curse in itself after Metcalf left. These kind of things just happen sometimes and not every recruit will pan out. With scholarship limits in wrestling it is damn near impossible to plan ahead for these type of situations.
Schnupp beat Teske in a wrestle off also--So I believe he was third string. wish him the best of luck---he is not the first good HS wrestler that had a hard time with the transition to college..and he wont be the last
