Teske
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On the bright side, Brandon Meredith pinned a NCAA qualifier from last year at the Clarion Open. Girard was the 32 seed but still, solid win.
Everyone has been pretty rational here.
If you just want to be pollyanna and not discuss things semi realistically I'd suggest maybe starting a pay site and call it The Intimate Sphere.
Ok, Teske started... Late to the thread, but I thought Schnupp looked much better last year than he did the year before. He was stronger, and was in more of the matches that he lost than he was previous year. Maybe he's on that trajectory. AND, he's experienced.
Well Teske started today and won 2-1 against a kid with a pedigree who’s career 27-10 at Navy.
First match in Rec Hall, first match in blue and white. Lots of pressure , give him a chance
The bar is Schnupp? Wow. Welcome to 125 pounds in the post-Suriano era.
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I was expecting him to be more aggressive on his feet too, but the Navy kid was tough with his ties and in a defensive posture throughout. Teske has lots of time to learn how to get past a good head-hands defense.
BTW, I'm not all that familiar with Treaster's record, but I do know he has a victory over Patrick McKee among his 27 wins.
McKee pinned Treaster in their only match.
https://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/49205/treaster-logan/profile
His best 2 wins are probably 4-3 over Akins (Buffalo's starter last year) and 3-1 over Medley (Michigan's starter this year).
He has had a few blowout losses ... 16-1 to Melendez, 14-3 to Oliver.
Since Hellickson put up 11 on him, gotta think Teske can do better than 2. Hopefully just first match jitters.
Just an observation (I'm behind Teske all the way or whoever we put out there). He wrestled that match like he's from Iowa (which he of course is).
And I wonder if the criticisms are as much for the style as the result? It looked like Iowa.
Agree. When was the last time you watched a 125 lb match where a wrestler has no real shots from neutral in the first period and a half?
It is still really early and maybe there were jitters but that is not the PSU style of wrestling. That said he has had a full year in the room, so he isn't being thrown into the fire as a true like freshman like RBY last year.
I am still going to give the kid the benefit of the doubt and look forward to his next match and some growth. I have a feeling we may see Schnupp or Meredith next time and Cael may not commit to our 125 starter until early January. We might see the same at 149.
One point matches have a way of coming back to bite you late in the 3rd. I want to see action, aggression, and some level of self confidence, especially against an unranked wrestler. I would rather have seen Teske pressing the action and lose the match than what we saw yesterday. Come on Brody let it fly!!!!
Just an observation (I'm behind Teske all the way or whoever we put out there). He wrestled that match like he's from Iowa (which he of course is).
And I wonder if the criticisms are as much for the style as the result? It looked like Iowa.
And his opponent did so even more so. The Navy kid spent pretty much the entire match backing up and not shooting. Way to early in the season and based on just one match to determine where Teske is in his development. A little patience is needed.
Yeah. For the most part, Treaster latched onto the Russian tie and did nothing. Otoh, Teske can't keep allowing Treaster to get the 2 on 1 from neutral.
Well then, someone has it wrong.
https://navysports.com/sports/wrestling/roster/logan-treaster/17731
Is it Wrestle Stat or is it his Navy Boi page?
That would be a Half Delgado. Another 1.5 periods with no shots = Full Delgado.
(Never go Full Delgado.)
Actually, Delgado took quite a few shots from neutral, but only when he was shooting from off the mat. He was pretty consistent about that. Back up, back up, back up, then shoot. If it worked great, otherwise get off the mat. Plus he loved to defend shots with the ankle pass to get a stalemate while he was on his back. With the current rules (Heil rule many call it but I think of it as the Delgado rule) he would have given up a lot ot TDs that were not awarded when he wrestled.
Teske, Schnupp, Meredith, and the kid from Penns Valley (or Penns Manor) who's name is expecting me. Lots of different styles and body types, but all tough kids. Close competition. I like having an underdog or two in the lineup.
149: Gardner, Verk, Pipher, the Utah kid. Same. But better than 125 from a ranking perspective.
149: Gardner, Verk, Pipher, the Utah kid. Same. But better than 125 from a ranking perspective.
I thought the Delgado rule was riding below the waist. Could have been any number of new rules though, including running out of bounds or exposing his own back.
I'll always remember Nico dragging him around the mat like a piece of toilet paper stuck to his shoe, all the while JD was accumulating riding time.
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Okay, 3 to 1, I give.
Strange that Navy would not only get that backwards, they would then post it as a highlight of his season ... oh well
We have to give the Navy a pass on Veterans day. They did get right the winner of the Barbary Wars, Midway, Leyte Gulf, etc.
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I remember one kid who made his Rec Hall debut and got thrown in his head twice and lost. I think he went 1-1-2 his first three years.
Anyone remember his name? Sometimes that first start is the toughest.
Great point.
Reminds me of another kid who in his first match at CHA, squandered a lead and lost to Joe Bag O’Donuts.
But that kid won the 174 title that year and has gone 1-2-2.
Don;t remember if his head hit first but Cenzo's Rec Hall debut was not indicative of the rest of his career.
Cenzo's Rec Hall debut results were not indicative of his career. The match style and pace absolutely were.
He got counter tossed off his own shot, attacked again and got tossed again, and kept attacking until the final whistle. And for the most part hasn't stopped attacking since.
Teske yesterday did not appear to suffer from sloppy aggression. But I'm willing to wait and see if this was a one-off.
He got counter tossed off his own shot, attacked again and got tossed again, and kept attacking until the final whistle. And for the most part hasn't stopped attacking since.
Teske yesterday did not appear to suffer from sloppy aggression. But I'm willing to wait and see if this was a one-off.
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I'm willing to give Teske the benefit of the doubt purely on it being a Navy wrestlers - the service guys tend to be able to give anyone in the country that isn't super elite very tough matches (but they can also lose to guys ranked #97 at times).
But there are a lot of data points that indicate that 125 may be borderline to qualify this year. Expectations for more just seem unrealistic. But we are talking about a rsFR - at most places this is ok and development into a podium contender may take a few years. But this isn't most places.
But there are a lot of data points that indicate that 125 may be borderline to qualify this year. Expectations for more just seem unrealistic. But we are talking about a rsFR - at most places this is ok and development into a podium contender may take a few years. But this isn't most places.
I can’t remember his name but he seems like a real good one.
Those are valid points but I just wanted to point out that the first match in front of a big crowd isn’t always indicative of career success. Let’s cut our guys some slack. I think they deserve it.
I was just thinking about the guys who stepped up big in their first Rec Hall dual. Gardner, Keener, and Cortez all had falls in their first outing, I believe. I’m sure a few of our big time recruits too.
Also: Verkleeren and Kolat going way back. It’s always nice to start things on the right foot, but I think our coaches are a little bit more concerned with March performance
Also: Verkleeren and Kolat going way back. It’s always nice to start things on the right foot, but I think our coaches are a little bit more concerned with March performance
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I can’t remember either. The mark of my old age is that my mind feels like a big empty hall.
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This place may become worthy of being called cesspool east, if you guys keep picking on Teske.
Question is out there. Long way to go, but it's out there ...
http://www.statecollege.com/news/co...lpwwXLiGzBZlZ8u7AaTKkgNWNCu8AteD1yJX_DuqszyAk
