We were fools to not vote Bagwell onto OUR BOT.
Hopefully, that is an oversight that we will soon have a chance to remedy.
That is all.
Hopefully, that is an oversight that we will soon have a chance to remedy.
That is all.
The recent updates from Bagwell should serve as a reminder to us all.
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I don't know. He seems to be doing a great job as is. I fear that if he were on the BoT they would find some way to silence him or stop his RTK requests. Look how the 9 alumni reps have been pretty much silenced and isolated by the BoT now. Very different than a few years ago where we head from them relatively often. Now- not so much.
I understand your concerns, but I believe that in actuality a lot of the concerns you listed are exactly why he SHOULD on the BOT.
With respect to the Scoundrels being able to "silence him", or prevent his pursuit of the RTK requests, I feel very confident in saying that would not happen if Bagwell was on the BOT.......but I am sure he could address that much more definitively.
And, you're right, he is doing a great job. Incredible, actually.
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Bagwell is doing a great job at what he is doing now (pursuing RTK requests). However, he initially bought the BOT anti-football narrative and swallowed the Freeh Report hook line and sinker. He actually ridiculed people who wouldn't accept it (ie PS4RS). I know that a lot of people fell for it, but I feel better with people on the BOT who weren't so easily swayed and saw through the whole charade from the very beginning.
I know he said it wouldn't affect him at election time. He may be right. My only reference was in seeing the way Lubrano has all but disappeared from discussions here (other than generic posts like release the Freeh info the other day). Now maybe that's his choice for various reasons- I don't know.
What LOGICAL reasons would Lubrano have for maintaining a low profile NOW after being much more public previously? There aren't a whole lot of avenues to travel to reach a LOGICAL conclusion.
^This. More can be done to right the wrong from outside the BoT. The BoT is captured. The interesting thing about the BoT is how it selectively wields the "fiduciary duty" element as a weapon against those who want to learn more to uncover the gross breach of those who are entrenched. Bagwell serves much better not involved with that.
Do not question Lubrano or his motives at this point in time. He's doing what he needs to be doing right now.
Silly.
Whether he is on the BOT, in the US Senate, or a member of the Knights of the Round Table.........
None of that restricts his ability to continue his actions, as a citizen, to pursue righteousness through his RTK efforts.
None of that would - or can - take away his freedom to "go after the information".
Nothing "rogue" about it.
In theory you are correct. In reality, probably not so much. I'm sure the Executive Board could come up with some circular logic about fiduciary duty and exposing information harmful to the university.
How about he's in the middle of a lawsuit against the university, and his lawyer advised him to keep quiet, lest he say something that unintentionally hurts the case?
But he wasn't perfect as Mary Poppins, so he's not pure enough for you.
I consider you to be one of the best posters on this subject. A little bit of that has been diminished by this post.
It's not a question of "pureness." It's a question of judgment.
The fact is that if Ryan had been on the BOT in 2011 and 2012 he would have gone along with the majority. He would not have been a voice of dissent.
That being the case, I don't understand why Barry thinks that Ryan would've been a better trustee than Anthony, Alice, or Barb. Frankly, Barry's insulting the trustees who have been fighting day after day and year after year to right the wrongs that were done.
Thats news to me. I don't know how anyone close to PSU (or follows this board, fwiw) could accept the Freeh Report when it came out. So much smoke and mirrors, it seemed obvious it was intended to point in one direction and ONLY one direction.
I, like many, was fooled when the GJP came out. Up to that time, I never even heard of a GJP (much less read one).
If what you say is true, then he simply needs to explain himself for clarification purposes. People do error.
"Frankly, Barry's insulting the trustees who have been fighting day after day and year after year to right the wrongs that were done"
WTF?????
Are you out of your mind?
FWIW - Ryan ran for BOT in the year that Adam T won a spot (IIRC, if that is not true, mea culpa)
Adam T was a TERRIBLE choice for that position. I will make no bones about my opinion on that matter.....I said so at the time of the elections.....and I feel that way today.
At the time Ryan ran for BOT, he was clear wrt his feelings on the Freeh/BOT OG etc issues (again, that is as I recall.....if that is incorrect, mea culpa again).
If the Yudichak proposal ever is released from the purgatory down in Harrisburg, we will be afforded the opportunity to add three additional ELECTED members to the governance board.
I hope that Ryan will run for one of them......and I hope that he will be elected.
There is no doubt in my mind he would be a tremendous asset. Others may disagree - that is the wonderful thing about a democracy (as opposed to the controlling Junta that we currently have prostituting PSU).
But your comments - and I really don't know where they come from.....as I recall, my impression is that you've always been a very well-reasoned poster, so I just figure something must be getting "lost in translation" - are completely off the mark.
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If we were "fools to not vote Bagwell onto OUR BOT" that means you think we were "fools" to vote for one of the people now serving in an elected seat.
Go back and re-read the full post.......
1 - This was not about "who Bagwell should replace". Thinking that someone would be a great candidate/great asset is NOT in any way equivalent to "insulting" someone currently seated. That is just silly.
If you think the PSU football team would benefit from adding some "5 Star" recruit.....does that mean you are disrespecting all of the folks on the current roster?
2 - Yes, there is (was) an elected member of the BOT that I felt was a complete wasted vote......even though that has NOTHING to do with Bagwell's qualifications. You can re-read the post now if you are curious about that.....even though it really isn't relevant to the issue at hand
Rob Tribeck seems pretty full of himself and cocky. He will certainly be a better trustee than AT but he has set a very high bar for himself with his bluster.
Please do not confuse my recent withdrawal from posting as a sign of my acquiescence with the Old Guard.
As was noted by Blue Band earlier, I am in the middle of litigation with the University. Everything else is better left unsaid.
Have no doubt, I have not given up the fight. Not by any stretch.
As was noted by Blue Band earlier, I am in the middle of litigation with the University. Everything else is better left unsaid.
Have no doubt, I have not given up the fight. Not by any stretch.
