Yep Singleton looks healthy. I agree getting Martin a few reps. He’s a receiving threat as well, which we need.
Thoughts after rewatching Minny
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This game comes down to third down conversions - we were very bad.
I feel like the D always looks better in retrospect. They gave up 7 on the first drive then really just held Minnesota to 3 field goals. 9 of Minnesota's points came off of the special teams blunders.
Singleton played better yesterday…but he has consistently been outplayed by Allen. Run Allen between the tackles and he will excel.
By what metric? Kaytron's 16 rushing yards lead (with 1+ extra game) will be gone by season's end, receiving is not even close, and don't forget Singleton's kick return yards.
Agree about King. His helmet was ripped off 2x with no penalty called. Did not see what happened on the first one, but the second was a clear hands to facemask "punch" clear as day, not called.
Not even close Lando. Singleton has been far superior than Allen especially lately despite Singleton’s injury issues. Allen rushed 7 times for 10 yards on Saturday and looked slower than molasses in January running laterally.
Singleton, Allen, and Allar are good players but haven't set the world on fire this year like we hoped. I wonder if that increases the chances that all 3 will be back next year. If so, we could have a better team next season than we have this year. The only players who are locks to hit the draft this year are Warren and Carter.
Singleton has been better. That wasn't what was said. Watch Allen's first two carries. He should never run laterally. Very rarely should any back
What more do people want from Allar in this scheme?
In the days of Peyton Manning, Allar definitely would come back for his third season as a starter to gain even more experience and mature, especially since he now can be paid. Also, he's probaably looking at being drafted in the third round at best in this upcoming draft. However, I'm not holding my breath that he will come back.
I agree with all of that. Singleton looking healthy now and should be the featured back.
Lol at third round at best
#1. Transfer Portal - should reach out to Anthony Smith (central PA kid - Shippensburg) good size, can play DT or DE and looked good on Saturday
I totally agree. High draft picks at QB are thrown to the Wolves in the NFL. You've got to hit the ground running. Plus, while they can make good money, the slotting pay of NFL draft picks limits their income. If they get a second contract as a starter, four years in, they'll make generational wealth with a $100m+ contract.
Specific to Allar, he can make good NIL money next season as a 21-year-old starter. The other top B1G QBs are older. Bosmer was 23 as a sixth-year senior. tOSU's Howard is 23. Dillon Gabrial is 23. One of the strengths of our team should be the OL next year as well.
Bo Nix is the perfect example. He entered the NFL after starting in college for at least four seasons and as a very mentally and physically mature man in his mid 20s, and look at how he's performing as a starter in his rookie season; he or Daniels probably is going to win Offensive Rookie of the Year.
They need to retool the running game. Both backs can get to the outside. Off tackle, pitches, traps and more down field shots to Omari and Wallace would help.
My WVU grad mad PSU fan younger brother (I trained him well) and I just discussed Allar's decision.... He is still very young.... and still needs to feel free to let the long ball fly.
Singleton goes down too easy. He seems off balance when he runs in congestion. He can't and doesn't break tackles.
In space, yes he is special. But so are a lot of running backs.
When the Browns had the overall #1 pick and were drafting a QB, they had an analysis about the success of a starting QB. Basically, if a guy didn't start two full seasons, he didn't have much of a chance to be successful in the NFL. Now, I know Allar will have two full years under his belt but a third couldn't hurt. Plus, as you suggest, the physical and mental maturity goes way up.
Honestly, I was a little alarmed when Allar lost his marbles against MN. DDS tried to calm him down on the sideline. CJF had to go over and calm him as well. But to be fair,Ol' Miss's Dart lost his shit completely at the end of the game versus FL. He actually threw three INTs in a row (but the nose of the ball touched the ground when he came down in INT #2 so it was called incomplete).
None of our skill players except for Warren ever break tackles; I've never seen so many shoe string tackles on our backs and receivers, but especially the former, where if they break away from that tackle they probably gain an extra 10 or 20 yards.
After Dart threw the INT that was overturned, it actually appeared as if he literally was crying when he went to the sidelines. Then, he immediately had to go back onto the field and proceeded to throw another terrible INT.
It seemed like the pressure to make the playoffs really got to a lot of coaches and players this past Saturday, like Dart, Kiffin and DeBoer.
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What elite NFL QB have you never seen those their mind? That's part of what makes them great.
Last year, people complained that Allar was too quiet and reserved. Now he's pissed and people are mad he showed that fire even after he came out and ran a perfect drive following it
He wants to be perfect. That's what you want from a QB.
I’m not sure there’s a worse franchise to reference regarding quarterback evaluation than the Browns.
Dart 100% was crying but that's because he cares. How many times have we seen a guy cry after a big mistake or losing a big game? They put everything into it.
The issue with Dart was his emotions took over before they reviewed the play then he couldn't compose himself.
I agree. A QB is the emotional leader. He was put in a desperate situation but the time to cry is after the game not during. Fight to the end. Understand that it isn't about you, singularly. That is tough for a pampered QB.
I was somebody who posted this past offseason that Allar needed to be the clear Alpha leader of this offense and needed to take command, so I'm happy that he has been passionate this season, like during the Wisconsin game and this past game.
I keep hearing that Sean Payton actually is happy that Bo Nix challenges him about calls because he wants to see that in his qbs.
Yes, I agree, and that's why I said that the pressure to make the playoffs got to him, because his next pass was an absurd INT; he was in no emotional state to come back out and play. You have to balance passion and composure and he failed at that at the end of that game.
The last pick was the WR reading the defense correctly. It was an option route and there was coverage over the top so he sat down. Dart misread it...maybe because of the emotion. I think that's why we saw the full meltdown.
Aside from Oregon and Ohio State...is anyone great this year. We'll see about Texas the next couple weeks but Penn State is in tier 2 with ND and Texas. Almost identical resumes.
Georgia is tier 1.5 because you could put them with either 1 or 2...talent wise they're 1...results they're 2
I agree. Allar is starting to get on top of things with this offense and he is developing his leadership skills. If we can get him better receivers next year, I believe he will have a tremendous season next year and possibly develope into a first round pick. A year of further development and confidence will do him good.
If he leaves this year, I believe he will be taken in the 3rd round and possibly relegated to a backup role with scattered chances to start and show his stuff (see Mason Rudolph). Alternatively, he could have a great senior season and potentially increase his draft status, ala Kenny Pickett, and be given every opportunity to show he is an NFL QB. Obviously, Kenny Pickett didn't perform well enough but you need to look no further than the difference in treatment between Kenny Pickett and Mason Rudolph to see the advantage of being a higher drafted QB in the NFL.
IMO, the biggest question for Allar in his decision on whether to return is who would he be throwing to if he came back next year.
It didn't end up mattering but on Minnesota's last possession (where they ended up kicking the FG) on second down (I think) they ran a weird looking trick play that seemed like it was designed as a swing pass to an OL (Ersery). He was definitely covered up on the play, so unless the pass was backwards (it wasn't) it would have been illegal touching. Bad play design on that by Minny unless the OL in the flat was just eye candy and the QB was just throwing it away (because they didn't have whatever they were really trying to do).
I don't know. Given his weapons or lack thereof, Allar is having a very good year
I agree but I'd be surprised if he isn't in the second round. PSU gets no respect and people don't realize how weak our WR room is. But when he gets into the combine and throws the ball 70 yards and hits a few WRs on a rope 30 yards downfield that will change. If I were a GM, I'd take him over a guy like Howard (at 23 and not that mobile with great talent around him) or Gabriel (who is only 6' 200 lbs). I also suspect Allar will run a respectable 40 yard dash.
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