At least for the “most knowledgeable” posters, Franklin has an excuse now when we lose. We don’t have enough scholarship players.In the last two weeks..... potential members of the 2019 squad (almost all of whom could have been expected to make meaningful contributions) gone..... And none of them leaving in order to collect ”1st round NFL” paychecks:
Givens
Bates
JJohnson
Polk
SMiller
Sanders
McGovern
McPhearson
Wade
Darien
Franklin and Faison-Waldron and Humphries also within the last few weeks.
And - most likely - a few more to come.
Probably a good chance PSU goes into 2019 with fewer than 80 legit recruited scholarship players.
Whatever the reasons may be, those facts are nothing if not disconcerting.
There are more than a few PWO from the last few years who may be worthy.Any prospects in the portal to fill the voids?
At least for the “most knowledgeable” posters, Franklin has an excuse now when we lose. We don’t have enough scholarship players.
I could see Wade getting waiver if he is going to be closer to his son. Wouldn't be shocking anyway.Yes, unless someone within a 1/4 mile radius of them has ever uttered the word n*gg**.
Lamont Wade probably should have taken a red shirt. But, his 5star status probably led him to unrealistic expectations early. At this level, everyone has speed and quickness.......size he doesn't have. He needs to be a smart, savvy kind of DB and he should have taken a shirt to learn.
I think he also lacks speedBeyond size, I haven’t really seen an ability to play at a D1 level.
If the program didn't have so many stud running backs they may have switched him a while back.Beyond size, I haven’t really seen an ability to play at a D1 level.
The problem here is that PSU needs to develop a solid “next 22” to compete with the best. PSU’s starting 22 can compete with anyone. It’s the next 22 that separates programs like Clemson, Bama, etc. We need guys like Wade to stay and be solid backups and special teams players.
This is what concerns me - wtf is Franklin running down there that everyone is jumping ship.
In central Pa it’s more than likely everyone within a 1/4 mile radios has yelled n^gg*r. And they feel entitled to say it.Yes, unless someone within a 1/4 mile radius of them has ever uttered the word n*gg**.......
Or, if the program that recruited them with bags of cash - is later investigated by the NCAA for recruiting kids with bags of cash.
Maybe it speaks simply to the talent and the depth of the team.This does not show well for this staff.
In central Pa it’s more than likely everyone within a 1/4 mile radios has yelled n^gg*r. And they feel entitled to say it.
C’est la’vie. .
You can't desire to be Bama or Clemson and not play the game under the same circumstances. You want Big 10 title opportunities every year? You want to be in the playoff conversation every year?
This. Is. What. You. Get.
Grad players leaving isn't highly unusual. 2nd, 3rd year players who are #2, #3 on the DC? That is. In this quantity.
If you don't want to build for a run every 4-5 years, get used to this. It's been going on already. This year has just been the most active.
Diogenes has found his honest man. The first of us that admits he wasn’t a superstar when he played.Good for these guys. They'll get a chance to see playing time elsewhere. These guys are competitors, love football and want to get a chance to fill a spot on another team where needed. Has to be difficult when they giving all they've got and still can't win the job. I've been in HS in that situation and it ain't fun.
I’ll worry when our best players enter the portal. Other than JJ, none has become a significant part of becoming elite.
The goofy face, , on message boards is now being petitioned as a reason to transfer without sitting out a year.In central Pa it’s more than likely everyone within a 1/4 mile radios has yelled n^gg*r. And they feel entitled to say it.
C’est la’vie. .
Maybe. But difference when the person in central pa says it with venom in their eyes and cross in the back of their pick up truck.Same in Philly. Except there it's a term of endearment.
I agree, it’s just that we’re almost elite.This is the result of CF's tremendous recruiting classes in 2018 and 2019. These guys could well play a lot at another school but won't play at Penn State. They have been aced out by the new recruits. This will be our new normal. CF will bring in 20 or so 4 and 5 star players who expect to start and play a lot. They all can't do that. The cream will rise to the top and the others will become disgruntled and transfer. Other schools with less capable recruiters will take them in and give them the playing time they covet. We should be happy this is happening. It is a product of CF's success in making Penn State an elite program.
As well as causing depth problems.Also it may indicate other issues. Spinning this as no big deal is delusional.I don't like this. These kids have the right to go where they think they have the best chance to start, of course, but I want kids who are willing to compete. I also want continuity year to year. You need guys with experience, even if they don't start.
In the last two weeks..... potential members of the 2019 squad (almost all of whom could have been expected to make meaningful contributions) gone..... And none of them leaving in order to collect ”1st round NFL” paychecks:
Givens
Bates
JJohnson
Polk
SMiller
Sanders
McGovern
McPhearson
Wade
Darien
Franklin and Faison-Waldron and Humphries also within the last few weeks.
And - most likely - a few more to come.
Probably a good chance PSU goes into 2019 with fewer than 80 legit recruited scholarship players.
Whatever the reasons may be, those facts are nothing if not disconcerting.
I’m a people, you told me to STFU. I am requesting an immediate transfer with a waiver.No poster knows how many more recruits CJF will sign in Feb. People need to STFU.
The problem here is that PSU needs to develop a solid “next 22” to compete with the best. PSU’s starting 22 can compete with anyone. It’s the next 22 that separates programs like Clemson, Bama, etc. We need guys like Wade to stay and be solid backups and special teams players.
The fact that we are unlikely to be at 85 ships next year tells me Franklin didn’t plan for this. We are at 77 or 78 by my count and Franklin doesn’t have 7 more blue chips signing late in February.
No poster knows how many more recruits CJF will sign in Feb. People need to STFU.
I still don't think its a huge deal.
Outside of Givens and Johnson none of these are shocking.
Some of these guys transferring were probably 3rd string.
I would also expect another TE to leave so dont panic when it happens.
Wow, this is getting ridiculous. We can rationalize this all we want, but the 2019 season is quickly going down the tubes. Polk is no loss, but the other 2 are, starters or no, depth is very important and so are special teams. I don't think Franklin can bring in enough quality recruits this year to fill out the roster.
Or how many we may GET via the transfer portalNo poster knows how many more recruits CJF will sign in Feb. People need to STFU.
At age 20 and 21, some of those birds leave the nest."Family," right? Until it ain't.
This does not show well for this staff.
Free agency, if it takes hold, will level the playing field for all but the top few teams. Teams like Clemson and Alabama can backfill "next 22" losses with anybody they want. It hurts teams like PSU that are good but not elite. Those teams will lose depth.
I agree. Don’t see Givens ad a pro. He was a nice player but not dominant. Doesn’t have the size to be drafted on measurablesGivens is the one that is utterly mystifying. Where does he fit as a pro prospect? He is too small to be a tackle in a 4-3 and too small to be a DE in a 3-4. Is he a good enough pass rusher to be a DE in a 4-3 alignment? He will put up huge weight at the combine, but he isn’t going to get taller. Why not spend a year working on a post grad degree before making the NFL attempt? Everyone else I can understand going.