tOSU - Indiana game thread
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Herbie really has to say how tough and resilient OSU has been and they at least aren't playing a MAC team at home. Hmmm. Sounds like we may be in someone's head
Even if this is true, two receivers doesn't make the best group. Give me 5 or 6 strong receivers over two great ones and four average ones. And he also talked about Indiana's QB being the best...better than the returning top QB in the Big. It was a stupid comment no matter how you slice it. Next he will be saying Dobbins is the best RB in the Big.
Its not about talking about nothing but psu, its just amusing listening to Herbie spew bs in order to explain OSUs piss poor performance after touting their invincibility all offseason.
Too many on this board seem to believe PSU could whip the Patriots this weekend. And this OSU team, that many have called over rated, could very well reach the 50s on the scoreboard.
It is way too early to make long term judgments. The Bucknuts are going to be very tough in the 'Shoe. They will be favorites for sure, probably by more than a TD, and will likely still have a zero in the L column.
It is way too early to make long term judgments. The Bucknuts are going to be very tough in the 'Shoe. They will be favorites for sure, probably by more than a TD, and will likely still have a zero in the L column.
You mean like they did with Michigan last year because of all the talent they had coming back. Apparently PSU won the Big last year with no talent.
The announcer just said Ahia State now looking every bit like the #2 team in the land.
I don't think so!
And Herbie, my God he is insufferable they way he goes on gushing about Ahia State. Start a petition to ban him from calling Ahia State games. Please! Something's gotta be done.
I don't think so!
And Herbie, my God he is insufferable they way he goes on gushing about Ahia State. Start a petition to ban him from calling Ahia State games. Please! Something's gotta be done.
Lagow starts feeling the pressure he makes mistakes and even though indiana has a few players its not enough.Difference between low three star players and four stars shows up eventually.
It is what it is, we just have to go out and beat them ourselves... They have vulnerbilities and we have a much better O Line and D Line than Indiana.
Somewhere in the mumble-jumble of hero-worshipping I THINK Herbie said IU had the best PRO style QB / wide receiver combo.
Since Trace is a run and gun option QB AND his statement excluded the best TE in the Big 10(14) by referring to only wide receivers, he might technically be right.....but I hope his spin is spun right back in his face on October 28th.
I think his "homerism" has gotten out-of-control in the last year. Sad, I thought he used to do a pretty decent job. Not any more.
Since Trace is a run and gun option QB AND his statement excluded the best TE in the Big 10(14) by referring to only wide receivers, he might technically be right.....but I hope his spin is spun right back in his face on October 28th.
I think his "homerism" has gotten out-of-control in the last year. Sad, I thought he used to do a pretty decent job. Not any more.
....and the best news to emerge from this evening: FOX will be broadcasting PSU-OSU. No Herbie and the ESPN tool bags.
That's the way I heard it too....a left-handed jab at PSU. Lost all respect for Herbie.
How does herbie speak so clearly while slurping so many tosu cocks at a time?
Indiana is a 1 dimensional offense. I wasn't impressed with tO$U or IU...
Worst thing about tonight is that I'm going to have to wake up (hopefully) a couple of times to squirt out the beer. Would have been more enjoyable if IN had won at least.
And for the record, if I ever see that Dr Pepper doofus, I'm going to kick him in the nuts with gusto.
Ha ha, the chick just told everyone the Iu coach' WIFI password. Everyone jump on if you're in the neighborhood.
A few thoughts from an OSU fan:
The final score notwithstanding it was not a very pretty win.
Having said that I did like the adjustments that were made on both sides of the ball at halftime.
Dobbins looks really good. Yes it was his first game and he is a true freshman
That comment by Herbie about the IU QB/WR combination being the best that OSU will see all year is my early nominee for the most stupid comment of the year. OSU still has to face Trace McSorley AND Baker Mayfield. Enough said about that.
Wishing PSU a great season (except Oct 28 of course)
The final score notwithstanding it was not a very pretty win.
Having said that I did like the adjustments that were made on both sides of the ball at halftime.
Dobbins looks really good. Yes it was his first game and he is a true freshman
That comment by Herbie about the IU QB/WR combination being the best that OSU will see all year is my early nominee for the most stupid comment of the year. OSU still has to face Trace McSorley AND Baker Mayfield. Enough said about that.
Wishing PSU a great season (except Oct 28 of course)
And, Van Pelt praised OSU for a great comeback win....really, OSU was down 1 point at the half.
I'm sure you are probably right. I mean it's not like any teams other than PSU are playing a MAC team at home this weekend...well, other than Minnesota...and Michigan State...and Illinois.
That said, not an impressive start despite the final score. But, I think it was some old coach from PA who used to say you improve the most between week 1 and week 2. I think OSU is going to need to improve dramatically to beat the Sooners, so we will see!
Which means we get Gus Johnson screaming "wizard of camelot" and "I don't think he got it!!!!!!! let's wait for the spot!!!!" on a 4th and 1 where the running back gets dropped 5 yards in the back field.
I used to be indifferent to Herby. Thought he was a good announcer but then the whole, Fluke win, Eye test and the way he just adamantly refused to believe PSU beat OSU that night really pissed me off. You can have that opinion and thats fine but when your using your opinion to manipulate the playoffs its flat out wrong.
Then watching and listening to last nights game I thought I was going to puke. I have never heard someone make so many excuses for the Barrett and the OSU team. At one point I thought OSU was playing a pro team with their all pro QB and all pro WR's.
Probably the most biased national broadcast I've ever heard.
It was pathetic.
+1.
Ok I get the Herby homerism but what's with the rest of the slurping by ESPN? Is it because Urbsy used to work for them?
I think you are correct.
It almost seemed to me that OSU was going with a game plan that Joe used when he had Rashard Casey,
Under no circumstances was Barrett to run in the first half.
After Urbs saw the writing on the wall he or Wilson opened it up in the second half and let JT run and that was the difference.
Couple of take aways from the first game.
I'm not impressed with OSU's OL, QB or WR's. I did like Dobbins and the OSU DL looks pretty good but not nearly as good as I was led to believe. And what was Greg Schiano smoking when he said its the best DLine he's ever seen including the NFL. WTF?.
I'm going to avoid the rush and start hating the OSU DB's now. Holy crap they are grabbier than Michy's or Pitts. Frankly I thought a flag could have been thrown and should have been thrown on them every time.
I was impressed with Indy but thought their HC made some really boneheaded moves. Inserting the freshman QB in the first half when IU had momentum was a killer and then the way he f'd up the end of the first half was bush league at best.
IU has some players though. I thought their WR's Cobbs Jr. was really good and the best player on the field.
Lagow is good but boy he get any kind of pressure and he folds and makes really bad decisions.
They have some nice players on D and a couple of pretty good DB's.
But their defense is not good enough or deep enough to keep up with the fast paces offense IU runs,
especially if it goes 3 and out.
I thought it was an interesting game but the Herby should be fined and suspended for the way he was
slurping OSU.
This board went crazy thinking about the lack of respect that Herbie was giving to Trace, but the Baker Mayfield comment is exactly right. OU has a better QB and WR package than IU.
IU played tough, not sure that I understand the thought process behind IU running plays so quickly when your first team defense is pretty good, but your second and third team defense is far below in talent than your starters. I have always thought that the better teams should run plays faster...(more plays, more opportunities for the great players to make a play) and the lesser talented team should milk the clock. IU's offense was effective, but they killed their own defense.
Enjoyable game......tOSU looks to be a very good team, could be a great team. IU will give someone Wisc, Nebraska, PSU an upset or at least make them work for the full 60 minutes.
Football is back.
When you are a 1 dimensional team you are easy to beat. You shutdown the weaker component (Indiana's running game) and then you minimize the effectiveness of the threatening component (Indiana's passing game). What Herbie and company forgot last night is Indiana focused on their passing game - they gave up running the ball in the first quarter. Once tO$U realized this they switched up their defense and minimized Indiana's passing game... IF Indiana's coaching staff would have been paying attention, they would have come out in a 2 back set and started pounding the ball and tO$U's d-line... maybe they don't have that capability (see PSU a few years ago) but we'll never know.
All I can say is IU's running backs didn't pick up a single blitz in the second half... not a one. Their O-Line couldn't move quick enough to pick up a blitz either. If you want to see how to beat IU - watch this game. If you want to see how to beat tO$U - watch this game. There are many, many weaknesses that can be exploited. tO$U won due to 1) superior depth 2) coaching adjustments. PSU is leagues better than IU, we have more depth and we have more quality depth. From what I saw last night I am not worried about either team. We can, and should, beat them both.
All I can say is IU's running backs didn't pick up a single blitz in the second half... not a one. Their O-Line couldn't move quick enough to pick up a blitz either. If you want to see how to beat IU - watch this game. If you want to see how to beat tO$U - watch this game. There are many, many weaknesses that can be exploited. tO$U won due to 1) superior depth 2) coaching adjustments. PSU is leagues better than IU, we have more depth and we have more quality depth. From what I saw last night I am not worried about either team. We can, and should, beat them both.
After reading some of the posts here, what I get is Obviously OSU is overrated across the board. They'll be lucky to finish .500 this season and really have no business being on the field with a juggernaut like PSU. Oh, and Herbstreit doesn't know anything.
My take is that OSU like most teams at this point are a work in progress. Where they need work is where they have the least experience- defensive back and WR. Barrett isn't a drop back passer, and never was, but if he can get in some runs and doesn't try to overthink the process, he has the ability to win as he has done many times in his career. He more often than not finds a way, regardless of his stat line.
PSU, Michigan, Oklahoma, will all be tough games. OSU may lose one or all, but they certainly have the ability to win all as well.
My take is that OSU like most teams at this point are a work in progress. Where they need work is where they have the least experience- defensive back and WR. Barrett isn't a drop back passer, and never was, but if he can get in some runs and doesn't try to overthink the process, he has the ability to win as he has done many times in his career. He more often than not finds a way, regardless of his stat line.
PSU, Michigan, Oklahoma, will all be tough games. OSU may lose one or all, but they certainly have the ability to win all as well.
In that Cleveland.com preseason poll, Ohio State received something like 29 of the 32 first place votes for the Big Ten East prediction. How many ESPN analysts predicted them to win the national championship? Was it 34 of 37?
Ohio State is supposed to be this unstoppable juggernaut according to the "experts". That is the standard that we are judging them on.
