Is it my imagination, or is there some weird thing going on this year with players jumping into the portal after the season started?
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Ohio State just had a Senior reserve LBer enter the portal today. His last name is Gant and he has already played in the first 3 games for OSU.
Where do these players go mid-season, and can they be eligible to play or do they have to wait till next season?
As someone posted in another thread, you can play in up to 3 or 4 games and use a redshirt year and transfer. If you play more than those games, then you use a year of eligibility and I think the only benefit is that you can start your transfer process earlier than say at the end of the season.
If they only play in 3 games they can save this year of eligibility. But my guess is that they believe they can start somewhere else, obviously are not getting the PT they want in their final year(s) of eligibility, and plan to use their last year next season someplace where they can legitimately start or at least have a more legit chance to start.
that's what's so weird to me. As between playing and not playing, I'd think playing would outweigh the "early start" on transfer negotiations.
Dallas Gant saw his snap count plummet after his woeful performance against Minnesota in the opener. He sees the writing on the wall that the younger players are taking his spot and he wants to get out to save his redshirt year. There's probably more of this happening since the redshirt rule was put in a few years ago.
Turns out the guys replacing him haven't been that much better.
Turns out the guys replacing him haven't been that much better.
They just don't want to use possibly their last year of eligibility playing on special teams or in a backup role. If they continue past the redshirt limit, or whatever it is called, they might just be out of eligibility and not get the playing time they desire. Makes sense to me, within the rules as they are.....
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Thanks for the clarification. I guess OSU decided better to let the younger players learn now and hopefully improve as season progresses than having a Senior take their reps.
My impression of last week's OSU game was the following: There may be some feelings of "entitlement" on the OSU team (similar to the malaise that struck PSU after the tuff loss to IU and OSU) last year. With Rice and Akron back to back, I think Day decided to shuffle the cards and let everyone "earn" their spot on the depth chart all over again. I'll bet the Rice score was a bit tighter than Day could have anticipated, but there will be no such phenomenon this week with Akron. Only time will tell if OSU emerges stronger from Day's experiment or the chemistry is just bad. Texas had a number of 5 stars who didn't pan out (in terms of team accomplishment) during the end of the Mack Brown era. If cost Mack his job. Every team needs brick and mortar. Too many guys with their eyes on guaranteed (so they think) NFL paychecks can scuttle a college season.
i suppose, though i also suppose there's a certain amount of delusion in there if they think that extra year starting somewhere else is gonna make a difference to their future prospects. See, eg, utah guy.
interestingly, i suppose this is the guardrail or safety valve against future stockpiling of players under nil deals like that at byu for walk ons.
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As far as I am concerned. Good for him. He was viewed as a talent in High School. Let him find a place where he can play and prove himself [or not]. Much better for him to find a place where he can play.
Defense against Oregon couldn't have been worse. Kerry Combs was a legend coaching first round NFL DBs. OSU gave him a shot. He couldn't do the the job as DC. Don't know whether mid-season change will work, but there is nothing to lose by it because team was going nowhere with Oregon defense.
Seems like a lot of failure was coaching. 2018 defense was awful. Hafley hired 2019 and with pretty much the same players defense improved very substantially.
How do they deal with academic credits? They are bailing mid-semester. Are they grad transfers? How do they get accepted at the next school?
We need a football minor league system to eliminate most of this nonsenses.
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It's all coaching right now. Most of the OSU fans are pointing the finger at Coombs but it goes farther than that - right up to Day who made the hire. Coombs is a heck of a secondary coach and recruiter but fails miserably as a DC
I’m not convinced Day is a great coach. Day fell into Justin Fields, Urban players, and an Urban coaching staff. Now Day is having to pick new staff and choose his own players. I’d say his D coordinator choice is suspect to say the least.
Not true with respect to staff. Total do over on defense, which was much better in 2019 than 2018, Urban's last year. Hafley was a particularly good hire. Also, don't think you are giving Day credit for very good seasons by both Haskins and Fields. Most recruits in the country do. Here is summary:
"By early January, Day had announced his full new staff, including five new assistant coaches while retaining several of the assistants from Urban Meyer's final staff. Day named Mike Yurcich as quarterback coach and passing game coordinator, Jeff Hafley as co-defensive coordinator and secondary coach, Greg Mattison as co-defensive coordinator, Al Washington as linebackers coach and Matt Barnes as special teams coordinator and assistant secondary coach."
"https://247sports.com/college/ohio-...ke-Yurcich-Matt-Barnes-129310379/#129310379_1"
He tried to be loyal to Combs and get Combs recruits and it turned out to be a bad hire.
Day deservedly should be criticized for Combs but praised for Hafley who was pulled out of nowhere from the NFL.
I’m not suggesting Day is a bad coach. I’m just pointing out he had a stud QB, stacked roster, and lot of good staff land in his lap. I’m just saying jury’s out on “great”.
I agree with that. However, one thing Day doesn't get credit for is not losing to grossly inferior teams as did Urban in his last 2 years. I think there is substantial support for Day being a very good coach, but we will see this year (mostly written off by me. Don't see how defense whose scheme was flawed can be saved mid year when the Big Ten appears to have several very good teams).
You do have to give Day credit for having 4 Maseratis on offense, his 3 receivers and Henderson and a very good offensive line. Unfortunately, he has a rookie qb directing the Maseratis.
How can people act like the defense took some giant leap from '18 to '19?
The Buckeyes lost one game both years. While the '19 version might be statistically better, you don't go 13-1 and have defense as your problem.
My biggest question about this year's team: did the defense look good against the offense during the spring and fall? Certainly with the offensive talent they have, this defense had to be showing some serious warts.
The Buckeyes lost one game both years. While the '19 version might be statistically better, you don't go 13-1 and have defense as your problem.
My biggest question about this year's team: did the defense look good against the offense during the spring and fall? Certainly with the offensive talent they have, this defense had to be showing some serious warts.
Coker had something like a 55 -- 12 record and was fired mainly because his players were undisciplined and getting in fights. Also, I doubt that he recruited as well as Day has. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Coker
In 2018 they gave up a huge number of over 50 yard plays. In one game a nobody quick guy ran for something like 270 yards and the next game had something like 30 yards. Until maybe this year, maybe worst OSU defense in history. In second to last regular season game, gave up more than 50 points to a crummy Maryland team and converted a 4th and 1 pass to a tight end who had caught about 7 passes (give lots of props for Urban on that call) to save the game in last minute or two. Truly awful defense.
In 2019 season after Clemson barely won BCS game Clemson coaches and players were highly complimentary of OSU Hafley defense. One Clemson coach said OSU defense hit so hard that coaches woke up the next day feeling sore.
If you had a football minor league system then Penn Stare football as you know it would not exist.
I'm interested to see how PSU's defense will hold up to a team like Oregon. So far we've played teams that focus on a powerful running attack. Oregon threw the ball quickly and in all directions.
If the players need the credits, then many players will stay enrolled in their academic classes even though they have left the football team. But if the players don’t need the credits, then they may choose to withdraw from the university altogether.
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