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Football 2025 Transfer Portal Thread

This year so far, 14 games with 18 total receptions, averaging 20.4 receiving yards per game. This isn't a Freshman. It is a Redshirt Junior. His Redshirt Sophomore season -- 10 catches for 130 yards. His Redshirt Freshman season -- 8 catches for 89 yards. He isn't going to get better, and he will have the same impact next year that he has had this year and the previous years -- almost none. Time to get on with his life's calling.
I get your point here but it's not like we have elite guys behind him. He's still the only WR I trust against a zone defense
 
You have 2 transfer WRs that come in that will be ahead of him. Even the freshman such as Denmark will pass him. Where’s that leave Clifford? Not even close to playing time.
Two WRs outside the top 30 in the portal aren't necessarily ahead of him. They hopefully are but Fleming had more upside than both and that flopped.
Why are you sure Denmark passes him?
I'm all for Clifford leaving but we also likely need 8 portal guys because Wallace is the only guy that should be back.
 
What did Evans say on his tweet? He has been a good number 2 and gives us some real speed on the outside.
No offense to any PSU commits but why can't we land a top WR, especially with Allar announcing his return? Why can't PSU do better than the 34th highest ranked WR?
 
Punt returner for 1st 4 games, then never touched the field again.
I won't crack on college kids who came here before NIL made them pros. That being said, Kaden never lived up to the huge expectations placed on him during his recruitment. Maybe all commits should begin on the same level field of hopeful expectations, not a foregone sure enough gonna be a superhero expectation.
 
Yet you Trust a guy barely averaging over 1 catch/ game. Clifford is free to stay on the team next year but he’s just not going to play much if he does.
I don't trust either. We need to get a legit WR in a portal--not too mid-tier guys which we already have.
Other than Wallace--we still don't have a guy that should be a starter going into next year. You trust Hudson--for absolutely no reason.
Glad we added guys to compete for playing time but we've whiffed on everyone that could have made a difference.
 
They hopefully are but Fleming had more upside than both and that flopped.
Fleming's upside got lower every year. Most who followed him through HS called it while he was a Buckeye (peaked in HS, was older than the other kids, shoulder injuries hurt him), but a lot seemed to overlook it when he "came home". Without him, we probably lose USC and aren't in the playoff so he's been valuable. He just has never at any time lived up to 5* hype.

I'd say realistically, the guys we're bringing in are at least coming off productive years. We got Fleming off his worst non-Fr OSU year.

No offense to any PSU commits but why can't we land a top WR, especially with Allar announcing his return? Why can't PSU do better than the 34th highest ranked WR?

Because we've not spent the big money on the high end ones and Hartline beats us out for any in our recruiting footprint due to his track record.

I won't crack on college kids who came here before NIL made them pros. That being said, Kaden never lived up to the huge expectations placed on him during his recruitment. Maybe all commits should begin on the same level field of hopeful expectations, not a foregone sure enough gonna be a superhero expectation.

OSU called him a DB. We should have listened. Top 60ish recruit. Played like a top 750ish one.

Note to staff, if Hartline doesn't offer an OSU kid, we probably don't need to either. Like Evans, a HS Wildcat QB who looked good in shorts at camps.

If we aren't going to buy the top 100 kids, let's at least recruit kids with HS stats catching the ball. No more athletes, no more Wing T WRs with 17 catches over 2 year types. Actual WRs. Our S&C is pretty good, speed em up and muscle em down later. Get some hands first.
 
No offense to any PSU commits but why can't we land a top WR, especially with Allar announcing his return? Why can't PSU do better than the 34th highest ranked WR?
Because we're still not a pass heavy offense. Every kid sees this as a running team that throws to their TE. Top kids want to go somewhere they're have a lot of targets not a couple opportunities a game to make a play.
Singleton and Allen, if they return, are still going to be the focus of the offense. One of many reasons Allar’s decision doesn’t make sense for his development.
 
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Whats crazy is I was watching the K State game and Dante Ceuphus is playing - had to look it up he is 23 and on third school. Crazy
 
Because we're still not a pass heavy offense. Every kid sees this as a running team that throws to their TE. Top kids want to go somewhere they're have a lot of targets not a couple opportunities a game to make a play

Right here. This too.
 
Classic chicken or the egg conundrum. 😂 But I think it's mainly that you can't see any positive coaching results by Hagans. Like who has he really been able to develop? So then why would a highly touted WR who has their sites on the NFL go to Penn State?
Olamide Zaccheus is probably his best example and...meh
 
No offense to any PSU commits but why can't we land a top WR, especially with Allar announcing his return? Why can't PSU do better than the 34th highest ranked WR?


Sounds like you dont follow recruiting.

We have 7 WRs committed with at least one 4 star.
 
Classic chicken or the egg conundrum. 😂 But I think it's mainly that you can't see any positive coaching results by Hagans. Like who has he really been able to develop? So then why would a highly touted WR who has their sites on the NFL go to Penn State?


Hagans was hired in February. It was basically two years before his recruits were even on campus.


Does it bother you that the DL commits recruited by Deion Barnes have not started a single game?

Were you one of the guys who wanted to fire Phil Trautwein a couple years ago?
 
Hagans was hired in February. It was basically two years before his recruits were even on campus.


Does it bother you that the DL commits recruited by Deion Barnes have not started a single game?

Were you one of the guys who wanted to fire Phil Trautwein a couple years ago?
It's too bad he's only allowed to coach his own recruits. I'm sure that the lack of WR development over the last 2 years has nothing to do with him.
 
It's too bad he's only allowed to coach his own recruits. I'm sure that the lack of WR development over the last 2 years has nothing to do with him.


It is mostly about recruiting with WR. Which 3 star did Hartline ever develop? He has 5* busts. Why didn't he develop Fleming?

If you think it is about development then why do you cry about missing out on highly ranked players? Why do you even care about recruiting?
 
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Hagans was hired in February. It was basically two years before his recruits were even on campus.


Does it bother you that the DL commits recruited by Deion Barnes have not started a single game?

Were you one of the guys who wanted to fire Phil Trautwein a couple years ago?
I would say the difference is Barnes’ D-Line and Trautwein’s O-Line has produced at an elite level. They have both shown they can coach. What can Hagans hang his hat on? Look, we all want him to succeed but at this level you produce or you are out. Hagans has about another year to produce something. He has an NFL caliber QB throwing to his guys. At least one of them needs to show out.
 
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Classic chicken or the egg conundrum. 😂 But I think it's mainly that you can't see any positive coaching results by Hagans. Like who has he really been able to develop? So then why would a highly touted WR who has their sites on the NFL go to Penn State?

I can see that. Wallace so far is it. Low 3* who is outplayed his ranking best I remember.

If I'm a WR, my choices would be:

1. LSU- drafted and stars in the league
2. OSU- drafted and rostered, but they haven't become NFL stars nowhere near LSU level
3. Everybody else
 
Sounds like you dont follow recruiting.

We have 7 WRs committed with at least one 4 star.
One 4* has you excited?

I'm looking for an elite WR who has already proved himself at this level and can step in and make an immediate impact next year. Don't you think a program like PSU should be able to get a top 10 WR?
 
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I would say the difference is Barnes’ D-Line and Trautwein’s O-Line has produced at an elite level. They have both shown they can coach. What can Hagans hang his hat on? Look, we all want him to succeed but at this level you produce or you are out. Hagans has about another year to produce something. He has an NFL caliber QB throwing to his guys. At least one of them needs to show out.

The players recruited by Barnes have yet to start a game and very little production.

Two years ago there were fans who wanted to fire trautwein.
 
One 4* has you excited?

I'm looking for an elite WR who has already proved himself at this level and can step in and make an immediate impact next year. Don't you think a program like PSU should be able to get a top 10 WR?

Do you even follow recruiting? Players all start out unranked and go from there. Saquon was a 3 * when he committed to rutgers.

We have some good WRs committed. Guilford was o$ered by osu. Osu has signed zero 3 stars in the last 6 years years. Guilford will be a 4*. Rodgers will be a high 4*
 
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Do you even follow recruiting? Players all start out unranked and go from there. Saquon was a 3 * when he committed to rutgers.

We have some good WRs committed. Guilford was o$ered by osu. Osu has signed zero 3 stars in the last 6 years years. Guilford will be a 4*. Rodgers will be a high 4*
The objective is to get the elite kids not hope you turn others into elite kids
And it doesn't matter what their rating is when Rutgers signed them. By the time we got Saquon he wasn't a 3 star kid.
 
The objective is to get the elite kids not hope you turn others into elite kids
And it doesn't matter what their rating is when Rutgers signed them. By the time we got Saquon he wasn't a 3 star kid.

No.. saquon was a 3 when we flipped him. Josh adams and Robinson were 4s.

My point was the early rankings are not that important.
 
No.. saquon was a 3 when we flipped him. Josh adams and Robinson were 4s.

My point was the early rankings are not that important.
Let's roll with "early ranking aren't that important"---we can agree on that
We disagree that we're bringing in the best talent. See the past few classes--as others have pointed out--we keep trying to make kids into WRs that aren't WRs. Lots of things have to change and the biggest issue--even in the portal we can't convince any of the top 33 guys to come here. We settled for two mid-tier WRs like what we already have on the roster. We need a top tier kid especially with Wallace leaving. I like Reynolds but Reynolds is unlikely to be Warren--like everyone on every team is unlikely.
 
The players recruited by Barnes have yet to start a game and very little production.

Two years ago there were fans who wanted to fire trautwein.
Coaching is an important part of what a coach does. Trautwein has taken kids who weren’t five stars and turned them into one of the best lines in the country. Barnes has had some top recruits and they are playing like that. Hagans has shown nothing. Let’s hope that changes, but it’s reasonable to expect more, particularly when one of our top rivals has the best WR coach in the business.
 
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