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Football 2025 Transfer Portal Thread

Jaden Rashada back in the portal...so Miami, Arizona State and Georgia plus...going into his third year--might set a record. Maybe he'll sue Georgia for NIL money too.
 
I'm stating that they aren't proven WRs that require a ton of coaching and the star rating is based on potential whereas Ohio State and others are bringing in kids that have shown the ability to succeed at the position. We like projects.


Nobody said we like projects. PSU offered the 5* WRs and they went to OSU. Now what? Do you think they should sign nobody or sign the best available?

It only takes ONE of them to be a #1. A number #1 improves the whole room and bumps everyone down one spot. Even when PSU had really good WRs we really only had a couple really good WRs. The bottom 5-10 of the room and most rooms do nothing. OSU has the best WR room and they have 4 WRS with over 5 catches. OSU only has three with over 13 catches.
 
Nobody said we like projects. PSU offered the 5* WRs and they went to OSU. Now what? Do you think they should sign nobody or sign the best available?

It only takes ONE of them to be a #1. A number #1 improves the whole room and bumps everyone down one spot. Even when PSU had really good WRs we really only had a couple really good WRs. The bottom 5-10 of the room and most rooms do nothing. OSU has the best WR room and they have 4 WRS with over 5 catches. OSU only has three with over 13 catches.
Fleming was #3 at OSU. He's #6 at PSU.
 
Nobody said we like projects. PSU offered the 5* WRs and they went to OSU. Now what? Do you think they should sign nobody or sign the best available?

It only takes ONE of them to be a #1. A number #1 improves the whole room and bumps everyone down one spot. Even when PSU had really good WRs we really only had a couple really good WRs. The bottom 5-10 of the room and most rooms do nothing. OSU has the best WR room and they have 4 WRS with over 5 catches. OSU only has three with over 13 catches.
That's fair--maybe we don't "like" products but that's what we get and we haven't RECENTLY shown the ability to develop them.
We absolutely need a #1--sadly that has to come from the portal right now.
And #1 isn't just based on numbers--it's based on the coverage the draw, the separation they create, the timeliness of their plays--see Ohio State--when it matters most their top guys come up big
 
I'm stating that they aren't proven WRs that require a ton of coaching and the star rating is based on potential whereas Ohio State and others are bringing in kids that have shown the ability to succeed at the position. We like projects.
Losing focus on the root of the issue. OSU has almost $8m more NIL and we use 80%-90% of our NIL for retention (that is directly quoted from the president of Happy Valley United, not wild speculation that dominates this board at times.) We are not bringing in a #1 wr with that NIL approach. That approach gets us primarily backups with lots of potential to develop in our system - see Rucci or Harris.
 
Losing focus on the root of the issue. OSU has almost $8m more NIL and we use 80%-90% of our NIL for retention (that is directly quoted from the president of Happy Valley United, not wild speculation that dominates this board at times.) We are not bringing in a #1 wr with that NIL approach. That approach gets us primarily backups with lots of potential to develop in our system - see Rucci or Harris.
Harris isn't "a back up"
He was a big get
We're spending more money than people acknowledge
 
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Fleming was #3 at OSU. He's #6 at PSU.
No way he was going to even stay #3 in that room that's why he's here and to be closer to home. At least he had a shot here to make a bigger impact, but it didn't happen here either. He's a great down field blocker which is now his claim to fame and a need actually.
 
Harris isn't "a back up"
He was a big get
We're spending more money than people acknowledge
Harris was definitely a big get but I think limited NIL still prevented us from getting a top WR. Why else wouldn't a top team with Allar at QB be able to get a top 15 portal WR for 2024? Why haven't we been able to get a top 30 portal WR for 2025?
 
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Harris was definitely a big get but I think limited NIL still prevented us from getting a top WR. Why else wouldn't a top team with Allar at QB be able to get a top 10 portal WR?
Because of our scheme?
Kids don't want to play in an offense that's going to run the ball 25+ times a game when they can go somewhere that will throw it 50.
Also, maybe they have people telling them Allar won't be back--other coaches lie
 
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Harris isn't "a back up"
He was a big get
We're spending more money than people acknowledge
Harris was a huge get but he was a back-up for Georgia. Rucci was a backup for Wiscy. We do not often get existing starters in the portal with our NIL approach.
 
Harris and Kimber are great additions, yet they were exposed against Boise State..Unfortunately the NIL is the wild,wild west and probably doing a disservice to the young athletes. Looking for instant rewards at the expense of long term stability.
 
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Because of our scheme?
Kids don't want to play in an offense that's going to run the ball 25+ times a game when they can go somewhere that will throw it 50.
Also, maybe they have people telling them Allar won't be back--other coaches lie

Not supported by the numbers.

OSU throws one time a game more than psu. OSU actually runs 33 times a game and throws 29. Psu is 38r and 27p.

Our scheme would look a lot better if Jeremiah smith or Marvin Harrison were making the catches. The development spin is so over rated. Why do you think top coaches put such an emphasis on recruiting?

It is a lot more than scheme because OSU probably outrecruits us àt every position the last 15 years. Even positions where psu scheme produces great players OSU can still outrecruits us.
 
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Harris and Kimber are great additions, yet they were exposed against Boise State..Unfortunately the NIL is the wild,wild west and probably doing a disservice to the young athletes. Looking for instant rewards at the expense of long term stability.
Exposed by Boise State. I’m going to regret asking this, but what does that mean?
 
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Not supported by the numbers.

OSU throws one time a game more than psu. OSU actually runs 33 times a game and throws 29. Psu is 38r and 27p.

Our scheme would look a lot better if Jeremiah smith or Marvin Harrison were making the catches. The development spin is so over rated. Why do you think top coaches put such an emphasis on recruiting?

It is a lot more than scheme because OSU probably outrecruits us àt every position the last 15 years. Even positions where psu scheme produces great players OSU can still outrecruits us.
With Howard--that's not their history--they're also viewed as uptempo--then you factor in the guys they have in the NFL
Of course our scheme would look better with them--it's Franklin's job to get them
 
Harris and Kimber are great additions, yet they were exposed against Boise State..Unfortunately the NIL is the wild,wild west and probably doing a disservice to the young athletes. Looking for instant rewards at the expense of long term stability.
King Mack may eclipse my career earnings by hopping around- but who knows?

If he coulda seen the future he may be playing Thursday night...

How much is enough?

Up to the kids (and their "advisors" who likely get a %- therefore corrupting their objectivity).

This is a mess...
 
Because of our scheme?
Kids don't want to play in an offense that's going to run the ball 25+ times a game when they can go somewhere that will throw it 50.
Also, maybe they have people telling them Allar won't be back--other coaches lie
Nah! Notre Dame has good receivers and they have the same number of pass attempts per game as PSU. OSU has about 1 more pass per game.

No school had 50 passes per game. Syracuse led the country with 45. Are you suggesting that they're getting the best WRs?
 
Nah! Notre Dame has good receivers and they have the same number of pass attempts per game as PSU. OSU has about 1 more pass per game.

No school had 50 passes per game. Syracuse led the country with 45. Are you suggesting that they're getting the best WRs?
We ran the ball 573 times this year to only 414 passes--when you're a run heavy offense you're not going to get the main guys
Again, Ohio State has Hartline and can name great NFL receivers including Harrison--they're going to get kids. They also throw the ball 46% of the time to 41%
Syracuse is seen as a fluke so, no, it won't have any impact to them
The top WRs in the portal want guaranteed playing time (we don't offer that) in a pass heavy offense (we don't offer that)
See Georgia getting Branch--they throw over 50%
I thought it was obvious I was exaggerating with the numbers but that's on me
 
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Nelson's another guy that might end up with 5 years and 5 schools
Matches his number of Stars.....

He may end up making Quintus McDonald look like an All-American.

USC to UTEP..... Wow.
 
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We ran the ball 573 times this year to only 414 passes--when you're a run heavy offense you're not going to get the main guys
Again, Ohio State has Hartline and can name great NFL receivers including Harrison--they're going to get kids. They also throw the ball 46% of the time to 41%
Syracuse is seen as a fluke so, no, it won't have any impact to them
The top WRs in the portal want guaranteed playing time (we don't offer that) in a pass heavy offense (we don't offer that)
See Georgia getting Branch--they throw over 50%
I thought it was obvious I was exaggerating with the numbers but that's on me
If PSU's offense replicates what Michigan did in 2021, 2022 and 2023 under Harbaugh, I'm fine with it. Michigan lost a grand total of 2 games in those 3 seasons, won 3 Big 10 Championships in a row and a National Championship and, most interestingly, beat OSU in all of those seasons depsite OSU having a much more talented roster. Also, the best wide receivers on those Michigan teams were Ronnie Bell and Roman Wilson, who are fringe NFL players at best. With that type of offense, as we all know, Michigan was able to win at PSU in 2023 without throwing a single pass in the second half.
 
We ran the ball 573 times this year to only 414 passes--when you're a run heavy offense you're not going to get the main guys
Again, Ohio State has Hartline and can name great NFL receivers including Harrison--they're going to get kids. They also throw the ball 46% of the time to 41%
Syracuse is seen as a fluke so, no, it won't have any impact to them
The top WRs in the portal want guaranteed playing time (we don't offer that) in a pass heavy offense (we don't offer that)
See Georgia getting Branch--they throw over 50%
I thought it was obvious I was exaggerating with the numbers but that's on me


Psu 414 passes.
OSU 401 passes.

414> 401.

Ps. OSU outrecruits us at RB too. They probably have a higher star rating at every position for the last 15 years.
 
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If PSU's offense replicates what Michigan did in 2021, 2022 and 2023 under Harbaugh, I'm fine with it. Michigan lost a grand total of 2 games in those 3 seasons, won 3 Big 10 Championships in a row and a National Championship and, most interestingly, beat OSU in all of those seasons depsite OSU having a much more talented roster. Also, the best wide receivers on those Michigan teams were Ronnie Bell and Roman Wilson, who are fringe NFL players at best. With that type of offense, as we all know, Michigan was able to win at PSU in 2023 without throwing a single pass in the second half.
It also helps that they knew what the defense was going to do on every play...
 
If PSU's offense replicates what Michigan did in 2021, 2022 and 2023 under Harbaugh, I'm fine with it. Michigan lost a grand total of 2 games in those 3 seasons, won 3 Big 10 Championships in a row and a National Championship and, most interestingly, beat OSU in all of those seasons depsite OSU having a much more talented roster. Also, the best wide receivers on those Michigan teams were Ronnie Bell and Roman Wilson, who are fringe NFL players at best. With that type of offense, as we all know, Michigan was able to win at PSU in 2023 without throwing a single pass in the second half.
No disagreement. Just discussing why top WRs aren't running to join the team
 
Psu 414 passes.
OSU 401 passes.

414> 401.

Ps. OSU outrecruits us at RB too. They probably have a higher star rating at every position for the last 15 years.
%...look at the percentage
Also, as discussed, when you have the guys Ohio State has in the NFL it's easier to sell them
 
Roman Wilson is not even a fringe NFL WR. He's been a ghost in Pittsburgh. He's had some injuries but even when deemed healthy, he can't begin to even sniff the field. And that's with the extremely weak Steelers WR room.
 
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