Jaden Rashada back in the portal...so Miami, Arizona State and Georgia plus...going into his third year--might set a record. Maybe he'll sue Georgia for NIL money too.
I'm stating that they aren't proven WRs that require a ton of coaching and the star rating is based on potential whereas Ohio State and others are bringing in kids that have shown the ability to succeed at the position. We like projects.
Fleming was #3 at OSU. He's #6 at PSU.Nobody said we like projects. PSU offered the 5* WRs and they went to OSU. Now what? Do you think they should sign nobody or sign the best available?
It only takes ONE of them to be a #1. A number #1 improves the whole room and bumps everyone down one spot. Even when PSU had really good WRs we really only had a couple really good WRs. The bottom 5-10 of the room and most rooms do nothing. OSU has the best WR room and they have 4 WRS with over 5 catches. OSU only has three with over 13 catches.
That's fair--maybe we don't "like" products but that's what we get and we haven't RECENTLY shown the ability to develop them.Nobody said we like projects. PSU offered the 5* WRs and they went to OSU. Now what? Do you think they should sign nobody or sign the best available?
It only takes ONE of them to be a #1. A number #1 improves the whole room and bumps everyone down one spot. Even when PSU had really good WRs we really only had a couple really good WRs. The bottom 5-10 of the room and most rooms do nothing. OSU has the best WR room and they have 4 WRS with over 5 catches. OSU only has three with over 13 catches.
Losing focus on the root of the issue. OSU has almost $8m more NIL and we use 80%-90% of our NIL for retention (that is directly quoted from the president of Happy Valley United, not wild speculation that dominates this board at times.) We are not bringing in a #1 wr with that NIL approach. That approach gets us primarily backups with lots of potential to develop in our system - see Rucci or Harris.I'm stating that they aren't proven WRs that require a ton of coaching and the star rating is based on potential whereas Ohio State and others are bringing in kids that have shown the ability to succeed at the position. We like projects.
Harris isn't "a back up"Losing focus on the root of the issue. OSU has almost $8m more NIL and we use 80%-90% of our NIL for retention (that is directly quoted from the president of Happy Valley United, not wild speculation that dominates this board at times.) We are not bringing in a #1 wr with that NIL approach. That approach gets us primarily backups with lots of potential to develop in our system - see Rucci or Harris.
No way he was going to even stay #3 in that room that's why he's here and to be closer to home. At least he had a shot here to make a bigger impact, but it didn't happen here either. He's a great down field blocker which is now his claim to fame and a need actually.Fleming was #3 at OSU. He's #6 at PSU.
Harris was definitely a big get but I think limited NIL still prevented us from getting a top WR. Why else wouldn't a top team with Allar at QB be able to get a top 15 portal WR for 2024? Why haven't we been able to get a top 30 portal WR for 2025?Harris isn't "a back up"
He was a big get
We're spending more money than people acknowledge
He's #6? We only really play four WRs--at worst he's 4--he's arguably 2--well I guess 3.Fleming was #3 at OSU. He's #6 at PSU.
Because of our scheme?Harris was definitely a big get but I think limited NIL still prevented us from getting a top WR. Why else wouldn't a top team with Allar at QB be able to get a top 10 portal WR?
Harris was a huge get but he was a back-up for Georgia. Rucci was a backup for Wiscy. We do not often get existing starters in the portal with our NIL approach.Harris isn't "a back up"
He was a big get
We're spending more money than people acknowledge
Fleming was #3 at OSU. He's #6 at PSU.
Because of our scheme?
Kids don't want to play in an offense that's going to run the ball 25+ times a game when they can go somewhere that will throw it 50.
Also, maybe they have people telling them Allar won't be back--other coaches lie
Exposed by Boise State. I’m going to regret asking this, but what does that mean?Harris and Kimber are great additions, yet they were exposed against Boise State..Unfortunately the NIL is the wild,wild west and probably doing a disservice to the young athletes. Looking for instant rewards at the expense of long term stability.
More like the PSU zone defense was exposed by Boise State.Exposed by Boise State. I’m going to regret asking this, but what does that mean?
Still doesn’t make sense. They let them do it until they decided to stop them. Jeanty was not going to beat them. I just assumed that was pretty general knowledge. Seams as if I was mistaken.More like the PSU zone defense was exposed by Boise State.
I wonder what he is majoring in. Hope the classes transfer so he can get his degree.Jaden Rashada back in the portal...so Miami, Arizona State and Georgia plus...going into his third year--might set a record. Maybe he'll sue Georgia for NIL money too.
With Howard--that's not their history--they're also viewed as uptempo--then you factor in the guys they have in the NFLNot supported by the numbers.
OSU throws one time a game more than psu. OSU actually runs 33 times a game and throws 29. Psu is 38r and 27p.
Our scheme would look a lot better if Jeremiah smith or Marvin Harrison were making the catches. The development spin is so over rated. Why do you think top coaches put such an emphasis on recruiting?
It is a lot more than scheme because OSU probably outrecruits us àt every position the last 15 years. Even positions where psu scheme produces great players OSU can still outrecruits us.
King Mack may eclipse my career earnings by hopping around- but who knows?Harris and Kimber are great additions, yet they were exposed against Boise State..Unfortunately the NIL is the wild,wild west and probably doing a disservice to the young athletes. Looking for instant rewards at the expense of long term stability.
Nah! Notre Dame has good receivers and they have the same number of pass attempts per game as PSU. OSU has about 1 more pass per game.Because of our scheme?
Kids don't want to play in an offense that's going to run the ball 25+ times a game when they can go somewhere that will throw it 50.
Also, maybe they have people telling them Allar won't be back--other coaches lie
We ran the ball 573 times this year to only 414 passes--when you're a run heavy offense you're not going to get the main guysNah! Notre Dame has good receivers and they have the same number of pass attempts per game as PSU. OSU has about 1 more pass per game.
No school had 50 passes per game. Syracuse led the country with 45. Are you suggesting that they're getting the best WRs?
Matches his number of Stars.....Sources: Former Boise St. QB Nelson joins UTEP
Former USC and Boise State quarterback Malachi Nelson, the former five-star player who was the No. 1 overall recruit in ESPN's Class of 2023, has committed to UTEP, sources told ESPN's Pete Thamel on Sunday, after entering the transfer portal on Dec. 12.www.espn.com
Nelson's another guy that might end up with 5 years and 5 schools
If PSU's offense replicates what Michigan did in 2021, 2022 and 2023 under Harbaugh, I'm fine with it. Michigan lost a grand total of 2 games in those 3 seasons, won 3 Big 10 Championships in a row and a National Championship and, most interestingly, beat OSU in all of those seasons depsite OSU having a much more talented roster. Also, the best wide receivers on those Michigan teams were Ronnie Bell and Roman Wilson, who are fringe NFL players at best. With that type of offense, as we all know, Michigan was able to win at PSU in 2023 without throwing a single pass in the second half.We ran the ball 573 times this year to only 414 passes--when you're a run heavy offense you're not going to get the main guys
Again, Ohio State has Hartline and can name great NFL receivers including Harrison--they're going to get kids. They also throw the ball 46% of the time to 41%
Syracuse is seen as a fluke so, no, it won't have any impact to them
The top WRs in the portal want guaranteed playing time (we don't offer that) in a pass heavy offense (we don't offer that)
See Georgia getting Branch--they throw over 50%
I thought it was obvious I was exaggerating with the numbers but that's on me
We ran the ball 573 times this year to only 414 passes--when you're a run heavy offense you're not going to get the main guys
Again, Ohio State has Hartline and can name great NFL receivers including Harrison--they're going to get kids. They also throw the ball 46% of the time to 41%
Syracuse is seen as a fluke so, no, it won't have any impact to them
The top WRs in the portal want guaranteed playing time (we don't offer that) in a pass heavy offense (we don't offer that)
See Georgia getting Branch--they throw over 50%
I thought it was obvious I was exaggerating with the numbers but that's on me
It also helps that they knew what the defense was going to do on every play...If PSU's offense replicates what Michigan did in 2021, 2022 and 2023 under Harbaugh, I'm fine with it. Michigan lost a grand total of 2 games in those 3 seasons, won 3 Big 10 Championships in a row and a National Championship and, most interestingly, beat OSU in all of those seasons depsite OSU having a much more talented roster. Also, the best wide receivers on those Michigan teams were Ronnie Bell and Roman Wilson, who are fringe NFL players at best. With that type of offense, as we all know, Michigan was able to win at PSU in 2023 without throwing a single pass in the second half.
No disagreement. Just discussing why top WRs aren't running to join the teamIf PSU's offense replicates what Michigan did in 2021, 2022 and 2023 under Harbaugh, I'm fine with it. Michigan lost a grand total of 2 games in those 3 seasons, won 3 Big 10 Championships in a row and a National Championship and, most interestingly, beat OSU in all of those seasons depsite OSU having a much more talented roster. Also, the best wide receivers on those Michigan teams were Ronnie Bell and Roman Wilson, who are fringe NFL players at best. With that type of offense, as we all know, Michigan was able to win at PSU in 2023 without throwing a single pass in the second half.
%...look at the percentagePsu 414 passes.
OSU 401 passes.
414> 401.
Ps. OSU outrecruits us at RB too. They probably have a higher star rating at every position for the last 15 years.