It's a fair point, but are we to assume he did actually grind for the Illinois game? I'm not buying that for a second and yes he is very calculated in EVERYTHING he says and does....so he does seem distracted. JMO
It's certainly instructive in identifying trends in how his teams perform after losses.
Zeise has had a gigantic hardon for Franklin since the latter declined to offer the former's son a scholorship. I think his son is still trying to catch Barkley and Hamler.Paul Zeise: James Franklin doesn’t have as much leverage at Penn State as he thinks
If I were Penn State President Eric Barron, I would have a very short, simple and one-sided conversation with Nittany Lions head football coach James Franklin...www.post-gazette.com
Did they win or did they lose? Did the go on to beat OSU or did they not?Did you not watch that 2016 Minnesota game? Let's be honest - we were fortunate to win. We were down 13-3 midway through the 3rd and absolutely spinning our wheels on offense until the Irvin Charles TD came out of nowhere.
Let's also not forget ... with better clock management Minnesota kicks a field goal to win the game instead of kicking that field goal to go up 23-20 w/ 1:00 left. Minnesota made mistakes in simply giving us the chance to tie it up and force OT.
That game very well could have been a loss. We looked VERY flat in the 1st half of Minnesota 2016. If we had lost that game, then it's 2-3 and Lord only knows how it could have spiraled from there. If nothing else, we would not have won the B1G that year.
Agreed, but as I said in a previous post to someone else....name something in that specific article that isn't true.Zeise has had a gigantic hardon for Franklin since the latter declined to offer the former's son a scholorship. I think his son is still trying to catch Barkley and Hamler.
Did they win or did they lose? Did the go on to beat OSU or did they not?
Interesting take. He must realize that the past two weeks have exposed him for reasons discussed here ad nauseam. He also must realize that if the rest of the season unfolds as it well might, said exposure will be magnified many fold.Agree with all.
I can't imagine how Ryan Day is going to pounce on this as evidence of "disrespect" to dial in his team even more. Obviously CJF wasn't disrespecting anybody, but he's clearly not dialed in.
He's teetering on becoming a broken man at the moment. He needs to dump the past few losses and move on. But he's not the type to do that.
Not good, Bob.
The spread doesn't have correlation to the so-called "eye test." Yes, in the eyes of the polls and playoff committee margin of victory can impact perception. Comfortable wins create a perception of a better team than a bunch of close games. But the spread has nothing to do with it. Had PSU beaten Illinois by 21 last week and not covered the 24 point spread it wouldn't have a make a lick of difference in terms of perception.I fundamentally disagree with you. The rankings of this sport and "perceptions" are intertwined into how you "look" and perform "ats" in games. If OSU simply won every game, after their loss to Oregon, would everyone be orgasming themselves talking about the "eye" test and how OSU is now a shoe in to the playoffs. ATS is actually a decent way to see how a team is trending and how much of a threat they are to get higher ranked or so on. Yes, ultimately wins and losses on the field will define Franklin's tenure at the school, but 3-22 ATS after losses is absolutely a statement to his preparedness and focus after a loss. Its irrefutable that Franklin's teams do not perform well after losses, I do think that says something about his performance.
Okay, so the counterpoint would be a team(there have been many) that consistently underperform spread and narrowly win games, usually termed "looked unimpressive." Where people put their money might actually be a better representation of a teams quality than herbsreits "eye test." 3 and 22 ATS does actually suggest that Franklin's teams underperform after loses. We'll agree to disagree i suppose.The spread doesn't have correlation to the so-called "eye test." Yes, in the eyes of the polls and playoff committee margin of victory can impact perception. Comfortable wins create a perception of a better team than a bunch of close games. But the spread has nothing to do with it. Had PSU beaten Illinois by 21 last week and not covered the 24 point spread it wouldn't have a make a lick of difference in terms of perception.
Even among the cesspool that is Pittsburgh sports media, Paul Zeise is garbage.
Are you saying his choice or let go because there’s no chance he would be firedThat may be, Joe, as I don't follow the guy and had never even heard of him before.
But every word he writes in the piece posted here is totally on target.
I think Franklin is history at Penn State. The only question in my mind is whether it will be made official before or after the end of the season.
The whole damn thing may be untrue.Agreed, but as I said in a previous post to someone else....name something in that specific article that isn't true.
Just curious. Where did you get this “Fumi wants to depart State College”?I'm getting the sense Fumi wants to depart State College, even if it requires a pay cut.
Agreed, but as I said in a previous post to someone else....name something in that specific article that isn't true.
The implication that the PSU administration cares as much or more about football wins and losses than fans do is absolutely absurd and even invokes a laugh. We are not talking about Jerry Jones or George Steinbrenner. Who really believes that "the administration" is upset? Has $ been affected? LOL, we are the ones who are disturbed by the loss, not Barron.That may be, Joe, as I don't follow the guy and had never even heard of him before.
But every word he writes in the piece posted here is totally on target.
I think Franklin is history at Penn State. The only question in my mind is whether it will be made official before or after the end of the season.
Are you saying his choice or let go because there’s no chance he would be fired
We might be skiing friends or neighbors? 🤷♂️Just curious. Where did you get this “Fumi wants to depart State College”?
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And it's always been no to that question. I'm getting tired of this crap. It's like having a player on the team who isn't fully committed in his effort.The answer is "no."
Appreciate your opinion.The implication that the PSU administration cares as much or more about football wins and losses than fans do is absolutely absurd and even invokes a laugh. We are not talking about Jerry Jones or George Steinbrenner. Who really believes that "the administration" is upset? Has $ been affected? LOL, we are the ones who are disturbed by the loss, not Barron.
His record ATS is meaningless in terms of his job performance. That's a metric that only matters to gamblers and sportsbooks.
I wonder if when the football is winning at a high level if the number of student applications goes up? If the applications go up does the average student academic credential go up and as such the overall prestige of the University go up? Do the donations to the University go up?The implication that the PSU administration cares as much or more about football wins and losses than fans do is absolutely absurd and even invokes a laugh. We are not talking about Jerry Jones or George Steinbrenner. Who really believes that "the administration" is upset? Has $ been affected? LOL, we are the ones who are disturbed by the loss, not Barron.