I was thinking the same exact thing when I saw this. These poll numbers don't pass the smell test.
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They do if you want them to be true, as opposed to thinking critically.
This is form the WHO’s COVID-19 guidance updated Friday.
The technical guidance, released later Friday, is equally cautious, noting “At the present time, the widespread use of masks by healthy people in the community setting is not yet supported by high quality or direct scientific evidence and there are potential benefits and harms to consider.”
they do go on to say they think it is a good idea as part of a comprehensive response. I am swayed by the fact there is no evidence it helps and that it could be harmful.
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I am more of an independent, I avoid wearing a mask if at all possible. In Maryland it is mandatory. I only go to businesses that I need to sustain my household...grocery store, hardware store, feed store, auto parts etc.
I avoid the mask because it is uncomfortable, I constantly adjust it and touch my face which bring germs to my face. Many medical experts doubt that cloth masks really do anything. For example, one small store I visited, the owner was not wearing a mask and told me to take mine off. She then said I bet if I squirt you with a water gun, it goes right through your mask. She is correct.
If I was sick, I would wear one, prevents the project coughing. In that situation I would stay home. Actually that would be a good improvement from these last few months, if sick stay home, no need to tough it out and spread germs.
Oh Please, it just not isolated to the far right. I will agree that racism has not gone away, the white liberal in central park who called 911 about the African American man who asked to put her dog on a leash. I bet she thinks she is not racist but she was scared to death of the black man watching birds.
My oldest daughter lives in North Carolina. I told a story of my first visit to see her to my liberal Hillary voting co-worker. In Walmart, talking to a black man with dreadlocks, notice he a pistol on his hip. My co-worker asks me if I was afraid because he would have been. I assume he thought the black man with the legal carry of a gun was a threat. I was talking to him because I had an Orioles shirt on and he had an Orioles tattoo. I was not afraid of him. See open carry and you quickly realize your not in Maryland anymore.
I do find it interesting how the left champions Planned Parenthood considering the intentions of its founder Margaret Sanger. She wanted the clinics in black neighborhoods to reduce their population, she was a big believer in Eugenics. Can't get anymore racist than that. Sanger's vision has been quite successful, it is estimated that over half of black babies are aborted.
Interestingly her brother Bob Higgins was PSU football coach from 1930 to 1948.
At this point, this probably belongs on the test board.
We live in MD and just got home from our first dinner at a restaurant since things were shut down. It was great. Place was 1/4 full, but the wait staff were very appreciative of the business.
3 weeks ago I went to WV for a haircut. Going to my first MD haircut on tuesday since covid19 hit.
Was kayaking in PA 4 weeks ago and caught a ton of trout with a bunch of friends.
Put a roof on my parents house that was damaged in a central pa storm 2 months ago.
This weekend going to OCMD.
Sons baseball practices commence this week. Football conditioning has been going on for two weeks. Daughters soccer starting soon too.
Moral of the story.....
Live your life, protect your family and treat others with respect and most days you'll be happy waking up and going to bed a night.
No no no. She was a white horrible person that was calling the cops on a black man hoping to strike fear in HIM. She was playing on the fact he probably feared what cops would do to a black man in Central Park. He called her bluff. But it was certainly an act of racism.
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Consider the source. That’s not my observation. Meet The Depressed has been ruined but F Chuck Todd.
Thanks for the update Dunk! I haven't seen you post in a while. And you have my condolences for having to live in Maryland.
Dude, Idaho is not on the Pacific. (Just like Pennsylvania is NOT in the Midwest.)
Did you know that Hilton Head on the east coast is WEST of the OH/PA border?
If the definition of racism is that no one at all has any idea what skin color someone is and it has not impact whatsoever on their decisions, then it will be here forever. I admit that is a lofty goal and it would be great to strive for and reach it. On a side note, I heard in a podcast that in the 60's about 4 percent of the people approved of mixed marriages. Now it is 87% (slightly higher than the golden number of 83%) I would think this shows an improvement in the degree of racism and people's views on race, but that it is not totally eliminated. Agree? Disagree?
It’s often lumped into the term “Pacific Northwest” which is the term I used.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Northwest#Definition
I was writing my post related to the wearing of masks just as I heard Meet the Press in the background quote that poll. If you don't believe the poll, fine. I just wrote what I heard. But I will say, when I go out, less than half the people I see are wearing masks. I've been wearing a mask for several months, and I hate it. But my wife would tear me a new a*hole if I went out without a mask, or didn't wash my hands when coming into the house - without touching ANYTHING. Those people who say this is just the flu really piss me off. When was the last time 'the flu' killed 108,000 people in 4 months? Probably about 1919.
Re: polarization. I read that Albania, a 3rd world county about the size of PA with 1/4 of the population, has had 50 deaths from Covid-19. Penna has had almost 6,000 deaths. Why? Because when the govenment told the people how to act in response to the virus, that's the way they acted. In America everyone has an opinion, and each is convinced his opinion is as valuable as anyone elses, regardless of such things as education or information.
Re: polarization. I read that Albania, a 3rd world county about the size of PA with 1/4 of the population, has had 50 deaths from Covid-19. Penna has had almost 6,000 deaths. Why? Because when the govenment told the people how to act in response to the virus, that's the way they acted. In America everyone has an opinion, and each is convinced his opinion is as valuable as anyone elses, regardless of such things as education or information.
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i know i'm late to the party here, but how did no one point out this golden slice of irony?
If you want to talk about wacky, one need look no further than the Battle of Gettysburg. Confederate (southern) forces moved north on the west side of South Mountain, then east across South Mountain to approach Gettysburg from the north. Union (northern) forces moved north on the east side of South Mountain to approach Gettysburg from the south.
Interesting. Tell me... are Albanian nursing homes set up like the ones in PA? Do they have nursing homes? With 1/4 the population Id assume that their population is more spread out than PA. I could go on and on but I'd be willing to bet there is more to them having less deaths than they are good citizens.
And there's a lot less cross-border traffic into Albania to bring in the disease. It's a bad comparison to Pennsylvania.
If you took a section of Pennsylvania with similar population density, how would its death rate look?
Of course, there are multiple ways to look at your statement. When the government told people to stick infected patients into nursing homes, that's the way they acted. And when other people objected to that practice, they were told shut up because science, education, and information.
Albania isn't the only example of countries that have controlled the virus.
Vietnam: 90 Million people, 0 deaths. New Zealand: 5 Million people, 20 deaths. South Africa: 58 Million people, 148 deaths.
Experts say all three nations took early, quick, and decisive action that included nationwide lockdowns and contact tracing.
So don't pull the "what about" trick. It's a loser.
I didnt pull a "what about" trick. Lock down may have had a huge part of their results. And I'd absolutely say that there are other reasons like physical traits, environment, and socioeconomic structures. If in any of those countries, how would they have faired if they would've listened to their secretary of health and moved covid positive patients into group homes of our most vulnerable population? I don't want nor do I need a politician to tell me how to live my life. I will take advice from all sources and make my own decisions for myself and my family. "Experts" as you call them are people just like you and I. Some good, some bad, some have biases, some have agendas.
"Experts" aren't politicians. Nor are they people just like you and I who have opinions. As they say, opinions are like a*holes, everyone has one. I consider an 'expert' in this case, to be a health care professional. Yes the health care professionals in America made some early mistakes. I don't know why. Maybe they were being pressured by politicians who wanted this whole thing to go away and not interfere with their re-election. But in other countries, apparently the 'experts' knew what they were doing from the start. And their governments listened to them. Perhaps there are environmental issues that mitigate against the virus, but no one has discovered those as of yet, far as I know. I'm not one of those Americans who think that my opinion is as good or better than anyone elses. Except for wrestling. My opinion about wrestling is better than most That I'll take to the bank.
An article I read states that:
Many poor countries with small coronavirus outbreaks took deliberate, early and decisive steps while those in the West wasted precious time dithering.
the available evidence suggests that developing countries have tackled COVID-19 not through luck or chance, but rather through the diligent efforts of their politicians and their populations.
Just sayin'
An article I read states that:
Many poor countries with small coronavirus outbreaks took deliberate, early and decisive steps while those in the West wasted precious time dithering.
the available evidence suggests that developing countries have tackled COVID-19 not through luck or chance, but rather through the diligent efforts of their politicians and their populations.
Just sayin'
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You have a good point about New Zealand. They have managed it well. I'd love to see apples to apples numbers (i.e., NZ has much lower population density), then understand the differences.
Vietnam, 0 deaths -- LOL. Do any Vietnamese people believe that one?
South Africa -- way to early to tell. It has lagged there relative to the northern hemisphere. BTW, RSA's travel ban is already thru Feb 2021 (at least that's what my South African sister in law told me on Saturday), which indicates they haven't seen the worst of it yet.
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You should have just said "white lives matter, too" here. It's like you haven't been listening at all over the past week and a half.
27 states are farther north than the southernmost part of Canada.
https://blogs.sas.com/content/sastraining/2017/08/10/us-states-north-of-canada/
I'm not sure that I understand the point you are making. The last time I checked, Rule # 6 does not make any distinctions about skin color or any other human attribute.
Just because there is a number of deaths posted, it does not mean it is correct. How many people believe the numbers from China or New York. We keep hearing how they are adjusting the numbers. I do not believe anything I read unless it makes sense and/or I can back it up with personal experience.
OH yeah, An article I read said that "you can't believe anything you read in an article" Now what?
If there's no wrestling this year I'm going to go nuts.
Speaking of nuts, has anyone heard from Lemonpie lately?
Speaking of nuts, has anyone heard from Lemonpie lately?
Everybody is lying. Why? Because of your understanding of the subject. Thata boy. The world is flat, the earth is the center of the universe and the sun revolves around the earth every 365 days. Why? Because of your understanding of the subject material.Just because there is a number of deaths posted, it does not mean it is correct. How many people believe the numbers from China or New York. We keep hearing how they are adjusting the numbers. I do not believe anything I read unless it makes sense and/or I can back it up with personal experience.
OH yeah, An article I read said that "you can't believe anything you read in an article" Now what?
Doesn’t have to be lying. Could be incompetence. Could be lack of reporting infrastructure. Many reasons. As for the examples you raised, they were all Settled science at one time. No one lied about those things either. Better information produced a better understanding. This is no different.
You've got that right. Last Monday, the WHO said that getting infected by non-symptimatic people who were carrying the Covid-19 virus was extemely unlikely. Tuesday, they said, wait a minute, it was kinda likely. Now no one is sure what the answer is. Take this anti-malaria drug that the President has been pushing forever and I can never remember the name of. I've seen studies that said it kinda worked. Other studies that said it killed the people being tested. Other studies that said it was ineffective.
With a virus this new, people are trying to reach conclusions based upon insufficient data. Often, it appears, their conclusions have been flawed.
As the world became round, the earth was uncentered and the earth began to revolve around the sun there were many who believed they were being lied too, because well they just knew.
The Enlightenment happened where “science” in name only based on religious quackery was replaced with more rigorous processes than tHe BiBlE sAiD iT
There is a huge difference between science learning, and non science using belief to dismiss science.
