What ever became of the old poster, Howard Stern?
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Wasn't he the poster that was a former law enforcement officer / involved in a horrific shooting ("involved" meaning being on the receiving-end)?
Wow that goes back quite a few years if I am recalling that correctly
I seem to recall him having something to do with McQueary being asked about an incident in the Lasch Building. He had seen some chatter about it on the social media at the time. Not sure, but that may have been the dynamite that blew this whole thing up.
He's still around, but doesn't post on this site.
I actually was in a car with him and one other person @ 5 years ago (could have been longer).
I actually was in a car with him and one other person @ 5 years ago (could have been longer).
Yes, he was a Baltimore cop that was shot and seriously injured.
Yes, he did play a role in the JS investigation -- he sent the email that ultimately lead to the OAG contacting MM.
Thinking more about it, that car ride was more than 5 years ago, as JoePa was still the coach at the time of the ride.
Yes, he did play a role in the JS investigation -- he sent the email that ultimately lead to the OAG contacting MM.
Thinking more about it, that car ride was more than 5 years ago, as JoePa was still the coach at the time of the ride.
I seem to remember him criticizing Paterno for not have doing more. The irony of a police officer hearing MM's story and sitting on it for all those years.
Very sorry to hear that he was injured in the line of duty and genuinely hope he is doing better. But as a poster on this board, he was a real jerk. Unless every post you made was uber-critical of Paterno and called for a total blowing up of the football program, he and another poster ruined every thread with their incessant "all is well". There was no room for debate or discussion. Was not sad to see him leave the board but sure hope his on duty injury was not the cause of it.
His real name is out there but I won't mention it. As I recall, he was the one who sent the email to authorities regarding the contents of a chat room discussion at FOS which involved the '01 shower incident. Mike McQ may have been one of the chatters though I'm not certain.
Also, though once again I could be wrong, I think he may have been one of the founders of Laschout along with at least one other FOS poster (NittnyLion or something like that). I also recall that he was very critical of Joe -- sticking around too long, that sort of thing. Just my memory, nothing I could testify to as certain (or in court).
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The message that purportedly arrived the day after Tommy Boy's coronation? Wonder if he has any connection to an assistant DA's (at the time) husband? IMO this was all a well planned exercise.
Views? He had one view, bash Paterno.
Howard Stern's wife posted on the McAndrew board soon after his injury. I think he lived in southern York county. Met him at the Big 33 game one summer, probably like 2004.
Cedar Cliff grad. Big wrestling fan, as well as football.
Not really the way it was as far as I remember. What I remember is that there was a chat room on TOS where certain people would go on and talk, mostly about PSU football. McQuery used to visit the chat room and it is the result of a conversation in that room that lead someone to report it to the OAG. I guess it was Howard Stern.
No one is a bigger fan of Joe - for over 40 years - and what he did for Penn State football, Penn State University, and the state of Pennsylvania than me. What Joe did and how he did it was incredible and we all need to recognize and appreciate his accomplishments. Be ut if Howard Stern felt Joe stayed on too long and the program needed to modernized, in all fairness, he was right. I believe he also began criticizing Penn State's recruiting efforts beginning in 2000. Again, and let's be honest, there was a pretty significant decline after the 1999 season and the wins/losses support his opinion..
Whether or not Joe stayed too long is a matter of opinion -- and perhaps even subject to debate (though not one in which I have any interest in participating, thank you).
But whether or not Joe is responsible for covering for a convicted child molester is a matter of fact, and the fact is the notion is pure fiction. A fabricated narrative. And Freeh's team, the NCAA & the Big Ten all know this.
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I was fortunate to work for an administrator who was not only great in that role, but took a real interest in his teachers. I worked about 30 years in various capacities under his direction and tutelage. Till the day he died at age 74 (I was 58) I called him Mr............... I was privileged and honored to know that he counted me among his best friends and even after he retired, I consulted him almost daily about the day to day challenges in my job as an athletic administrator.
More to the point, on a few occasions over our long relationship, I felt hurt and sometimes angry about things he did and said that impacted me in a negative fashion. After some introspection, I decided that on the balance, this man had nurtured and guided me as a young coach and educator and if I was accepting of his overwhelming gifts to me, I had to take the rare faux pas in stride.
So it is with JVP. I say bullshit when people say negative things. The impact that he had at PSU should be accepted in total for what it was and what he was. He was the greatest Coach/ Educator of all time. His career should be accepted and celebrated for what it was. He was not perfect. I believe Joe was often the first to admit his mistakes. I wish I could live another 75 years and see if anyone comes close.
More to the point, on a few occasions over our long relationship, I felt hurt and sometimes angry about things he did and said that impacted me in a negative fashion. After some introspection, I decided that on the balance, this man had nurtured and guided me as a young coach and educator and if I was accepting of his overwhelming gifts to me, I had to take the rare faux pas in stride.
So it is with JVP. I say bullshit when people say negative things. The impact that he had at PSU should be accepted in total for what it was and what he was. He was the greatest Coach/ Educator of all time. His career should be accepted and celebrated for what it was. He was not perfect. I believe Joe was often the first to admit his mistakes. I wish I could live another 75 years and see if anyone comes close.
He had no role whatsoever. I haven't spoken with, or seen, Marsh, in about 10 years. I have no idea what he's up to these days.
Pelly rarely posts in the Lions Den, but he will pipe in every so often. I can't recall him posting on this board in quite some time, but don't have time to do a Search to verify.
I seem to recall that as well. maybe someone can clarify.
and just out of curiosity, is there a practical reason we're not using his real name?
I don't disagree with you. But posters like Stern wouldn't allow any debate or discussion. In mocking people by saying "all is well" they were in essence saying "all is not well." And that was as ridiculous an assertion as saying all is well, which no one ever said BTW.
I have no Idea. I used to know what it was but don't remember anymore. FIrst name might have been Chris.
I don't recall his name offhand, but we all have seen it and know it. My reference to the Asst. DA's husband is also known to many.
I'm sure many of you have heard the story that serves as proof of the existence of God or a "Prime Mover?" You know the challenge of taking an alarm clock apart and putting the pieces in a bag and shaking it for eternity. Will the pieces ever fall into place and recreate a working device? Seemingly no and so how does one explain the universe without a Prime Mover?
Well, look at all the "working parts" of the Sandusky Case? I don't believe much happened by chance. Everything was orchestrated right down to the "anonymous" email.
Does anyone believe the reference to anal rape in the GJP was an honest interpretation of what MM testified to?Seems Eshbach actually said that with a straight face recently. She is despicable as well.
I know his name. it is public information. just trying to gauge if there us a specific reason we aren't using it.
I also know he had a connection to the Philly DAs office, or a couple connected to this case.
There is little doubt the timing of his "tip" coincided with Corbett securing the Governor election, and started the ball rolling on crushing Spanier and PSU . . .
All Is Well!!! LOL, he was critical but a good guy and hard core PSU fan.
board convention. we don't use people's names -- we use their board handles, unless they voluntarily provide their name.
Stern's name became public after he was shot, and also after Van Natta's article about MM was published. If people want to search for it they can, but I would prefer that it not be used on the board. That's a policy I have for any current or former member of the board community -- not because I've met Stern a few times or was in a car with him one time.
LOL, Respond if anyone here was on MCE's PSU football mailing/newsletter. That is real old school stuff!
I was. He was also in another Email group with me and a few others that used to post on here, sadly Carol was one.
He was CC with the CC being his initials.
The email group I was in with him blew up after he had an epic meltdown after the '99 Minny game.
He just flat out lost his mind. He never really recovered and then the whole Devlin/Clark QB situation pushed him over the edge.
In the end he was pretty much a raving lunatic.
If anyone really wants to pursue a conspiracy theory (every once in a while some on this board are accused of loving a good conspiracy theory), someone in state government told me quite a while ago that one of the first things Corbett did early in his term was appoint this poster's relative, brother I believe, to a post at a PA university. I don't know if it is true, or even relevant to anything, but I found it to be oddly specific.
Law Enforcement is a pretty solid fraternity. My guess is that information that may have been discussed here was passed on to someone with the proper "connection." The timing of the email could not have been coincidence.
he was in the same lodge as Jonelle Eshbach's husband.
