Why am I vexed?

[GOLDBANGER]

It seems every time I open up BWI all I see are BB posts since they are ranked #13. Is that such an accomplishment? We've been at the top of the national wrestling scene for a decade and all of a sudden basketball gets the headlines? Penn State Lacrosse is at #1, Hockey at #7, Wrestling #2 and our other winter teams are great, so where's the love? Don't misunderstand me, I love that the basketball team is having some success after quite a few years of mediocrity at best. Let's just have some parity on the main page shall we, although I've seen some hockey coverage, or am I just a bitter wrestling fan? What say you?

PS, It's seems it is the same over on the Iowa board too, I never see wrestling coverage on their main page.

 

[dsites52]

Short version, Pumpkin Ball is a "Big Boy Sport". Nature of the beast. At least we have Flo and their 24 hour coverage of Austin DeSantos.

 

[dunkej01]

I miss tim!

 

[CoastFan]

Wrestling fans (and I include myself) are as fanatical as any, but their numbers are much smaller than for basketball and certainly football. Even is the Mecca of high school wrestling (PA) I would guess that's the case.

The amount of live wrestling on the B1G Network illustrates the point. The B1G is far and away the top wrestling conference with second place being almost irrelevant (sorry Big 12, or is it the ACC? Anyone care?).

There are two revenue positive sports: football and men's basketball. That's where widespread interest is. I would hazard a guess that despite Penn State's incredible success in wrestling and the lack of success in men's basketball (until this year), that there are more basketball fans that wrestling fans among the BWI posters.

 

[GOLDBANGER]

Wrestling fans (and I include myself) are as fanatical as any, but their numbers are much smaller than for basketball and certainly football. Even is the Mecca of high school wrestling (PA) I would guess that's the case.

The amount of live wrestling on the B1G Network illustrates the point. The B1G is far and away the top wrestling conference with second place being almost irrelevant (sorry Big 12, or is it the ACC? Anyone care?).

There are two revenue positive sports: football and men's basketball. That's where widespread interest is. I would hazard a guess that despite Penn State's incredible success in wrestling and the lack of success in men's basketball (until this year), that there are more basketball fans that wrestling fans among the BWI posters.

I find it difficult to believe that men's basketball at Penn State makes money, just based on the success rate over the last ten years.

 

[GOLDBANGER]

Short version, Pumpkin Ball is a "Big Boy Sport". Nature of the beast. At least we have Flo and their 24 hour coverage of Austin DeSantos.

LOL...that is funny the Flo 24 hour coverage of Austin DeSantos!!

 

[NoVa Lion]

I find it difficult to believe that men's basketball at Penn State makes money, just based on the success rate over the last ten years.

TV money has the bball team making a LOT of money. Part of being in a conference where the money is shared instead of needing to rely on the success of our team.

 

[SpikingWhamos]

It seems every time I open up BWI all I see are BB posts since they are ranked #13. Is that such an accomplishment? We've been at the top of the national wrestling scene for a decade and all of a sudden basketball gets the headlines? Penn State Lacrosse is at #1, Hockey at #7, Wrestling #2 and our other winter teams are great, so where's the love? Don't misunderstand me, I love that the basketball team is having some success after quite a few years of mediocrity at best. Let's just have some parity on the main page shall we, although I've seen some hockey coverage, or am I just a bitter wrestling fan? What say you?

PS, It's seems it is the same over on the Iowa board too, I never see wrestling coverage on their main page.

Same reason the prodigal son got the party. When you've been a screw up for long enough anything positive gets graded on a curve.

 

[lionlover]

I find it difficult to believe that men's basketball at Penn State makes money, just based on the success rate over the last ten years.

The cold reality is that PSU basketball is the second highest profit maker while PSU wrestling loses money.

Put in a different way, PSU football and PSU basketball's success/existance helps to support PSU wrestling financially.

 

[GOLDBANGER]

The cold reality is that PSU basketball is the second highest profit maker while PSU wrestling loses money.

Put in a different way, PSU football and PSU basketball's success/existance helps to support PSU wrestling financially.

Totally agree on the financial part. But without Russ Rose and Cael Sanderson, who would the rest of the coaches want to emulate?

 

[dunkej01]

All I want really is what tim used to do is go to the pressers get the news and report it in a way that is not behind a pay wall.

@Tim Owen/BWI staff we miss you!

 

[lionlover]

Totally agree on the financial part. But without Russ Rose and Cael Sanderson, who would the rest of the coaches want to emulate?

Dabo Swinney and Coach K.

 

[NoVa Lion]

The cold reality is that PSU basketball is the second highest profit maker while PSU wrestling loses money.

Put in a different way, PSU football and PSU basketball's success/existance helps to support PSU wrestling financially.

Wrestling is getting closer to break even, which Cael has stated as a goal of his. The Penn State Wrestling Club is non profit so it donates the excess of revenues over expenses each year to PSU for the benefit of the wrestling team and that amount has been over $100K for the last several years and the amount continues to grow. Some time soon the hope is the wrestling team will financially pay for itself.

 

[lionlover]

Wrestling is getting closer to break even, which Cael has stated as a goal of his. The Penn State Wrestling Club is non profit so it donates the excess of revenues over expenses each year to PSU for the benefit of the wrestling team and that amount has been over $100K for the last several years and the amount continues to grow. Some time soon the hope is the wrestling team will financially pay for itself.

Hey, I am a wrestling fan and a Sanderson fan. I am not complaining. That said, I have read that PSU men's basketball generates a $5.5 million dollar a year profit.

https://www.centredaily.com/sports/college/penn-state-university/article155553354.html

 

[johnstownsteel]

Not bitter at all. I agree it is disappointing and certainly miss Tim. He was THE BWI MVP.

 

[lionlover]

Not bitter at all. I agree it is disappointing and certainly miss Tim. He was THE BWI MVP.

Tom McAndrew has contributed more to this wrestling board than any other BWI employee. Not even close.

 

[Dogwelder]

Tom McAndrew has contributed more to this wrestling board than any other BWI employee. Not even close.

More than Al Gore’s contribution of The Inter Net?

 

[PAgeologist]

Wrestling is getting closer to break even, which Cael has stated as a goal of his. The Penn State Wrestling Club is non profit so it donates the excess of revenues over expenses each year to PSU for the benefit of the wrestling team and that amount has been over $100K for the last several years and the amount continues to grow. Some time soon the hope is the wrestling team will financially pay for itself.

Is that before or after the donation to the Slush fund? Certain people are sticklers for compliance.

 

[diggerpup]

Wrestling is getting closer to break even, which Cael has stated as a goal of his.

Break Even ?? Pfffffff.

Cmon.
If Cael would include the Slush Fund figures from the secret ledger, PSU wrestling would make Fortune 500 firms blush.

 

[NoVa Lion]

Is that before or after the donation to the Slush fund? Certain people are sticklers for compliance.

Before. The Slush Fund is oblivously OFF the books.

 

[Media Fan]

TV money has the bball team making a LOT of money. Part of being in a conference where the money is shared instead of needing to rely on the success of our team.

In fact, I have seen numbers from several years ago that showed PSU basketball making more net income than Villanova. That certainly surprised me.

 

[baccafarmer]

Philly born and love College Basketball. I’ve attended PSU basketball since the 60’s and it’s been almost always an awful slog. NOW, we finally have something exciting. Rejoice and allow for the “extra” coverage. There is no doubt what so ever that wrestling is the better sport .... but, there is little or no reason to cuff the BB coverage. Things will return to normal next year!

 

[ccdiver]

Why no love for our #4 ranked Fencing squad?!

 

[johnstownsteel]

Tom McAndrew has contributed more to this wrestling board than any other BWI employee. Not even close.

Yeah...my bad. It should go without saying that Tom is certainly a Hall of Famer here. I need to be better at making sure I don't slight anyone while giving others a compliment.

 

[PSU James]

We have a fencing squad? I'm gonna check it out!

 

[Flying_Tiger]

 

[dunkej01]

#EATITTURK
#EATITHATERS
#UWISHUWEREUSRIGHTNOW
#P!SSEXCELLENCE

 

[Cowbell Man]

Can’t imagine why it would be vexing when the sport is in the top 2 or 3 most popular sports in the entire world. That they suddenly get pub and sellout the BJC isn’t remotely surprising.

but it is still better to wrestle and lose than play basketball.

 

[Dogwelder]

Be careful with getting vexed. I have heard it causes autism, even though the experts dismiss such concerns.

 

[lionlover]

Why no love for our #4 ranked Fencing squad?!

@Grove Lion @lobo lion @Tom McAndrew @AFRich @SJLuvsLions

 

[nitlion6]

The cold reality is that PSU basketball is the second highest profit maker while PSU wrestling loses money.

Put in a different way, PSU football and PSU basketball's success/existance helps to support PSU wrestling financially.

To be fair, PSU football, the Big10 football and basketball TV contracts pay for wrestling.
PSU football as a stand alone entity pays it's own Bill's. My guess is if Big10 basketball TV money is counted separately, the basketball program floats in the red inky water.

 

[82bordeaux]

Why no love for our #4 ranked Fencing squad?!

I never could get the point.

 

[tgar]

It seems every time I open up BWI all I see are BB posts since they are ranked #13. Is that such an accomplishment? We've been at the top of the national wrestling scene for a decade and all of a sudden basketball gets the headlines? Penn State Lacrosse is at #1, Hockey at #7, Wrestling #2 and our other winter teams are great, so where's the love? Don't misunderstand me, I love that the basketball team is having some success after quite a few years of mediocrity at best. Let's just have some parity on the main page shall we, although I've seen some hockey coverage, or am I just a bitter wrestling fan? What say you?

PS, It's seems it is the same over on the Iowa board too, I never see wrestling coverage on their main page.

Banger, where is the main page? WTF is that?

 

[PSU_Pride_93]

a simple google search would answer any and all questions about how penn state basketball does.... https://www.statecollege.com/news/l...han-100-million-in-revenue-in-201718,1479244/


i don’t think this needed a thread you are talking about a team that has been ranked since what 06-07 and hasn’t been to the big tournament since Taylor Battle lead them. Instead of being “vexed” for a headline, just enjoy the success of penn state sports and the fact a team that’s been in the bottom of the barrel is now ranked 13th. As a fan of wrestling, we have all been spoiled. Sit back folks and ClimbWithUs

 

[dunkej01]

a simple google search would answer any and all questions about how penn state basketball does.... https://www.statecollege.com/news/l...han-100-million-in-revenue-in-201718,1479244/


i don’t think this needed a thread you are talking about a team that has been ranked since what 06-07 and hasn’t been to the big tournament since Taylor Battle lead them. Instead of being “vexed” for a headline, just enjoy the success of penn state sports and the fact a team that’s been in the bottom of the barrel is now ranked 13th. As a fan of wrestling, we have all been spoiled. Sit back folks and ClimbWithUs

isn't there a basketball board to post this on

 

[nitlion6]

It seems every time I open up BWI all I see are BB posts since they are ranked #13. Is that such an accomplishment? We've been at the top of the national wrestling scene for a decade and all of a sudden basketball gets the headlines? Penn State Lacrosse is at #1, Hockey at #7, Wrestling #2 and our other winter teams are great, so where's the love? Don't misunderstand me, I love that the basketball team is having some success after quite a few years of mediocrity at best. Let's just have some parity on the main page shall we, although I've seen some hockey coverage, or am I just a bitter wrestling fan? What say you?

PS, It's seems it is the same over on the Iowa board too, I never see wrestling coverage on their main page.

Now that the other stuff has been covered. Seriously, vexed? Did it hurt, and how does your wife like it?

 

[PSU_Pride_93]

isn't there a basketball board to post this on

Couldn’t this whole pointless thread been done without

 

[pawrestlersintn]

a simple google search would answer any and all questions about how penn state basketball does.... https://www.statecollege.com/news/l...han-100-million-in-revenue-in-201718,1479244/


i don’t think this needed a thread you are talking about a team that has been ranked since what 06-07 and hasn’t been to the big tournament since Taylor Battle lead them. Instead of being “vexed” for a headline, just enjoy the success of penn state sports and the fact a team that’s been in the bottom of the barrel is now ranked 13th. As a fan of wrestling, we have all been spoiled. Sit back folks and ClimbWithUs

Google? What? Don't you dare mention Google. Mentioning Google apparently makes you lose all your friends.

 

[86PSUPaul]

Google? What? Don't you dare mention Google. Mentioning Google apparently makes you lose all your friends.

You had friends? JK!

 

[ClarkstonMark]

Tom McAndrew has contributed more to this wrestling board than any other BWI employee. Not even close.

Tom can confirm, but I don;t think he is a BWI employee, though I could be wrong.

Also, there are like 10 guys who post about hoops on Tom's board. There's got to be at least 15 or 20 that post about wrestling here. Right?