Why even play the games?

[kevina001]

I understand the committee's difficult job in regard to comparing teams from different conferences. They play totally different schedules against different groups of teams. Finding out if a great team from the Pac 12 is better than a great team from the SEC is tough. However, we have a mechanism in place to determine who the best team is in relation to the other teams in their conference. Through the play on the field, Penn St showed that they are the best team in the Big Ten this season. That's what that whole conference championship game was about. So if the Big Ten was going to send a team to the playoff, how can you not send the champion?

As it turns out, that Ohio State loss to Penn State actually helped them. If Ohio St beat Penn State, they would have had to play Wisconsin in the Big Ten Championship game. Even if they won that game, they'd be playing in the exact same playoff game they are playing in now. So a win would not have benefitted them at all. If they lost, who knows what would have happened (though I guess they still would have gotten in).

Shouldn't the results of the games matter? .

 

[psu ironman]

I have come the the realization that we must be undefeated to get invited to the dance.

 

[berklion]

Really, it feels like if the Orioles won the MLB AL East and a committee said the Yankees are going to the playoffs because we feel they are better. Or we like pinstripes.

 

[Lions8286]

I can't understand why our money grubbing conference wasn't campaigning their ass off for us. Hey, Iowa, Michigan State, Nebraska....you're next.

 

[dbsteel]

I have come the the realization that we must be undefeated to get invited to the dance.

That isn't true. Beat Pitt and we are in. A one loss team from this years Big Ten trumps a one loss team from the Pac 12 or whatever it is.

 

[Obliviax]

That isn't true. Beat Pitt and we are in. A one loss team from this years Big Ten trumps a one loss team from the Pac 12 or whatever it is.

I am not so sure. If we beat Pitt, we are a one-loss team like tOSU, W and Clemson. They'd still have a decision to make.

CJF said on Mike & Mike that you have to win the division and be undefeated to assure getting in. He's trying to "sell" the Rose Bowl, now, to the nation and team. Delany didn't campaign for us, like he did in 2014 for tOSU (check the tapes). And the NCAA doesn't want us anywhere near the playoff.

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

Really, it feels like if the Orioles won the MLB AL East and a committee said the Yankees are going to the playoffs because we feel they are better. Or we like pinstripes.

No doubt. A perfect analogy of the completely subjective and arbitrary rational that the "Selection Committee" uses - I like this team's uniforms better than that team's uniforms so there in....

The "Selection Committee" put Washington in because the went 9-1 in the Pac12 and won a Pac12 Championship (they certainly didn't put them in for playing an OOC schedule ranked the weakest OOC schedule in all of FBS Football!). The Selection Committee rated the B1G to be at least two times better than the Pac12 with 4 of 7 top teams going into Championship Week from the B1G (with 3 of the 4 being in the B1G East Division which PSU won on the field of play including a head-to-head win over daO$U), so of course the Selection Committee would reward PSU's 9-1 B1G Division and Conference Championships and absolute best outright record in the hardest Conference of all of CFB where the Selection Committee has ranked 4 of the 7 highest ranked teams, right??? No, the Selection Committee pulled out one of their double-standard, completely subjective bull$hit rationales for explaining why you don't reward a 9-1 PSU Conference Champion who built thar record playing in the hardest Conference of all of CFB unlike the Pac12 team??? Go figure...

 

[Wexford Buckeye]

I understand the committee's difficult job in regard to comparing teams from different conferences. They play totally different schedules against different groups of teams. Finding out if a great team from the Pac 12 is better than a great team from the SEC is tough. However, we have a mechanism in place to determine who the best team is in relation to the other teams in their conference. Through the play on the field, Penn St showed that they are the best team in the Big Ten this season. That's what that whole conference championship game was about. So if the Big Ten was going to send a team to the playoff, how can you not send the champion?

As it turns out, that Ohio State loss to Penn State actually helped them. If Ohio St beat Penn State, they would have had to play Wisconsin in the Big Ten Championship game. Even if they won that game, they'd be playing in the exact same playoff game they are playing in now. So a win would not have benefitted them at all. If they lost, who knows what would have happened (though I guess they still would have gotten in).

Shouldn't the results of the games matter? .

You make good points. But I would ask, shouldn't losses matter? With all the metrics used by the committee (supposedly), it still came down to losses. In the last 3 years, they have selected 3 undefeated teams and 9 teams with one loss. No two loss teams. I would agree that is a very pedestrian way of looking at things, but that's how they've been doing it so far and I expected them to continue. I think this year was a strange anomaly. A supposedly weaker (at the time) underdog pulls off an upset, but goes on to win the rest of the games and conference championship, proving it was a good team. The two losses dragged PSU down all season till the very end. I don't see a two loss team winning a division over a one loss team in a similar manner very often.

 

[AllEers6]

I understand the committee's difficult job in regard to comparing teams from different conferences. They play totally different schedules against different groups of teams. Finding out if a great team from the Pac 12 is better than a great team from the SEC is tough. However, we have a mechanism in place to determine who the best team is in relation to the other teams in their conference. Through the play on the field, Penn St showed that they are the best team in the Big Ten this season. That's what that whole conference championship game was about. So if the Big Ten was going to send a team to the playoff, how can you not send the champion?

As it turns out, that Ohio State loss to Penn State actually helped them. If Ohio St beat Penn State, they would have had to play Wisconsin in the Big Ten Championship game. Even if they won that game, they'd be playing in the exact same playoff game they are playing in now. So a win would not have benefitted them at all. If they lost, who knows what would have happened (though I guess they still would have gotten in).

Shouldn't the results of the games matter? .

Hey, I agree with the Penn State vs Ohio State debate and think you should be in but go look at the SOS for Washington(Sagarin). Its "60"! How in the heck does a team get in with that SOS. The committee left TCU out two years ago because they were 51. Now problem number 3. The media and those in charge will not saying a word. Every year when ESPN brings this stuff out its just a big love fest. Makes me sick!!!

 

[ClarkstonMark]

I have come the the realization that we must be undefeated to get invited to the dance.

We would have been in with 1 loss

 

[Crusher1950]

Here's what the so called experts said #1 conference championships mean nothing so do away with them,#2 head to head matchups mean nothing so if someone is ranked above you don't play them because if you beat them it won't matter, #3 only schedule patsies for your occ schedule we need to schedule Shippensburg, Lock Haven and Colgate that way we are automatic for that point, #4 go and pay a well known person a tv celebrate to say all the right things to the committee about why we are better than anyone else ala Kirk Herbstreet. There now wasn't that easy!!!!!!!

 

[AllEers6]

Here's what the so called experts said #1 conference championships mean nothing so do away with them,#2 head to head matchups mean nothing so if someone is ranked above you don't play them because if you beat them it won't matter, #3 only schedule patsies for your occ schedule we need to schedule Shippensburg, Lock Haven and Colgate that way we are automatic for that point, #4 go and pay a well known person a tv celebrate to say all the right things to the committee about why we are better than anyone else ala Kirk Herbstreet. There now wasn't that easy!!!!!!!

LOL, yep

 

[AvgUser]

I understand the committee's difficult job in regard to comparing teams from different conferences. They play totally different schedules against different groups of teams. Finding out if a great team from the Pac 12 is better than a great team from the SEC is tough. However, we have a mechanism in place to determine who the best team is in relation to the other teams in their conference. Through the play on the field, Penn St showed that they are the best team in the Big Ten this season. That's what that whole conference championship game was about. So if the Big Ten was going to send a team to the playoff, how can you not send the champion?

As it turns out, that Ohio State loss to Penn State actually helped them. If Ohio St beat Penn State, they would have had to play Wisconsin in the Big Ten Championship game. Even if they won that game, they'd be playing in the exact same playoff game they are playing in now. So a win would not have benefitted them at all. If they lost, who knows what would have happened (though I guess they still would have gotten in).

Shouldn't the results of the games matter? .

Worse yet, OSU should be ranked #4. Other teams with Conference Championships won their division. OSU could not even win their side of the conference. Talk abuot a cluster