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Not disagreeing with you, but isn't "getting kicked out of NCAA wrestling" is a matter of timing?

Could be misremembering but IIRC the NCAA punishment is a 1-yr suspension, not a Pete Rose ban. If he weren't a SR, he would still have some future eligibility, just 1 year less than planned.
Just to add some perspective to "the penalty is too harsh" group... Keep in mind that it wasn't that long ago that all NCAA athletes were penalized the same time frame (1 year) in order to transfer to another school. You didn't see many "senior year" transfers in those days. Brands got the same punishment as a transfer would have received. I agree with several posters that point out the coincidental timing which was chosen entirely by Brands.
 
Whatever you say dicemen99✌️
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That's three posts in a row basically stating that you're done with the discussion and want to move on. Care to make it 4?
Now, now. "I can't just take my ball and go home unless I make a scene, so everyone understands I am taking my ball and going home. Now, give me that last word so I can feel like I left as the winner."
 
Now, now. "I can't just take my ball and go home unless I make a scene, so everyone understands I am taking my ball and going home. Now, give me that last word so I can feel like I left as the winner."
Blown out of proportion. I simply said I wasn't going to explain myself to Dicemen99 because I knew what he would do with my response. "Nobody is taking their ball and going home". I gave him the ✌️sign so we could agree to disagree and move on. I legit don't care about having the last word on a message board. .

Posters on the mat.com forums have a thread pinned at the top of the page dedicated to fools wanting the last word. Maybe thats what your looking for.
 
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I've accepted the ruling, but it still sucks as a diehard Hawkeye wrestling fan. He knew the rules. Nelson should've been sitting front and center of every meeting on his schedule. Especially considering his last name is Brands. No excuses for that.

I still think the punishment is too harsh for what he and Cassioppi did. It still baffles me that that only male's at ISU and Iowa were targeted. Life is full of unfairness.
Do you know a single college-age female that has a sports betting account and actually uses it to gamble on sports? Paper tournament brackets among friends don't count.
 
Do you know a single college-age female that has a sports betting account and actually uses it to gamble on sports? Paper tournament brackets among friends don't count.
To be honest, i don't even know a single college female anymore. If I divided my wife's age in half, I would have two 19 year olds however.. Does that count?

Are you of the determination college females don't gamble?
 
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To be honest, i don't even know a single college female anymore. If I divided my wife's age in half, I would have two 19 year olds however.. Does that count?

Are you of the determination college females don't gamble?

I would wager that a lot fewer gamble (in terms of sports betting) than college age males. The over eager Iowa prosecutor probably thought resources would be better spent fishing in the pond with more fish.
 
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To be honest, i don't even know a single college female anymore. If I divided my wife's age in half, I would have two 19 year olds however.. Does that count?

Are you of the determination college females don't gamble?
I have two daughters who recently graduated from college (2021 and 2022). When I read on GIA that you guys were claiming "males" were targeted I immediately thought bs. I've met at least a hundred of their friends at tailgates I would throw over the years and never came across one that bet on sports. So, I asked my daughters if either knew any female that has a sports betting app and actually gambles on sports and both of them told me they didn't know any females that gambled. Unlike the females, they both had several male friends who regularly gambled on sports.

However, I know some women in their 30's and above who sometimes gamble on sports. Not many, but a few.
 
I have two daughters who recently graduated from college (2021 and 2022). When I read on GIA that you guys were claiming "males" were targeted I immediately thought bs. I've met at least a hundred of their friends at tailgates I would throw over the years and never came across one that bet on sports. So, I asked my daughters if either knew any female that has a sports betting app and actually gambles on sports and both of them told me they didn't know any females that gambled. Unlike the females, they both had several male friends who regularly gambled on sports.

However, I know some women in their 30's and above who sometimes gamble on sports. Not many, but a few.
Hundreds' of girl's at tailgates and none of them gambled!? Holy smokes. You asked each of them and believed them all? Those women sure make up for it when they hit 70! I bet I could find my grandma right now at the casino if I looked for her:D

Is online sports betting legal where your daughters went to college? I don't have the statistics, but I find it hard believe no female's participate in online sports gambling in State's where it's allowed. I also would wager there are several things your daughters' haven't told you the truth on about their time in college.(no offense)
 
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That's three posts in a row basically stating that you're done with the discussion and want to move on. Care to make it 4?
nope, I think he will be compelled to post his thoughts on several other boards (like he stated) - the man wants to be heard on forums... it must mean a lot.
- not really throwing stones, just in one of those perspective moods...
 
Hundreds' of girl's at tailgates and none of them gambled!? Holy smokes. You asked each of them and believed them all? Those women sure make up for it when they hit 70! I bet I could find my grandma right now at the casino if I looked for her:D

Is online sports betting legal where your daughters went to college? I don't have the statistics, but I find it hard believe no female's participate in online sports gambling in State's where it's allowed. I also would wager there are several things your daughters' haven't told you the truth on about their time in college.(no offense)

Was really waiting for wrestling season to start before posting but couldn’t resist this thread. I’m for sure a gambler.

I don’t believe most of what I read but here’s a few links on the subject being discussed

For what it’s worth I’m a die hard life long Penn State fan and I’m so biased I can make a case for all 10 weights going Penn States weight this year . Clearly not gonna happen but there is hope and good hope at every weight .


 
Was really waiting for wrestling season to start before posting but couldn’t resist this thread. I’m for sure a gambler.

I don’t believe most of what I read but here’s a few links on the subject being discussed

For what it’s worth I’m a die hard life long Penn State fan and I’m so biased I can make a case for all 10 weights going Penn States weight this year . Clearly not gonna happen but there is hope and good hope at every weight .


Those are eye opening articles! Online betting has really changed gambling as a whole. The younger demographic of women are way more likely to gamble now using their smart phones. They can Google questions right away without having to ask anyone sports information. They also don't have to sit next to creepy old guys at Casinos that smell like imminent death.

So, often If you pay $5 to sign up they will give you $200 to play. When i was college age, donating a little plasma got me 25$/week and I jumped at that easy money at the time. I can imagine why these young adults get roped in to "easy money"

Rehabs around the USA are going to have to add another wing for gambling addiction. The more you win as you gamble, the more money you shell out. It barrel rolls from there. As with any vice, moderation is key!
 
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Those are eye opening articles! Online betting has really changed gambling as a whole. The younger demographic of women are way more likely to gamble now using their smart phones. They can Google questions right away without having to ask anyone sports information. They also don't have to sit next to creepy old guys at Casinos that smell like imminent death.

So, often If you pay $5 to sign up they will give you $200 to play. When i was college age, donating a little plasma got me 25$/week and I jumped at that easy money at the time. I can imagine why these young adults get roped in to "easy money"

Rehabs around the USA are going to have to add another wing for gambling addiction. The more you win as you gamble, the more money you shell out. It barrel rolls from there. As with any vice, moderation is key!
I think I got $8 the first donation and $10 for the second donation of the week. I pity the people that got products based on my juice.
 
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So, per those articles, women account for 11% of revenue for one website/app. They also indicate that that is the result of a significant increase in female participation. That 11% represents a more than quintupling of their share of revenue (yes, I understand revenue doesn’t mean minutes on the app, or bets placed, etc.) in the last four years.

To claim that males were unfairly targeted is likely just not true; they make up the vast majority of the gambling population.
 
So, per those articles, women account for 11% of revenue for one website/app. They also indicate that that is the result of a significant increase in female participation. That 11% represents a more than quintupling of their share of revenue (yes, I understand revenue doesn’t mean minutes on the app, or bets placed, etc.) in the last four years.

To claim that males were unfairly targeted is likely just not true; they make up the vast majority of the gambling population.

Scroll down to page 11 and read under Gender. The first article is based on a survey.
Where are you seeing 5%?

I will read the 2nd article again and see if I missed it there
 
Those are eye opening articles! Online betting has really changed gambling as a whole. The younger demographic of women are way more likely to gamble now using their smart phones. They can Google questions right away without having to ask anyone sports information. They also don't have to sit next to creepy old guys at Casinos that smell like imminent death.

So, often If you pay $5 to sign up they will give you $200 to play. When i was college age, donating a little plasma got me 25$/week and I jumped at that easy money at the time. I can imagine why these young adults get roped in to "easy money"

Rehabs around the USA are going to have to add another wing for gambling addiction. The more you win as you gamble, the more money you shell out. It barrel rolls from there. As with any vice, moderation is key!

I tend to agree with most of the post but you lose me a little in the last paragraph but we all have different opinions

And isn’t just about everything a vice. Hell posting on Internet forums is a vice . Moderation is key.
 
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I tend to agree with most of the post but you lose me a little in the last paragraph but we all have different opinions

And isn’t just about everything a vice. Hell posting on Internet forums is a vice . Moderation is key.
True, but posting on forums is free fun that won't lose you a house or your marriage(hopefully).

A lot of these young college kids developing that taste for rolling the dice early in life will result in bad situations. It's inevitable.
 
Was really waiting for wrestling season to start before posting but couldn’t resist this thread. I’m for sure a gambler.

I don’t believe most of what I read but here’s a few links on the subject being discussed

For what it’s worth I’m a die hard life long Penn State fan and I’m so biased I can make a case for all 10 weights going Penn States weight this year . Clearly not gonna happen but there is hope and good hope at every weight .



Turk was really waiting for this post.
 
True, but posting on forums is free fun that won't lose you a house or your marriage(hopefully).

A lot of these young college kids developing that taste for rolling the dice early in life will result in bad situations. It's inevitable.
Internet forums is pretty much the same as social media . In fact message boards and the like were the pre cursor to my space , Facebook , and the like

The studies that show the harm to young adults with social media would seem to far outweigh those of gambling.

Again just an opinion.
 
Why ? Is there something wrong with the post .

I wonder what the odds would be of all 10 penn state wrestlers winning the natty

Or better yet the odds of winning 6 , something that seems much more feasible.
 
Internet forums is pretty much the same as social media . In fact message boards and the like were the pre cursor to my space , Facebook , and the like

The studies that show the harm to young adults with social media would seem to far outweigh those of gambling.

Again just an opinion.
I'm assuming you gamble a lot? and are somewhat justifying it to yourself? I'm not judging you for gambling either. To each their own.

As far as internet forums go, i have to disagree the harmful effects of that far outweigh those of gambling addiction.
 
Why ? Is there something wrong with the post .

I wonder what the odds would be of all 10 penn state wrestlers winning the natty

Or better yet the odds of winning 6 , something that seems much more feasible.
Nope you posted nothing wrong at all. Just a differing opinion which is what message boards are for.
 
If the Iowa/Iowa St guys gambled on sports that they didn’t play and couldn’t affect the outcome then who cares. As a fan of the sport, missing Big Tony will hurt not only Iowa but wrestling as a hole as another tough competitor is dropped. I’m in the minority and i know it, but that’s just my take. Professional athletes aren’t allowed to gamble on their own sport but they can gamble on other professional/collegiate sports. Unless I’m missing something, the NCAA compliance rules are f*cking stupid and should be reevaluated as times change and the world evolves. If a college kid wants to gamble (responsible of course) then what does it matter. If Brooks or Starocci want to bet on Penn St football then who cares other than the NCAA
 
If the Iowa/Iowa St guys gambled on sports that they didn’t play and couldn’t affect the outcome then who cares. As a fan of the sport, missing Big Tony will hurt not only Iowa but wrestling as a hole as another tough competitor is dropped. I’m in the minority and i know it, but that’s just my take. Professional athletes aren’t allowed to gamble on their own sport but they can gamble on other professional/collegiate sports. Unless I’m missing something, the NCAA compliance rules are f*cking stupid and should be reevaluated as times change and the world evolves. If a college kid wants to gamble (responsible of course) then what does it matter. If Brooks or Starocci want to bet on Penn St football then who cares other than the NCAA
It’s been explained that athletes on campus often have access to privileged info (injuries, game plans, etc) for sports beyond their own. It could more easily lead to point shaving type scenarios in their own sport too. That‘s the logic, anyway.
 
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If the Iowa/Iowa St guys gambled on sports that they didn’t play and couldn’t affect the outcome then who cares. As a fan of the sport, missing Big Tony will hurt not only Iowa but wrestling as a hole as another tough competitor is dropped. I’m in the minority and i know it, but that’s just my take. Professional athletes aren’t allowed to gamble on their own sport but they can gamble on other professional/collegiate sports. Unless I’m missing something, the NCAA compliance rules are f*cking stupid and should be reevaluated as times change and the world evolves. If a college kid wants to gamble (responsible of course) then what does it matter. If Brooks or Starocci want to bet on Penn St football then who cares other than the NCAA
Because it's insider trading, too many conflicts of interest.
 
I'm assuming you gamble a lot? and are somewhat justifying it to yourself? I'm not judging you for gambling either. To each their own.

As far as internet forums go, i have to disagree the harmful effects of that far outweigh those of gambling addiction.
I agree with goggles no need to ping this back and forth so much I want to talk more wrestling than gambling

I’ll ping one last time and you can pong if you want to .

I’m not trying to justify anything I just view message boards and forums in the same vain as social media. Perhaps you could articulate the difference. I sincerely don’t see one.

Your usage of message boards as mine is is harmless but so is most of gambling. The dark side of social media influences kids at early ages , is or is believed to be a contributor in the increase in suicide rates , teen cutting etc etc. so yea we can just agree to disagree

Do I gamble too much. My wife thinks so but because my casino trips are usually when she is sleeping she doesn’t mind and I limit my losses on the occasions I go.

My last sports gamble was on the bruins game 7 against Florida in first round of playoffs. Based off my moniker I’m a die hard Boston fan as well. I lost that bet lol .

I’ll take the lions tonight against the hawks in football though if you want to go straight up . 14.5 is just way to much for me

Also I believe it was you in a prior thread that wanted to take iowa against messenbrink for overall nattys . I was going to respond to that thread as well but I can’t bet against things I don’t want to happen . Hope I said that correctly. Lol
 
Nice interview of Adeline Gray discussing her journey back from having twins 14 months ago and being 50 pounds over her competition weight to winning her ninth world medal. She is very inspiring and is a great ambassador for the sport.

 
Interesting back story on why certain Russian wrestlers were allowed to compete at the World Championships even though they engaged in activities that suggested their support of Russia's war against Ukraine.

 
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