Yes. A bye week after that win meant 14 days before the Nebraska game. However,409 actually feels like a truncated number because it was not the end of the season.
Yes. A bye week after that win meant 14 days before the Nebraska game. However, nine days after the Illinois win, Joe 'gets a phone call'.
As 'ro always says, to which I concur: I miss the old guy.
I disagree with a lot of the takes on the scandal fallout posted here, but this is one point that IMO is unquestionably true. The way the university treated a tenured employee that had done so much for the university was shameful.Joe deserved much better.
I disagree with a lot of the takes on the scandal fallout posted here, but this is one point that IMO is unquestionably true. The way the university treated sure a tenured employee that had done so much for the university was shameful.
It's never going to happen. The statue is gone forever, they aren't going to name things after him. I have mixed feelings about whether that should happen but I accepted that it won't ever be done a long, long time ago. My comments were more about how the communication and termination process that went down in 2011. It was a disgrace.Honestly, it would just be so easy for the school to simply do the right thing even at this junction and properly honor a man that had such a huge impact on the university. Whether it is returning the statue, naming the stadium after him, whatever. Just honor him and do him right.
While there would be backlash, it would be easy to address - even doing so ahead of time - with a properly explained press release and context of JoePa's role in the Sandusky situation - where he did everything exactly as he should have, the rule follower that he was. And outside of some small criticism at the time of the honoring, everyone will get over it quickly and no one will care after s a week or two.
It's sad that the University leadership won't do the right thing in this situation.
What you say is spot on. People continuing to insist that Joe be "honored" need to lower their expectations - there will be nothing named after him. All he will be recognized for is lines in the record books. I hope he really enjoyed "409" because he paid a hell of a price for it.It's never going to happen. The statue is gone forever, they aren't going to name things after him. I have mixed feelings about whether that should happen but I accepted that it won't ever be done a long, long time ago. My comments were more about how the communication and termination process that went down in 2011. It was a disgrace.
ZeroWhat do we think about the chances of some kind of acknowledgement on Saturday? Linger on a video segment of him after winning 409?
The University “leadership” are not leaders nor even good managers. And they have zero courage. And the amount of courage it would require is minimal. It’s not like they are storming a DDay beach. Yet such is the times we live in…Honestly, it would just be so easy for the school to simply do the right thing even at this junction and properly honor a man that had such a huge impact on the university. Whether it is returning the statue, naming the stadium after him, whatever. Just honor him and do him right.
While there would be backlash, it would be easy to address - even doing so ahead of time - with a properly explained press release and context of JoePa's role in the Sandusky situation - where he did everything exactly as he should have, the rule follower that he was. And outside of some small criticism at the time of the honoring, everyone will get over it quickly and no one will care after s a week or two.
It's sad that the University leadership won't do the right thing in this situation.
Mixed feelings? If so, then why do your term the process a disgrace?It's never going to happen. The statue is gone forever, they aren't going to name things after him. I have mixed feelings about whether that should happen but I accepted that it won't ever be done a long, long time ago. My comments were more about how the communication and termination process that went down in 2011. It was a disgrace.
Never , and won't happen
It's never going to happen.
People… need to lower their expectations - there will be nothing
Zero
Watching that clip brings tears my eyes. There wasn't a bigger Paterno fan than my dad, Lloyd Cook. My parents had seats in the handicap section behind the students. On Thursday Oct 27th two days before that game he passed away rather suddenly. We watched that game while we planned his funeral. I think the pastor thought we were crazy, but he wouldn't have wanted it any other way and in many ways it was comforting. That wide right kick went right at his empty seats that day. I'll always think he had a hand in that one. I Miss Both those Old Guys.Miss the Old Guy.
This was a great scene that day....students getting behind the goal posts to put the "Noonan" on the Illinois kicker.
You see, Iowa and Tennessee - this is how a crowd is supposed to impact a game - not the way you guys do it.
I was there too!!! The field, hell the stadium, should be named after him. Eff those ESPN trolled d!cks that believe he was anything but a forthright, magnanimous guy!I was there. Joe was humble after the game, as always.
What you say is spot on. People continuing to insist that Joe be "honored" need to lower their expectations - there will be nothing named after him. All he will be recognized for is lines in the record books. I hope he really enjoyed "409" because he paid a hell of a price for it.
So many incredible people to thank for introducing so many people in the real world to the truth about Joe Paterno.
Way too many people to start listing now. But I will start with Ray Blehar (who wrote a column today about "Joe Paterno Field at Beaver Stadium") and Jimmy W. Those two have been there from the very beginning and kept us locked and loaded with nothing but facts. Nellie and WenSilver have been sensational with their ability to confront everyone with indisputable facts in the name of child welfare.
My only regret is that this day should be universally celebrated by everyone in intercollegiate athletics for the achievements of Joe Paterno who somehow won the most games in the history of major college football + 2 National Championships + another 4 undefeated/untied/uncrowned seasons, all the while bringing academics into the world of athletics.
Joe Paterno was the face of everything that's good about intercollegiate athletics, and he just so happened to be the best of all time.
#B1G #WeAre #PennState #WeAreBecauseHeWas
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I have always thought that Joe was the conscience of college football, and I believe it more today than I ever have.
The sport is populated with coaches who have embraced a lack of sportsmanship approach. I realize that we live in a social media age, but decency and respect were always Joe’s compass, and we need it now more than ever.
The mixed feelings are about the possibilities of posthumously recognizing him somehow. The disgrace was the handling of his termination in 2011. The decision to terminate is one thing, but how they went about it was simply terrible.Mixed feelings? If so, then why do your term the process a disgrace?
You agreed with the decision to terminate Joe?The mixed feelings are about the possibilities of posthumously recognizing him somehow. The disgrace was the handling of his termination in 2011. The decision to terminate is one thing, but how they went about it was simply terrible.
Ditto.Through 4 years at Penn State, and 40 years after graduation, I believed Joe Paterno was man of character. Then came Sandusky. I was determined to look at the facts objectively and I believe I did. I continue to read, and listen, seeking any information that might change my opinion of Joe. Nothing has. Joe was a flawed man as we all are, but those flaws did not include countenancing child abuse. The trashing of Joe's reputation, and legacy, by the leadership of this University is despicable. I will never forget who they were and what they did.
People who take positions on the board do not do so with idea that it is an easy way to (a) gain prestige and (b) pocket a nice chunk of extra cash for very little real work. They had no ability or will to handle a crisis of any difficulty at al. No one should have been surprised by their ineptitude and amorality.The University “leadership” are not leaders nor even good managers.…
I don't know what your reasons are, I wonder if they are the same as mine. I just don't want to hear all the self righteous assholes use the opportunity to polish off their sermons about our allegedly warped priorities, Paterno's alleged culpability, etc. It would be more of a gift to them than it would be to Paterno's memory.The mixed feelings are about the possibilities of posthumously recognizing him somehow.