ADVERTISEMENT

2017 Preseason Practice Articles/Discussion

Penn State position analysis: Defensive line
Updated: August 15, 2017 — 2:02 PM EDT
Randy Litzinger / Icon Sportswire

Shareef Miller could have a breakout season, Penn State coach James Franklin says.

by Joe Juliano, STAFF WRITER @JoeJulesinq | jjuliano@phillynews.com
Spotlight on: Shareef Miller

Two starting defensive-end jobs are up for grabs in this year’s training camp, and Philadelphia’s Shareef Miller appears to be a favorite to claim one of them. At 6-foot-5 and 255 pounds, Miller has the speed, quickness and power to rush the passer. He showed that talent last season in his varsity debut with two sacks against Kent State. Although he didn’t record another sack the rest of the season, he finished with 5 1/2 tackles for loss and a forced fumble. The redshirt sophomore and George Washington High graduate had a good spring and has been impressing coaches in training camp. Head coach James Franklin said he thought Miller “has a chance to kind of have a breakout year and take the next step.”

A crowd at defensive end
The ranks are full of contenders for starting spots and time in defensive line coach Sean Spencer’s rotation. Two are from the Philadelphia area – 6-6, 273-pound redshirt sophomore Ryan Buchholz (Great Valley) and 6-3, 220-pound redshirt freshman Shaka Toney (Imhotep Charter). Buchholz could move inside to a tackle spot on certain passing downs to give the Lions more speed with their pass rush. And Toney, who is 30-40 pounds lighter than the average defensive end, could be of value in defending spread offenses because of his quickness to the outside. Defensive coordinator Brent Pry said Toney “brings a good football IQ” to the position. Other contenders for starting positions are redshirt junior Torrence Brown, the top returnee in terms of playing time at end last season; redshirt freshman Shane Simmons; and junior Colin Castagna.

Experience at defensive tackle
The Nittany Lions boast good size and valued experience at defensive tackle, led by two fifth-year seniors – 6-4, 302-pound Parker Cothren, who started all 13 games last season, and 6-5, 295-pound Curtis Cothran. A Council Rock North graduate, Cothran overcame some early internal issues within the team to play in 10 games, with eight starts, and had three solo tackles for loss against Wisconsin. Again, depth is a strength with third-year sophomores Kevin Givens (7 tackles for loss, most of any interior lineman last season) and Robert Windsor and senior Tyrell Chavis, who came in last year as a junior-college transfer.


Any emerging freshmen?
Franklin calls 6-5, 242-pound end Yetur Gross-Matos “the freshman that everyone is excited about.” Two other freshmen he mentioned were tackles, 302-pound Fred Hansard and 285-pound Corey Bolds. This should give Spencer a lot of chips with which to play on the line.

And about that rotation …
Spencer likes to play as many as 10 defensive linemen in every game to keep them fresh, and Pry calls the rotation important. “If they’re able to do it, if we’re accomplished with it, then all those guys get more reps,” Pry said. “They want that. It’s important to them because, if we do well, it means more reps for everybody. Late in the game, third, fourth quarter, that same O-line’s been out there snap after snap, and we’re bringing in guys that are fairly fresh. So it’s been a real asset.”

Don't understand why some of the DE discussions do not include Joseph when talking about the redshirt freshmen competing to get on the field.........
 
  • Like
Reactions: royboy
Don't understand why some of the DE discussions do not include Joseph when talking about the redshirt freshmen competing to get on the field.........
Greg, I agree; I was very impressed with his HS highlights when he came on board, and think he's got the tools to be a very good player. The good news is having several talented candidates for DE.
 
Not trying to start a panic, but is there any word on Saeed Blacknall's status? He, of course, did not play in the Rose Bowl. He also didn't play in the Blue-White Game. Barkely didn't play in the Blue-White Game, but many starters did. There were some questions in April whether Blacknall sat out of the Blue-White Game because he was in Franklin's doghouse. Any word on him? He should be a starter, yes?
 
Very well written and complimentary article on SB by Omaha Nebraska newspaper. Really, aren't Nebraska fans the classiest and most respectful of their opponents of all the B10 teams? Excluding PSU, of course.....

http://www.omaha.com/huskers/bigten...84f873b57e.html#tncms-source=article-nav-next


5993a01c2a9b2.image.jpg
 
Not trying to start a panic, but is there any word on Saeed Blacknall's status? He, of course, did not play in the Rose Bowl. He also didn't play in the Blue-White Game. Barkely didn't play in the Blue-White Game, but many starters did. There were some questions in April whether Blacknall sat out of the Blue-White Game because he was in Franklin's doghouse. Any word on him? He should be a starter, yes?
Blacknall is apparently competing with Thompkins for the starting outside position opposite Johnson. Looks like Johnson outside and Hamilton in the slot have those two starting roles locked up. Charles seems to be backing up Johnson right now, and Polk has showed up big-time to be the #2 behind Hamilton, although Hamler might be pushing him there.
 
Not trying to start a panic, but is there any word on Saeed Blacknall's status? He, of course, did not play in the Rose Bowl. He also didn't play in the Blue-White Game. Barkely didn't play in the Blue-White Game, but many starters did. There were some questions in April whether Blacknall sat out of the Blue-White Game because he was in Franklin's doghouse. Any word on him? He should be a starter, yes?
I don't know about Blacknall but in an interview Moorhead responded to a question about replacing Godwin by saying that Juwan had the speed, size and skills to be a boundary receiver like Godwin. He said that Juwan would fit in nicely.
 
Not trying to start a panic, but is there any word on Saeed Blacknall's status? He, of course, did not play in the Rose Bowl. He also didn't play in the Blue-White Game. Barkely didn't play in the Blue-White Game, but many starters did. There were some questions in April whether Blacknall sat out of the Blue-White Game because he was in Franklin's doghouse. Any word on him? He should be a starter, yes?

Blacknall is apparently competing with Thompkins for the starting outside position opposite Johnson. Looks like Johnson outside and Hamilton in the slot have those two starting roles locked up. Charles seems to be backing up Johnson right now, and Polk has showed up big-time to be the #2 behind Hamilton, although Hamler might be pushing him there.

I don't know about Blacknall but in an interview Moorhead responded to a question about replacing Godwin by saying that Juwan had the speed, size and skills to be a boundary receiver like Godwin. He said that Juwan would fit in nicely.
Someone else can disagree, but it is my interpretation of what I have heard that both he and Bowen are basically back at the starting block. Whatever they did, it was bad enough to warrant having to perform their way back into the lineup. So, yea kind of still in the doghouse
 
Not trying to start a panic, but is there any word on Saeed Blacknall's status? He, of course, did not play in the Rose Bowl. He also didn't play in the Blue-White Game. Barkely didn't play in the Blue-White Game, but many starters did. There were some questions in April whether Blacknall sat out of the Blue-White Game because he was in Franklin's doghouse. Any word on him? He should be a starter, yes?

He was injured in the spring. Couldn't practice. I think he and Bowen are both 2nd string as part of the message that you screw up, you lose your starting spot. Have to earn it back over time. Thompkins is a quality player, a blazer in his own right, and they are going to rotate anyway.
 
Barkley article (Bleacher Report)

From the article:

"You already know: Assistant coach Jerry Sandusky was sexually abusing young boys."

Another pinhead "JOURNALIST" who can't spell the word retired, so he just skipped it.
 
  • Like
Reactions: grinagrin
Great stuff. Big year for Sterling to get in position to contribute if either Bates or Wright get banged up. We talk a lot about the line's interior talent and depth, but if Jenkins establishes himself, we could potentially have five tackles that can play in Bates, Wright, Fries, Nelson, and Jenkins - and Mahon, too, really.
 
Someone else can disagree, but it is my interpretation of what I have heard that both he and Bowen are basically back at the starting block. Whatever they did, it was bad enough to warrant having to perform their way back into the lineup. So, yea kind of still in the doghouse

He was injured in the spring. Couldn't practice. I think he and Bowen are both 2nd string as part of the message that you screw up, you lose your starting spot. Have to earn it back over time. Thompkins is a quality player, a blazer in his own right, and they are going to rotate anyway.

Thanks, guys. What did Bowen do?
 
Very well written and complimentary article on SB by Omaha Nebraska newspaper. Really, aren't Nebraska fans the classiest and most respectful of their opponents of all the B10 teams? Excluding PSU, of course.....

It depends on whether or not you have stolen said fan's over sized novelty hat or not.
 
  • Like
Reactions: PSU87
FC Good article on Miles Sanders in the CDT


You might think heading into college as the No. 1 running back recruit in the country, only to be relegated to a second-string role as a freshman, would have been the toughest part of Miles Sanders’ transition.

That assumption would be incorrect.

What was tougher? Fielding kickoffs in front of 107,000 people and national television audiences.

“They never kicked it to me in high school,” he said during the team’s media day on Aug. 5. “That was probably the biggest adjustment.”


In both cases, the Penn State sophomore back figured out how to make it work.

When the Nittany Lions’ football season kicks off Sept. 2 against Akron at Beaver Stadium, Sanders will have the same roles, but he is a different — and improved — player and person from the experience.

“He’s learned a lot from being able to take a step back out of the limelight and take a look at some of his flaws and some of the areas he needed growth in,” running backs coach Charles Huff said.

The biggest obstacle for Sanders, no matter how good his resume might have looked when he stepped onto campus last summer, was the guy in front of him — Saquon Barkley. It’s hard to beat out one of the nation’s best players and a potential top-5 NFL draft pick.

Sanders could have sulked, but he chose to learn.

“It was good for Miles when he came in,” Huff said. “Obviously (he was) a highly-touted recruit out of high school. (There was) a lot of hype about his ability, his potential, and it was good for him to come and be around a guy like Saquon who was also, now that he’s here, a highly valuable kid. I think he’s learned a lot from Saquon.”


The star out of Pittsburgh’s Woodland Hills appreciated what he did have instead of what he didn’t. He still got plenty of playing time as a freshman — one of just fiven true freshmen to play last year — setting a school record with 33 kickoff returns and recording 688 yards, the second-most in school history. He also got 25 carries for 184 yards, scoring his only touchdown on a 25-yard run against Maryland, and breaking off a 57-yard burst against Rutgers.

Those numbers were a far cry from the 1,523 rushing yards he had as a high school senior and the 4,573 yards for his career. Those stats, combined with his speed and now 5-foot-11, 209-pound frame, made him the nation’s No. 1 back according to a number of recruiting services, including Rivals, Scout and 247Sports.

“He’s a really, really, really talented back physically,” fellow back Andre Robinson said. “It was a little bit of an adjustment for him. He had to learn the offense and learn everything.”

Sanders watched and learned, especially from Barkley. He saw what the junior did in the weight room, he saw how hard Barkley worked in drills, how hard he studied the playbook, how many questions he asked and especially how the game is so much more than physical ability.

“It’s not just about running the ball,” Sanders said. “You’ve got to really know your plays. You’ve got to block. That’s one of the other main things ... be mentally tough. That’s what it takes.”


The need for mental toughness came in handy when he was standing under kickoffs too. He was happy to be on the field and contributing, even if it took until about midseason, he said, before he felt comfortable back there.

Now, he is looking forward to being out there for kickoffs this year.

“I have a much better feeling about it,” he said. “I can’t wait, really.”

As for stepping into the offensive backfield, his time will come. Huff tells his position group there are no backups in the running back room. The starter is the guy on the field at that moment, and those who prepare like a backup will perform like a backup.

Huff liked the way Sanders accepted the challenge.

“You kind of expect to come out and rush for like a million yards,” Huff said. “He handled it the right way. I think that’s a big testament to Saquon. He kind of coached him that, ‘Hey, it ain’t going to be like running against (Pittsburgh) Central Catholic.’”
 
FC Good article on Miles Sanders in the CDT
As for stepping into the offensive backfield, his time will come. Huff tells his position group there are no backups in the running back room. The starter is the guy on the field at that moment, and those who prepare like a backup will perform like a backup.

Huff liked the way Sanders accepted the challenge.

“You kind of expect to come out and rush for like a million yards,” Huff said. “He handled it the right way. I think that’s a big testament to Saquon. He kind of coached him that, ‘Hey, it ain’t going to be like running against (Pittsburgh) Central Catholic.’”



Well, actually it will be like running against Pittsburgh Central Catholic when PSU plays Pitt, as after Duzzy strikes out trying to recruit against CJF and the other better programs for the top talent in the region he fills out his roster from down the street at PCC.....
 
  • Like
Reactions: bwifan
So we have heard about so many different players so far in camp, and I think this is a good sign, much more depth than in the past. I think that's one good sign, while another good sign, is that the scrimmages are no longer one sided, sometimes the offense wins, sometimes the defense wins. Plays are now being made by depth players as well as starters. These are all things that excellent teams have in common. We've heard Petrishen is now making noise, and now we hear about Taylor making some waves. Hamler has wowed people, and the coaches are saying people like Jenkins are on course and getting better. The players are keeping the mood light and fun, while getting better every day and grinding tough.
 

Wow!! Maybe a late entry into the battle for the starting Safety spot!!!

Along with the note on Petrishen having a good camp, it looks like 5 players legitimately competing for playing time opposite Allen and backing up Allen.

Anyone know who has been playing behind Allen?? I'm hoping that is where Taylor is playing - a redshirt soph that would have 2 more years. A depth chart would give us a clue as to who is slotted where.....

We have a nice young but somewhat experienced group of Safety's competing right now, as well as a nice true freshmen class of DB's that will also yield 1 or 2 Safety's.....
 
Building the best depth we have seen here since '93-'99. Seems we are not only recruiting lights out, but we are finding role players who can contribute without a lot of transferring out.
 
So we have heard about so many different players so far in camp, and I think this is a good sign, much more depth than in the past. I think that's one good sign, while another good sign, is that the scrimmages are no longer one sided, sometimes the offense wins, sometimes the defense wins. Plays are now being made by depth players as well as starters. These are all things that excellent teams have in common. We've heard Petrishen is now making noise, and now we hear about Taylor making some waves. Hamler has wowed people, and the coaches are saying people like Jenkins are on course and getting better. The players are keeping the mood light and fun, while getting better every day and grinding tough.
Posts like this are why I asked if you were actually a new poster. Damn good post.
 
PSU is heading into a season where the questions, are good questions. This is another factor playing in our favor.
 
Building the best depth we have seen here since '93-'99. Seems we are not only recruiting lights out, but we are finding role players who can contribute without a lot of transferring out.

Yep, Safety looks to have a great group of talented players. But it makes you wonder where CJF will find the scholarships to sign 25 players in the 2015 class.....
 
FC Good article on Miles Sanders in the CDT


You might think heading into college as the No. 1 running back recruit in the country, only to be relegated to a second-string role as a freshman, would have been the toughest part of Miles Sanders’ transition.

That assumption would be incorrect.

What was tougher? Fielding kickoffs in front of 107,000 people and national television audiences.

“They never kicked it to me in high school,” he said during the team’s media day on Aug. 5. “That was probably the biggest adjustment.”


In both cases, the Penn State sophomore back figured out how to make it work.

When the Nittany Lions’ football season kicks off Sept. 2 against Akron at Beaver Stadium, Sanders will have the same roles, but he is a different — and improved — player and person from the experience.

“He’s learned a lot from being able to take a step back out of the limelight and take a look at some of his flaws and some of the areas he needed growth in,” running backs coach Charles Huff said.

The biggest obstacle for Sanders, no matter how good his resume might have looked when he stepped onto campus last summer, was the guy in front of him — Saquon Barkley. It’s hard to beat out one of the nation’s best players and a potential top-5 NFL draft pick.

Sanders could have sulked, but he chose to learn.

“It was good for Miles when he came in,” Huff said. “Obviously (he was) a highly-touted recruit out of high school. (There was) a lot of hype about his ability, his potential, and it was good for him to come and be around a guy like Saquon who was also, now that he’s here, a highly valuable kid. I think he’s learned a lot from Saquon.”


The star out of Pittsburgh’s Woodland Hills appreciated what he did have instead of what he didn’t. He still got plenty of playing time as a freshman — one of just fiven true freshmen to play last year — setting a school record with 33 kickoff returns and recording 688 yards, the second-most in school history. He also got 25 carries for 184 yards, scoring his only touchdown on a 25-yard run against Maryland, and breaking off a 57-yard burst against Rutgers.

Those numbers were a far cry from the 1,523 rushing yards he had as a high school senior and the 4,573 yards for his career. Those stats, combined with his speed and now 5-foot-11, 209-pound frame, made him the nation’s No. 1 back according to a number of recruiting services, including Rivals, Scout and 247Sports.

“He’s a really, really, really talented back physically,” fellow back Andre Robinson said. “It was a little bit of an adjustment for him. He had to learn the offense and learn everything.”

Sanders watched and learned, especially from Barkley. He saw what the junior did in the weight room, he saw how hard Barkley worked in drills, how hard he studied the playbook, how many questions he asked and especially how the game is so much more than physical ability.

“It’s not just about running the ball,” Sanders said. “You’ve got to really know your plays. You’ve got to block. That’s one of the other main things ... be mentally tough. That’s what it takes.”


The need for mental toughness came in handy when he was standing under kickoffs too. He was happy to be on the field and contributing, even if it took until about midseason, he said, before he felt comfortable back there.

Now, he is looking forward to being out there for kickoffs this year.

“I have a much better feeling about it,” he said. “I can’t wait, really.”

As for stepping into the offensive backfield, his time will come. Huff tells his position group there are no backups in the running back room. The starter is the guy on the field at that moment, and those who prepare like a backup will perform like a backup.

Huff liked the way Sanders accepted the challenge.

“You kind of expect to come out and rush for like a million yards,” Huff said. “He handled it the right way. I think that’s a big testament to Saquon. He kind of coached him that, ‘Hey, it ain’t going to be like running against (Pittsburgh) Central Catholic.’”


Actually, when Sanders was at Woody High, Central's defense was better than the one Pitt will put on the field this year. Half the D was 4 star guys. The sum total of the defense that Pitt gets onto the field against us will barely be 4 stars.
 
  • Like
Reactions: bwifan
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT