2021 B1G Tournament
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What is your opinion on Heinselman's chance of being an AA and Howard's chance of being a R12?
Joe Lee needs a Snickers.
So we have an 11 going for 5th
A 5 going for 5th
A 7 going for 5th
And a 7 going for 3rd.
A tough round for PSU, shows there is a lot of work to do. We were out classed in three of these, clearly Greg has an amazing upside.
So we have an 11 going for 5th
A 5 going for 5th
A 7 going for 5th
And a 7 going for 3rd.
A tough round for PSU, shows there is a lot of work to do. We were out classed in three of these, clearly Greg has an amazing upside.
That's it for PSUers wrestling in Session III. I'm taking a break, but will be back for Session IV.
His issue is that he has great aggression and very good offensive skill, but lacks "tactical" skill (i.e., doesn't sense well when to shut down the aggression and tactically increase defensive position - it's like a boxer with only offensive skills, they're going to get destroyed by a good offensive boxer with great tactical skill and counter-punching ability).
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When
March 7, 4 pm EST
Where
@ Penn State
TV
BTN will be covering the finals.
Video Streaming
BTN+ will have coverage of the 3rd place and the 5th place matches, for those that are subscribers
Audio
Byers will have the audio PBP. The pre-tournament show will start at 3:40 am EST, with wrestling coverage commencing at 4 pm. You can access the audio at:
PBP
I'll provide PBP
Team Scoring
The best source for team scoring throughout the tournament is the Penn State Wrestling Club. Their link for live team scoring is:
Penn State Wrestling Club
PSU Sports, college wrestling, stats, schedules, merchandise, clothing, rosters
www.pennstatewrestlingclub.org
When
March 7, 4 pm EST
Where
@ Penn State
TV
BTN will be covering the finals.
Video Streaming
BTN+ will have coverage of the 3rd place and the 5th place matches, for those that are subscribers
Audio
Byers will have the audio PBP. The pre-tournament show will start at 3:40 am EST, with wrestling coverage commencing at 4 pm. You can access the audio at:
PBP
I'll provide PBP
Team Scoring
The best source for team scoring throughout the tournament is the Penn State Wrestling Club. Their link for live team scoring is:
Penn State Wrestling Club
PSU Sports, college wrestling, stats, schedules, merchandise, clothing, rosters
www.pennstatewrestlingclub.org
Matches involving PSU wrestlers:
125: Robbie Howard vs. Michael DeAugustino (NW) for 5th place
133: RBY vs. Austin DeSanto (Iowa) in the final
141: Nick Lee vs. Jaydin Eierman (Iowa) in the final
157: Brady Berge vs. Kendall Coleman (Purdue) for 5th place
174: Carter Stracci vs. Michael Kemmerer (Iowa) in the final
184: Aaron Brooks vs. Taylor Venz (Nebraska) in the final
197: Michael Beard vs. Lucas Davison (NW) for 5th place
285: Kerk vs. Tony Cassioppi (Iowa) for 3rd place
125: Robbie Howard vs. Michael DeAugustino (NW) for 5th place
133: RBY vs. Austin DeSanto (Iowa) in the final
141: Nick Lee vs. Jaydin Eierman (Iowa) in the final
157: Brady Berge vs. Kendall Coleman (Purdue) for 5th place
174: Carter Stracci vs. Michael Kemmerer (Iowa) in the final
184: Aaron Brooks vs. Taylor Venz (Nebraska) in the final
197: Michael Beard vs. Lucas Davison (NW) for 5th place
285: Kerk vs. Tony Cassioppi (Iowa) for 3rd place
My point is moreso that I think any of the top 10 or so guys in the B10 could make the finals. Schroder is the highest returning seed from last year’s tournament besides Lee. Yes, Heinselman may have to get over the Schroder hump, but someone else could take out Schroder too.
The 3rd-ranked guy (Camacho) lost to Medley last year. The guy who will likely be seeded 3rd (Hildebrandt) lost to DeAgustino and Hudkins (who was 0-2 this year then I think got injured).
He had a rough tournament. The Spadafora loss, in particular, was inexplicable. That said, he’s talented, tough and still young. I’m not gonna write him off, by any means.
Aggressive Brady no doubt. Defensive Brady? He's going to find himself in way too many matches decided by a single TD. Other than maybe Jimmy G, in the Cael Era has there been a guy who has had more attacks and trusted them less? I know its hard to change someone's tendencies but Brady needs to let it fly at nationals.
over in Italy Zahid and Mark are up now, Myles got a quick tech fall in the bronze medal match
Lol the expectations for these guys is unbelievable. I know he's been on campus for a year or two but he is a freshman and this is his first big tournament. What these guys need is mat time and they are getting it. Now Cael has something to work with in regards to where they need to improve. If they wrestle the same at nationals then I'll buy into what your saying. I'm guessing Cael will have them all working on where they need to improve. I'm liking their development. They will be fine
This was supposed to be a response to who you were responding to lol. I agree with what you are saying give them time
And zahid gets the gold 11-0 over Mark. Would have felt better if Mark had wrestled him on Friday night
He needs a little more of joe lee mentality and Joe lee needs a little more of berge mentality lol
When you have a knee wrapped like Joe Lee does, there's a reason. Reminds me of another wrestler, as a senior coming back from injury that, never got back to his level of wrestling. Give Joe some time.
It's as if he needs an hour on the mat for Zain or Nolf to yank his head out of his ass. Like you said, Joe is young and very talented. But just seems to lack awareness and puts himself into losing situations far too often. This weekend on the BIG stage, those issues were magnified. I really hope he gets everything corrected cause he has the ability to make some serious noise on the national stage, just maybe not this year.
Agree with that completely, especially the freshman.... They have only wrestled in limited duals and ZERO tournaments! It is what it is this year, but it has really hurt the young guys chances. When Nico made his run at NCAAs his trFR year after a decent, but far from spectacular regular season, he had the benefit of close to 30 matches under his belt - he took some tough losses, especially early on, but the matches against top opponents paid huge dividends in the postseason as they helped him develop rapidly through the year. These young kids have not had that opportunity. Unfortunate, but is what it is.
Keep in mind that there was no champion last year and this year is a shortened year with less competition due to Covid. Consequently, if Iowa does win this year, an asterisk should be included with the footnote that it was against reduced competition. }:>)
Kind of resembles the Joe Lee matches this weekend.Sometimes the board gets what it wants.
It's the lack of a regular season more than thinned out field imho - after all, we're going up against the same field. However, all of these wrestlers have only wrestled a small fraction of the number of matches they would in a normal year - a very small fraction, which included only a handful of duals and ZERO tournaments! Essentially, it's tantamount to having the postseason Tournaments with no regular season - it's given the new guys on the scene no chance to develop, so it's really not a true "season" and should be asterisked.
None of these men walking off the mat look like they are carrying an asterisk under their arm. The NCAA Champs this year are the NCAA Champs. It's as simple as that.
We were sailing the Interclub Regatta out of Erie Yacht Club a few years ago and some guys brought back a few too many bottles of Tylenol w/codeine. The sailboat was seized by Homeland Security and held for close to a year. They weren't big fans of the floating pharmacy.
Early season tournaments like the Scuffle teach true freshmen important lessons that coaches can only lecture about. When your first college tournament experience is the BIGs .... that’s a hard row to hoe. This was always Iowa’s year. Our young guys are laying an important foundation for 22-23.
The Ivy league decided not to wrestle, that is on them.
Wasn't as evident in the loss to Ferrante, but Joe Lee has shown a disturbing propensity to gas hard after the first period. Sometimes I wonder if he tries to force something big early, to get a lead before he runs down, and as a result gets in a bad position. Just spit-balling.
Not a very good round but overall I gotta say I'm pretty pumped the boys are hanging tough in a field that consists of the best Iowa team we've seen in at least 10 years. In my opinion these young guys will look even better at Nationals after getting some experience in their first big college tourney. That and the fact that Cael always seems to have the team peaking at Nationals. Iowa better win it this year and next or their fans will be back to questioning and fighting amongst themselves about the job Brands brothers and Morningstar are doing. And if they dont continue to recruit Pennsylvania well, its gonna get ugly with the hate their fans will show when it comes to anything Penn State . Hell, I'd go through 3 or 4 usernames a week if I still posted over there... lol
Are they running all the placing matches at the same time or will finals be wrestled by themselves?
I was wondering if others noticed that. Go look at the 1:01 mark in period 3. Berge takes a pretty solid head shot from Lee going out of bounds and almost appears to stumble for a moment coming back to the mat. From that point forward the "energy" level, or whatever you want to call it, seemed to shift in Lee's favor.
Praying it's not an issue, but given Brady's situation, even minor blows to the head take on more significance. I'll try to post a vid clip if I can figure out how (unless someone beats me to it).
EDIT: Here's a low quality vid clip.
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Joe Lee already wrestled in the Scuffle. To say his difficulties are due to "inexperience" is nonsense. He may also be hurt, but I think his biggest issues seem to be between the ears. When you leave multiple matches after losses walking a good ways away from your coaches you have a problem. He needs to fix that first.
Not the only one to notice. Also, I cant remember what match it was earlier in year but I distinctly recall a moment in the match where Bradys head made contact with his opponents head and for a few seconds he looked off like he was trying to regain some senses.
I fully understand the knee wrap. I can see how that can explain the loss to Spadafora Saturday morning, maybe Joe just wasn't comfortable. That being said, he wrestles too excited and takes himself out of a good position putting himself in a bad position. That has nothing to do with being injured.
Case in point, in the latest match, he hits a beautiful counter to the body lock for a six point move. Instead of getting chest to chest and getting his weight back and up on his toes, he gets excited and is moving all around resulting in him getting too high and rolled for a six point move. Had he stayed calm, he probably gets the fall. Worse case he is up 6 to 3 going to the third with riding time.
The excitability needs to be corrected. No doubt he is very talented, he has to be to hit some of the moves he does.
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