Nelson Jr. had a rough spring camp cycle - many are speculating that his stock could be dropping, possibly even with PSU's staff.
Interestingly enough, Ryan put in a FC this morning for 3* DB Jordan Allen from Louisiana to the good guys.
The OSU guys on Eleven Warriors recently expressed that they no longer have much confidence in 4* OT Aamil Wagner attending OSU. Sounds like PSU, UK, & ND have made recent surges and OSU isn't the perceived leader any longer.
THIS👆...why should the goal be set lower than "Dominate the State" just because the goal isn't always reached?I'd rather define "Dominate the State" as a goal. Coaches like others set goals. Like people in every walk of life, sometimes we achieve and sometimes we don't.
42 offers with LSU and Miami as the perceived leaders.Interestingly enough, Ryan put in a FC this morning for 3* DB Jordan Allen from Louisiana to the good guys.
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I beg to differ glov. When your coach comes into the school with his cute little "doninate the state" mantra he better get the tops in the state. If he doesn't in a given year, fair game for reports to keep score how he is doing. This really is part of the story, Franklin didn't recruit particularly well last year, in state or out of state, but they are doing a wonderful job this year. No better example of that then getting singleton, a top player, in the state coming to PSU. Promises made, promises kept.
Got to love (hate) Adam Friedman!
After missing on the top nine players in the state last year, including players like five-star legacy prospect Nolan Rucci, and Rivals100 players Kyle McCord, Marvin Harrison Jr., Jeremiah Trotter Jr., Elliot Donald, and Derrick Davis, James Franklin and his staff are turning it around.
Just had to throw in a healthy dose of negativity when talking about Singleton.
Is it really a 'miss' if we were not interested in them or they interested in us?
Just because they live in Pa. does not mean we missed on them.
How does 42 offers translate to 3 stars?
Has Nelson had other bad camps than the one where he and no one else could keep Saunders from doing whatever he wanted?I don't think the Wagner-OSU relationship was ever strong on either side. I mentioned a few weeks ago that Wagner was very much open......A lot of assumptions he was OSU bound when he got his offer because he's an Ohio kid, but OSU has a few other OTs rated higher and apparently Wagner is looking for a program with a different vibe than OSU. Should benefit smaller town teams like ND and PSU (and UK's OL coach has a strong relationship with several midwestern OL prospects).
On Nelson......yes, hasn't really performed terribly well on the summer circuit thus far. South Carolina could be a player here.
INteresting on the Jordan Allen thing. Seems like Louisville and Miami are the biggest players in his recruitment. Might be an indicator that the staff is looking beyond Nelson if they're going after Allen. Particularly since I imagine KJ Winston is still in play.
Not sure if PSU will get either of the RB prospects you mention, but Ramon Brown's commitment date is Friday (in only 2 days)...IF PSU was still in play for both then an interesting dynamic may have already played out behind the scenes.Has Nelson had other bad camps than the one where he and no one else could keep Saunders from doing whatever he wanted?
Wagner would be an awesome get IMO. He looks like an athlete to me more than most OL.
Jordan Allen may be a tough pull without a visit.
I also feel like Kaytron Allen may be joining the fray. He had his date locked in before Singleton announced and then as soon as Allen puts a commitment date out there, Ramon Brown does. Almost like dominoes falling here. We're only taking 2 and commit 1 just dropped. Then prospects 2 and 3 immediately announce their commitment dates.
That's exactly what I think occurred. I believe Allen announced his commitment date first. If we get him, it is likely Brown was told we're filled up. If we get Brown, it is likely Allen told PSU that he was headed elsewhere.Not sure if PSU will get either of the RB prospects you mention, but Ramon Brown's commitment date is Friday (in only 2 days)...IF PSU was still in play for both then an interesting dynamic may have already played out behind the scenes.
Depends how many of them are commitable offers.How does 42 offers translate to 3 stars?
I think this is a clue; this article and here's why:
When Singleton committed, INSTANTLY there were film analysis, interviews from various people, film of his soph. & junior seasons, etc. It was a miracle! Instantaneous it was!
BAM!
This was just seconds after his live CBS announcement.
You guys, and you know who you are, knew it in advance and prepared your stuff for us very well for all to enjoy!
I'm just reading the tea leaves.
I'm sure you are all doing your prep work now or have already finished it.
Are we still in the running for Alex Van Sumeren? It would be nice to add another big body to go with Kaleb Artis.3-weeks ago, one of the recruiting expert writers wrote this:
Penn State Football: 5 must-land recruits for Nittany Lions in 2022
Penn State football is on a roll in the 2022 recruiting class and here are five more recruits the Nittany Lions need to land.saturdayblitz.com
Looks like all MSU for Van Sumeren.Are we still in the running for Alex Van Sumeren? It would be nice to add another big body to go with Kaleb Artis.
If true Seider should get a raise. The man knows how to corral running backs.fwiw Dohn with a CB for Kaytron Allen to PSU, making it 3 CB on one site and 3 FC's on another...
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If that is the case, of course not...but if you simply click on Kaytron Allen's profile without logging in you can see the 3 CB's listed, so although the official analyst posts and comments are behind a paywall, simply being able to view the CB is not currently monetized (except for any ad revenue of course).Can’t imagine 247 Sports likes this Penn State Sports Talk Twitter account telling everyone VIP information.
Agree. He not only can corral them but he must be able to coach them as well. Journey coming out of high school had potential but Seider brought it out. He became a monster. My heart still aches for him as I would have liked to see what his future held. Best of luck Journey!If true Seider should get a raise. The man knows how to corral running backs.
The offensive skill positions in this class are very strong already. If you add Allen, maybe even Clemens, good Lord, that is an incredible haul of talent.Singleton and Allen would be pretty close to a best-case scenario going into June, right? Oklahoma, Texas, and Alabama have some spectacular RB classes for 2022 right now but have to love what Penn State did if those 2 end up coming on board.
Whether it is related to the recent Kaytron Allen speculation or not, the original CB for Ramon Brown to PSU has now been flipped to VT.
Any likelihood that Enai White makes it to the Whiteout game?
So, Pettaway is no longer an option?fwiw Dohn with a CB for Kaytron Allen to PSU, making it 3 CB on one site and 3 FC's on another...
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CorrectSo, Pettaway is no longer an option?