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2023-24. Starting lineup

Anyone putting any money on Starocci coming back? I didn't think he sounded too eager to return. And after his performance at us open (injury aside) kinda shows he's got some progress to be made in freestyle. Plus, wrestling 174 is gonna be a pain in the ass whilst cutting to 74kg.
He’ll return for at least one more year - whether he skips this year or not. He’s not turning down chance to be a 4 timer

Starocci coming back is this year’s Kerk’s hammy issue of 2022
 
I think the chances of him wrestling next year will be decided upon his performance getting on the national team, with a keen eye on competing for a medal, not just making the team.

I give him a 75% chance of wrestling next season 25% chance of any Oly RS.

I see a 100% chance he returns to compete for title #4 either next year or the following.

If he is able to get past Arnold at Iowa and win #4 (wink, wink), I am not confident the draw is strong enough to pull him back to try for #5. Maybe only 20% despite the pull of being "the one and only in NCAA history" brings with it.

Amazingly, the team remains solid regardless of what permutations present at 174/184 over the next three years.
 
I think the chances of him wrestling next year will be decided upon his performance getting on the national team, with a keen eye on competing for a medal, not just making the team.

I give him a 75% chance of wrestling next season 25% chance of any Oly RS.

I see a 100% chance he returns to compete for title #4 either next year or the following.

If he is able to get past Arnold at Iowa and win #4 (wink, wink), I am not confident the draw is strong enough to pull him back to try for #5. Maybe only 20% despite the pull of being "the one and only in NCAA history" brings with it.

Amazingly, the team remains solid regardless of what permutations present at 174/184 over the next three years.
Solid meaning run away favorite.
 
Anyone putting any money on Starocci coming back? I didn't think he sounded too eager to return. And after his performance at us open (injury aside) kinda shows he's got some progress to be made in freestyle. Plus, wrestling 174 is gonna be a pain in the ass whilst cutting to 74kg.
I don't think he is coming back. Makes sense getting mesi now more than ever as Facundo can slide up
 
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Wasn’t sure which thread to put this in, but the parent of one of my wrestlers posted some photos of a clinic her son attended where Aaron Brooks and Carter were clinicians. I noticed in the photos that Carter’s right knee was in an ACE bandage and he was on crutches. Did he have surgery recently or was it some sort of tweaked muscle type situation?
 
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Wasn’t sure which thread to put this in, but the parent of one of my wrestlers posted some photos of a clinic her son attended where Aaron Brooks and Carter were clinicians. I noticed in the photos that Carter’s right knee was in an ACE bandage and he was on crutches. Did he have surgery recently or was it some sort of tweaked muscle type situation?

He was injured at the Open. Hopefully not too seriously.
 
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I don't think he is coming back. Makes sense getting mesi now more than ever as Facundo can slide up
Interesting. I think it is far too early for Carter to have made up his mind just yet. If Carter has certain personality traits, he is an ultra confident self promoter as well. If he were done he would be singing it from the rooftops, and headlining his future. I don't think we will know much until November.

However, I will admit where there is smoke there can be fire. Just to speculate, if Carter has told Cael he's 90% sure he is done with free, the acquisition of Mesinbrink makes much more sense, certainly more sense than anyone thinking Facundo is a bust or in need of competition for the job. Both Mesi and Alex are integral to the plan.

My money remains squarely in Carter goes for 4 and we have ultimate redshirt flexibility across 4 guys and far too many scenarios to map out to worry about where Mesi fits, and who goes 174 next year if Carter is on ORS.
 
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This has a similar feel to RBY last year, Carter just needs a little extra motivation.

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Since the kid doesn't talk meaningless shyt, I would think this tweet is the strongest indication he intends to wrestle next year.

Griffith v Starocci should have everybody's speculative interest. In reality it should be as hotly contested as a Mikey Labriola v Carter final.
 
My picks:

125 Stallard
133 Stallgao
141 Stallett
149 Van Stall
157 Stallaines
165 Stallenbrink
174 Stallrocci
184 Trustall
197 Stallks
285 Kerkstall
Proving the broken clock theory, I can live w/ those nicknames for 184 & 197.

I dunno if y'all saw, but Mekhi did announce his return for his last year of elligiblity. Still think he's the only horse in the barn capable of beating Carter--maybe O'Toole if he goes up and adds good weight without losing speed. And I feel pretty confident Carter will be in the lineup next year--just a hunch.
 
Since the kid doesn't talk meaningless shyt, I would think this tweet is the strongest indication he intends to wrestle next year.

Griffith v Starocci should have everybody's speculative interest. In reality it should be as hotly contested as a Mikey Labriola v Carter final.
if it does happen, hope carter has the same results as the labriola matches :).
 
Carter was hurt before the Open and probably never should have entered. He was seen this past week walking around without any support or hint of injury.
He was at the PSWC Awards Banquet walking slowly and with a very slight limp. Didn't seem like the injury was very serious. He had to make the walk to the podium on several occasions. :)
 
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Have you seen Carter lately? He has the look of a deer in the headlights. No way he comes back to the humiliation of loses to at least two different wrestlers. He's only a 3xer because there really hasn't been much competition at his weight.

Both Griffith and and Arnold will have his number next year, and he knows it. Have you seen what Arnold can do, let alone say? That kid is downright scary, and he forms the foundation for Iowa's next run. There is a good chance Carter is out in the semis next year, heck with some bad luck he doesn't even AA. All of this has to be on his mind, he really has no other choice but to duck next year, and thereafter he's just too old.

PS - I don't suggest reading GIA while on the combo of Norco, Morphine, and Ambien. Even just a few minutes in that world is not so dissimilar to a walk in the twilight zone.

Carter has an unquenchable thurst for a challenge. Next year represents the largest, juiciest, dangling carrot since his first year. He can capture #4, beat another ex-champ, and make a young upstart eat his words. Simply Irresistible!
 
Not using an old model, but projecting next year's production

125 Howard 6th 10pts
133 Nagao 1st 22 points
141 Bartlett 3rd 14 pts
149 SVN 2nd 19 pts
157 Levi 1st 24 pts
165 Facundo 7th 7pts
174 Starocci 1st 24pts
184 Truax 1st 23 pts
197 Brooks 1st 24 pts
Hwt Kerkvliet 1st 24 pts

10 AAs
7 finalists
6 champs
191 points.

170 is easily in reach.
If this is your legitimate projection then I don't want to see you complain about HR fanatics ever again lmao
 
Have you seen Carter lately? He has the look of a deer in the headlights. No way he comes back to the humiliation of loses to at least two different wrestlers. He's only a 3xer because there really hasn't been much competition at his weight.

Both Griffith and and Arnold will have his number next year, and he knows it. Have you seen what Arnold can do, let alone say? That kid is downright scary, and he forms the foundation for Iowa's next run. There is a good chance Carter is out in the semis next year, heck with some bad luck he doesn't even AA. All of this has to be on his mind, he really has no other choice but to duck next year, and thereafter he's just too old.

PS - I don't suggest reading GIA while on the combo of Norco, Morphine, and Ambien. Even just a few minutes in that world is not so dissimilar to a walk in the twilight zone.

Carter has an unquenchable thurst for a challenge. Next year represents the largest, juiciest, dangling carrot since his first year. He can capture #4, beat another ex-champ, and make a young upstart eat his words. Simply pIrresistible!
Hell, I can't go on there at night when I am tired but can't sleep. If I went while slightly drug induced stupid I would never get off the site. There is so much shyt I want to respond to, and then I catch heck.
 
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If this is your legitimate projection then I don't want to see you complain about HR fanatics ever again lmao
My April fantasy projections are closer to a reality than any HR April production prediction offered over the past decade and a half.
 
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Hell, I can't go on there at night when I am tired but can't sleep. If I went while slightly drug induced stupid I would never get off the site. There is so much shyt I want to respond to, and then I catch heck.
Yeah but you would understand it all though right lmfao
 
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He’ll return for at least one more year - whether he skips this year or not. He’s not turning down chance to be a 4 timer

Starocci coming back is this year’s Kerk’s hammy issue of 2022
I can’t see him cracking the World Team for another 2 years.
Interesting. I think it is far too early for Carter to have made up his mind just yet. If Carter has certain personality traits, he is an ultra confident self promoter as well. If he were done he would be singing it from the rooftops, and headlining his future. I don't think we will know much until November.

However, I will admit where there is smoke there can be fire. Just to speculate, if Carter has told Cael he's 90% sure he is done with free, the acquisition of Mesinbrink makes much more sense, certainly more sense than anyone thinking Facundo is a bust or in need of competition for the job. Both Mesi and Alex are integral to the plan.

My money remains squarely in Carter goes for 4 and we have ultimate redshirt flexibility across 4 guys and far too many scenarios to map out to worry about where Mesi fits, and who goes 174 next year if Carter is on ORS.
Wouldn’t the “ultra confident self promoter” see more potential in moving forward (in whatever he pursues next) with 4 Nattys rather than 3? I can’t imagine he not locking that down.

And 5 titles trumps anything that anybody else could ever claim. Retiring as a 5 Star General has certain advantages over a 4 Star General. A “self promoter” will have to consider these things. We’ll see.
 
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