2024 NCAA's - Match/discussion threads (merged)

[SLUPSU]

Session 4 results

1: PENN STATE - 148
2: Michigan - 64.5
3: Iowa - 60

2023 Session 4 results

1: PENN STATE – 116.5
2: Iowa – 77.0
3: Cornell – 64.0

2022 Session 4 results

1: PENN STATE – 108.0
2: Michigan – 84.5
3: Arizona State – 63.5
4: Iowa – 62.0
5: Nebraska – 54.0

 

[SlipperyPete12]

Well, one last post for the night. Lol.

Final Matches:
141: #2 B.Bartlett vs. #1 J.Mendez (OHST)
157: #1 L.Haines vs. #2 J.Teemer (ASU)
165: #2 M.Mesenbrink vs. #4 D.Carr (ISU)
174: #9 C.Starocci vs. #6 R.Welsh (OHST)
197: #1 A.Brooks vs. #2 T.Hidlay (NCST)
285: #1 G.Kerkvliet vs. #10 L.Davidson (MICH)


Consi-Semi Matches:
consi-SF 149: #7 T.Kasak vs. #1 R.Lovett (NEB)
consi-SF 184: #6 B.Truax vs. #4 Munoz (ORST)

 

[David Keller]

kind of sick of these Burroughs 'buying teams' digs at PSU. hopefully the DT / JB MMA match will happen one of these days. Taylor seems to have no love lost for this guy

later on he talked about Michigan doing the same

 

[PAgeologist]

Bastida might have been a threat to Kerk. But seems he couldn't mentally recover from that heart-breaking, last-second loss to Davidson in the quarters. Just mentally tapped out for the blood round.

Who does Bastida think he is? Spencer Lee?

 

[Junglekitty]

Like Carter said, seeds don't matter. There are only three 1 vs 2 matchups, and we're in all three:

141. Mendez vs BB
157. Haines vs Teemer
197. Brooks vs Hidlay

There were an addition three number 1s to make it to the finals:
Fix, Keckeisen, and Kerk

There was one additional 2 seed to make it:
Psycho

Two 3 seeds
Ayala and Plott

Two 4 seeds
Henson and Carr

No 5 seeds

Two 6 seeds
Gomez and Welsh

No 7

One 8
Figs

One 9
Starocci

And the highest seeded wrestler to make the finals was a 10
Davison

 

[Psubiomed]

A chance tomorrow to avenge losses in the placing bouts

 

[CJFisJoePaII]

The complaint is about guys like Mason Beckman who drop to a knee from 25 ft away.

If you're disengaged from the opponent and drop to a knee, it's stalling.

Don't disagree - the Ref can tell him such (i.e., you're inactive.... last warning, next time it's stalling...).

I'm sure. My response was just to point out the sillyness of judging Carter's percentage when in fact it is something that can never be determined.

Exactly. Carter wanted to wrestle at B1Gs, and apparently his private physician was telling him he was good to go...., but you have know-it-alls on here telling everyone they know exactly the condition of his knee when they are talking completely out of their lame asses.

 

[BruceK-PSU83]

Really impressed by Kasak. He is wrestling the best he has all year. I can't wait to see how Cael fits him into the lineup in coming years. Tyler is the real deal.

The immediate plan for Kasak (in 2024-25) is likely a redshirt. That's assuming SVN makes a full recovery and can stay healthy, which I sure hope will be the case

 

[SLUPSU]

148 points.

Six finalists. If they all win by decision, it’s +24 and PSU sets a new scoring record.

If five of the six finalists win, it’s +20. That’s 168. A win by either Kasak or Truax in the consolation semifinals is +3.5 and it’s a new scoring record.

If four of the six finalists win and both Kasak and Truax win their consolation semifinal, it’s +23 and Penn State sets a new scoring record.

None of the above includes bonus and I haven’t talked about 3rd place for either Kasak or Truax.

The scoring record is definitely in play.

I believe that the 3rd place matches only get 1 advancement point.

 

[kps7987]

Don't disagree - the Ref can tell him such (i.e., you're inactive.... last warning, next time it's stalling...).


Exactly. Carter wanted to wrestle at B1Gs, and apparently his private physician was telling him he was good to go...., but you have know-it-alls on here telling everyone they know exactly the condition of his knee when they are talking completely out of their lame asses.

Tell me you don't understand the intent of my post without telling me you don't understand the intent of my post.

 

[BruceK-PSU83]

Cormier and Burroughs are great together. I hope they are on again tomorrow.

Disagree, but to each his own.

 

[CJFisJoePaII]

I predict the bonus point Kerk gave away with 15 seconds to go by walking straight out of bounds will leave us a 1/2 point shy of the scoring record tomorrow.

Thoughts? 🤔😎🤣

For phuck-sake, who gives a $hit about a release point with 12 seconds left in a semi-final match to wrestle for a National Title?????????????? Some of you people are so f'ing lame, honestly it's sad.

 

[mcpat]

Tomorrow @ 10:00am Central/11:00am Eastern:

149 Kasak vs 1 Lovett
184 Truax vs 4 Munoz

In both cases, the winner advances to 3rd place match and the loser wrestles for 5th

 

[CSauertiegPSU]

Bastida might have been a threat to Kerk. But seems he couldn't mentally recover from that heart-breaking, last-second loss to Davidson in the quarters. Just mentally tapped out for the blood round.

Turns out he got a (major, gross) ouchie

 

[BruceK-PSU83]

I cannot believe Bernie Truax IV is really gonna finish 4th 4 times.

Pretty sure 4 is his favorite number. For instance, he is now a 4X AA.

 

[CSauertiegPSU]

Tomorrow @ 10:00am Central/11:00am Eastern:

149 Kasak vs 1 Lovett
184 Truax vs 4 Munoz

In both cases, the winner advances to 3rd place match and the loser wrestles for 5th

As much as four points on the table for each of them. Would get 3 just by winning the first match

 

[CJFisJoePaII]

Tell me you don't understand the intent of my post without telling me you don't understand the intent of my post.

I'm not really trying to "tell you" anything.

 

[mcpat]

I believe that the 3rd place matches only get 1 advancement point.

Right now Kasak’s and Truax’s team points include placing 6th. That’s 6 points. If they win the consolation semifinal, they’re assured of 4th place. That’s 9 points. There’s also a 0.5 advancement point for moving on to the consolation final. So a win in the consolation semifinal is 3.5 team points.

A win in the consolation final is 1 point (10 points instead of 9). So is a win in the 5th place match (7 points instead of 6).

Plus bonus.

 

[CSauertiegPSU]

As much as four points on the table for each of them. Would get 3 just by winning the first match

Plus any bonus, obviously

 

[palmettolion]

I believe that the 3rd place matches only get 1 advancement point.

Speaking of 3rd place, I'd like to take the time to congratulate Iowa for pushing hard and hand fighting their way back up into 3rd place. I'm willing to bet they could even tie up 2nd tomorrow. Well done Hawks.

 

[SLUPSU]

Right now their points include placing 6th. That’s 6 points. If they win the consolation semifinal, they’re assured of 4th place. That’s 9 points. There’s also a 0.5 advancement point for moving on to the consolation final. So a win in the consolation semifinal is 3.5 team points.

A win in the consolation final is 1 point 10 points instead of 9). So is a win in the 5th place match (7 points instead of 6).

Plus bonus.

I know, it seemed like you were counting 3.5 for third place (I didn't check your math). One point for 7th also.

 

[BruceK-PSU83]

Oh for Christ sake. Shultz is a world class Greco guy and one mistake and Greg gets pinned. Get over it.

How many emojis do you need to recognize jest/sarcasm? More than three, apparently.

 

[The Japanese Whizzer]

Taking top there has to be one of the dumbest coaching decisions of the tournament.

0-0, decision is can I hold him for 60 secs or can I get out in 120 secs. He and his coaches know where their percentage was, unconditional choice but he still had 74 secs to get a td. And didn’t.

 

[mcpat]

I know, it seemed like you were counting 3.5 for third place (I didn't check your math).

If they win their consolation semifinal it’s 3.5 more team points each. 0.5 for advancement, 3 for placing 4th (at worst) instead of 6th (at worst).

 

[GableBeer]

will they rearrange the order tomorrow so Aaron and Carter wrestle their matches last?

 

[WaffleShopper]

will they rearrange the order tomorrow so Aaron and Carter wrestle their matches last?

I don't think they would move the weights around but I wouldn't be surprised if they put 197 last.

 

[APSPSUwrestlingfan]

will they rearrange the order tomorrow so Aaron and Carter wrestle their matches last?

All they have to do is start at 285. Keep the folks in their seats! 170 is in play.

 

[NittanyChris]

Yeah. I think they end on AB vs Hidlay.

 

[GableBeer]

I don't think they would move the weights around but I wouldn't be surprised if they put 197 last.

I think for sure 97 will be last, I just think it would be a disservice to not put Carter 2nd to last he’s earned the right for special arrangements.

 

[El-Jefe]

Figs
Vito
Beau
Gomez
Levi
Psycho
One-Leeged Carter
Keckeisen
Aaron
Kerk

 

[El-Jefe]

I don't think they would move the weights around but I wouldn't be surprised if they put 197 last.

197 has to be last. There's no team drama other than possibly the record.

Plus ESPN is always about individual star power.

And depending on how things shake out, 4x Aaron might clinch the record.

 

[Creek Side]

Figs
Vito
Beau
Gomez
Levi
Psycho
One-Leeged Carter
Keckeisen
Aaron
Kerk

 

[CSauertiegPSU]

0-0, decision is can I hold him for 60 secs or can I get out in 120 secs. He and his coaches know where their percentage was, unconditional choice but he still had 74 secs to get a td. And didn’t.

Have to hold him for at *minimum* 60 seconds. An escape would still tie the match in practice.

 

[dicemen99]

Yes, 33 points available in tomorrow's matches ( plus bonus):

• Finals win = 4 placement points, 0 advancement points
• Consys semi win = 3 placement points, .5 advancement points
• 3rd or 5th win = 1 placement point

Plus any bonus.

It will be close. Could come down to a medical forfeit in a placing match - not super rare - which will have the desired effect over at GIA.

The irony will be buried over there amid the resulting gnashing.

 

[RealMicah]

 

[mcpat]

Figs
Vito
Beau
Gomez
Levi
Psycho
One-Leeged Carter
Keckeisen
Aaron
Kerk

That would be a new scoring record

 

[RealMicah]

 

[RealMicah]

 

[The Japanese Whizzer]

I could watch Mesenbrink and Caliendo wrestle all day. That's what it should look like.

For which one? Messenbrink I assume.

 

[Ja1339]

Mitch vs Carr. Gonna be super fun!! My money is on psycho of course 😀

Carr my favorite non-PSU wrestler, but Mitchell quickly becoming one of my all time favorites in the Cael era.