African-American athletes threaten to strike at Mizzou
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You have to remember that there's a lot of PSU fans from rural PA, and some of those attitudes are still prevalent in some of those areas. Unfortunately, they also post online. You should read the freaking facebook comments any time Onward State posts an article that has to do with race. The bad thing about that is those comments are saved online, as opposed to hearsay from someone who attended the Blue White game.
What exactly makes your statement "reality" when you present no argument against a legitimate concern that I and probably millions of people have?
I and Dr. Martin Luther King disagree with fighting racism with racist attacks. Is there a reason why they can't simply call attention to whatever racial issues they perceive without attacking someone publically for being a white male? I think that they would be much more effective and have a lot more support to their cause.
I don't want to see anyone of any color face racial intimidation or slight but this is exactly what the protesters are doing. Any intellectually honest person that wants to fight racism can't consciously support fighting racism by heaping more racism on top of it. Tell my why demanding that people fight racism without bringing new racist attacks into the equation isn't a reasonable position. I'm open to logic and honest discussion.
We don't accept minorities as equals. When I was in school they got tuition discounts and other perks. They got those regardless of their economic background, regardless of their upbringing, regardless of any measure of diversity of ideas, they got them solely on the color of their skin.
Ahhh, the good ol' "being a white man in America is SO tough these days! I really have it rough and minorities get all the perks" routine!
They should give up their black privilege and demand 85% of the football scholarships go to non-blacks.
You miss the point. Ones lot in life is not based on skin color. Diversity is not skin color.
If there are advantages given in admission or financial, it should be entirely needs based IMO. Should a poor minority have opportunities that a poor white kid shouldn't? What about the child of a minority entertainer or pro athlete? Do they deserve advantages in admission or financially that are not available to a poor white kid? If you base help for the disadvantaged on the color of skin, are well to do minorities offended by being labelled disadvantaged?
I think that as a society we are smarter than systematically basing decisions about people on the color of our skin. I see any program that measures or qualifies by color of skin as regressive. We are regressing our society with these ideas. We as a people are better than that.
Black privilege. Yeah man, black people got it SO easy huh? People like you say things like this because you failed at succeeding as a white man in America. When you're a white guy who's succeeded in America (read: isn't a complete moron) you don't need to worry and complain about minorities and blame them for your shortcomings.
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Where did I say I was Pro affirmative action? I'm just saying anyone who acts like it's tough to be a white man in Anerica is an idiot and is most likely blaming minorities for their lack of success when they are the ones who've failed despite the fact being a white male in America is freaking awesome.
"If you're a white male, and you don't think you have it great.... You're an ASSHOLE!" - Louis CK
Please tell me how these students can obtain justice? Your characterization of people that strike is narrow minded and foolish.
wow, lots of not so subtle racism masking itself as "equality" on this thread. kind of making the point of the students at Missouri
Ah...the ol' "MLK would agree with me if he could" gambit.
Love it.
Thanks for pigeon-holing yourself. Again.
Just reported that the president is resigning.
I truly have difficulty believing that anyone can be so simple minded as to believe that being born white means you have to be an idiot not to be a success and being born black means you have to be some kind of prodigy to make it.
I do have to say that being born American is an incredible advantage but the color of your skin is not as much of a determinant as other factors like economic status, family environment, etc. But there are many minorities in America who were born privileged and there are millions of whites who were born without much of a chance. To generalize is just an egregious error or dishonesty.
But back to the original point, the Missouri students are misguided by throwing a racial and sexual bias into their very first demand. Why in the world would educated people think that you should end racism with more racism? Their message is conceptually flawed. Why not just say that we tolerate no forms of racism? That I and most rational people can support.
Why don't you tell me about MLK and the racism that he applied to solving the issue? I only advocate that we should not attempt to cure racism with even more racism. Let's hear your objections to that.
Wow. For too long college athletes have been unable to leverage their tremendous collective voice to enact change at their universities. Good on these kids for taking a stand and putting their financial livelihood on the line to speak out for something they believe in. I know this news wasn't exclusively because of the athletes' protest, but it's hard to deny that it was a major tipping point.
Interesting headline in the Wash. Post: "How the Missouri football team just took down its university president." I guess so long as the cause is right, it's OK for the football program to have that much power.
It's not the players' fault that market conditions have already made them the most valuable individuals at the university. To the players' credit, they realized the tremendous influence and voice they have already been given by the public and used that influence to push for change at the university that's important to them. They used their unique platform as student-athletes to get involved in the university community - is it better for the players to have stayed cordoned off in their football building doing nothing but football-related activities, or is it better for the players to actually get involved in the student body they are supposed to be a part of?
And of course the comparing everything to the Sandusky scandal has to happen.
Oh wait, some loons here call it the BOT Scandal*, right?
*This is not to excuse the actions of the BOT, but if you're actually honest with yourselves, the scandal revolves around that sicko Sandusky
IDK about this whole Black/White thing.....
But I DO know this...if there should be some measures taken to provide greater opportunity to folks who face an uphill battle......
WE ALL should give PhillyPhan21 every possible advantage.....because, as the song goes, "Life is hard - but it's hardest - when you're dumb".
But I DO know this...if there should be some measures taken to provide greater opportunity to folks who face an uphill battle......
WE ALL should give PhillyPhan21 every possible advantage.....because, as the song goes, "Life is hard - but it's hardest - when you're dumb".
My post was not a commentary on Missouri at all. PSU has been routinely chastised for 4 years because of it's so-called far-too-powerful football program and I thought it was telling to see the reaction of at least one mainstream media source to another football program's power and its ability to force its university president into resigning...only a day or two after getting involved. Now that is real power.
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You're right, I guess I never realized how tough it was for me, being white in America and all. If only I were a minority, I'd be much better off. They got it so easy. So entitled. How dare they act like they be treated like human beings and not have racial slurs hurled their way! They should STFU and entertain us!
Sarcasm.
Butt hurt, much? Given that in the Trayvon thread, you kept bringing up Trayvons suspension from school to say he's a thug while conveniently ignoring Zimmerman's arrest for attacking a cop, I know exactly where you stand on these issues.
Why, one need look no further than this very board, where our school's President is still criticized and mocked for having the guile to visibly support black students' right to protest last school year. And God help us if the football team doesn't win enough games under Franklin's tenure for some fans' liking...
You should have read some of the Onward State comments last year. Whether or not you agree with the protest, they have a right to protest. These people wanted the protesters expelled, beaten, etc. And don't even get me started on the dog whistling.
First, do your homework. I am no friend of the police. Second, Trayvon's issues are facts. Finally, I've lived in big cities and in rural areas. Both are equally prejudiced and racist. It is you that displayed prejudice, not me.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2013/05/28/george-zimmermans-relevant-past/
I didn't say Trayvon was an angel. But you only mentioned his marijuana smoking while conveniently leaving George Zimmerman's past out. Then had the nerve to say "you actually followed the case" to try to boost your credibility. That you conveniently left out Zimmerman's past just goes to show your agenda.
If only we could get Barron and BoT to do this:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...ent-tim-wolfe-resigns-football-boycott-to-end
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...ent-tim-wolfe-resigns-football-boycott-to-end
What are you even talking about? I am talking about how to reduce or end racism. Why are focused on hurting? I'm talking about reducing it. Also, why are you afraid to answer my question? If you are intellectually honest, you can answer what I had written that you responded to in opposition.
Why don't you tell me about MLK and the racism that he applied to solving the issue? I only advocate that we should not attempt to cure racism with even more racism. Let's hear your objections to that.
I do recall a black lab partner tell me when I was at PSU that he was frustrated with some of the affirmative action stuff (as I recall (and this was ca. 1977)) he said "I want to get into Stanford (Med School) because I've earned it, not because I'm black". I've never forgotten that.
I am really uncomfortable with the precedent that sets. Rule by mob--even if they are right--is not a good thing. Because at some point the mob will be wrong--but powerless to admit it or stop it.
