Not sure about that. Urban won even at places where he was outgunned/outspent. He’s morally challenged but he won everywhere and his teams are typically very tough minded.
All is not well in Buckeye Land
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Maybe at Utah, but who knows what he was doing there behind the scenes. He wasn’t being outspent at Florida or OSU, that’s for sure. College football is filled with “football geniuses”, many of them know more football than Urban, yet only a couple win all the time….hmm, I wonder why. And why didn’t their football genius carry over to the NFL?
After OSU's Offensive showing yesterday, I think many OSU followers would agree with you
Turned Bowling Green around in an instant. He’s a fantastic coach. Garbage guy, but great coach
Again, there are a ton of very good coaches in college football, but only a few reach “elite” level consistently….they’re doing something beyond what everyone else is doing and now that they can’t, there doesn’t seem to be any more elite coaches (except the one who’s outspending everyone else openly).
I didn't see the game where they beat Clemson. Please enlighten me.
I gotta think some OSU big $ guys and alumni have reached out to Marcus Freeman or his agent to gauge his interest in coming home. In my mind, that’s the OSU slam dunk hire. He keeps Hartline to run the offense and maybe keeps Knowles to handle the defense.
I pray they hire Marcus Freeman--that would be a disaster
If Freeman leaves it will be for Chicago though--we aren't that lucky
I could be wrong and thinking of someone else, but didn't Buckeye grad Freeman slam OSU a couple of years ago over the way they admitted football players ? I think they have parted ways
Well, after the buy out, how much money will they have left over for the players and assistant coaches?
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Harbaugh said the exact same thing re: Lloyd Carr’s teams and Michigan ignored it when it was time to bring Jimmy home
I would think they'd find someone to cover most of that 37M--but it's also why I think they'd promote Hartline--he's cheap with unlimited upside
Where is Gus Johnson with the "Captain Jack" Sawyer overdone announcer hyped call of that play???
Think I've read $37M? The rumors have been saying the boosters feel that's too high and they aren't ready to pay that much, and that Day is likely sticking around for now.
I’ll say one: Jack Sawyer could play on my team any day.
Kelly did a nice job against us especially in the second half.
They have 2 5* QBs on the bench. On the ensuing down after Howard got hurt, they sent Brown out at QB before deciding on a time out. Howard came out with thumbs up and did a few jogs and was then put back in.
I just think they thought they could bully the ball on Michigan and never retreated from that.
Vrabel would be a stylistic shift for sure, but I'm not sure he would be interested in recruiting. His claim to fame is 2 playoff wins in his second year and never won another. Buckeye alum though, but is that important?
We will see what Day is made of as he recovers from this loss and prepares for the playoffs. He is coaching for his job now. They can still win it all.
Here's the interesting thing. If we win on Saturday we are probably the #1 seed (between us and Texas if they beat Georgia). If we are #1 then we could play OSU (assuming they win their first rd game) in our first game in the 1 vs 8 quarterfinal. Day would take that draw all day and twice on Sunday because as horrible as he is versus Michigan he cannot lose against us. My guess is Day is a big Nittany Lions fan this weekend.
Here's the interesting thing. If we win on Saturday we are probably the #1 seed (between us and Texas if they beat Georgia). If we are #1 then we could play OSU (assuming they win their first rd game) in our first game in the 1 vs 8 quarterfinal. Day would take that draw all day and twice on Sunday because as horrible as he is versus Michigan he cannot lose against us. My guess is Day is a big Nittany Lions fan this weekend.
I doubt we would be in ghe same bracket. Or at least not until semi finals.
They would have to put us at 2 then if we win because I think OSU is headed for an 8 or 9.
Ohio State Tennesse and Indiana are 8-10. There's no way if we're the 1 seed Ohio State isn't in that 8v9 game. They beat Indiana. Killed them.
They have repeatedly said they aren't considering rematch.
Just like Penn State-Oregon is a likely semi final rematch if they both get there.
At OSU you just can't lose to Michigan the way he has and survive there. I'm thinking he graciously blows out.
Day is very fortunate that they will make the playoffs and have another game under their belt. If they win a playoff game fans will still complain about UM but a strong run in the postseason will temper the issue and they may survive another year. But the fan temperature is incredibly high in Oh Hi Ya.
If they lose in the first round Day is done. Book it.
Especially losing to this year's really subpar Michigan team when they were a 20-point favorite. It's just unreal how Day chokes in the big games and against Michigan especially when - many times - he has equal or better talent. Unless he wins the NC, I don't think you'll see him at OSU next year as they pay his $37 million buyout
One of the bro club sports show announcers said who he is friends with a UM coach. He said he sent the coach a simple text congratulating him on the win. The exuberant coach texted back that the UM coaching staff simply could not believe what tOSU tried to do on offense. That tOSU played right into UM's hands by challenging their front seven trying to prove that tOSU was "tougher" than UM. Sports talk shows are going nuts today. The implication is that Day lost sight of "winning" and decided he wanted to "prove a point" resulting in one of the worst losses in tOSU history.
Radio show in CLE joked that Day was so concerned about Michigan stealing the play-calls, that they just ran the same four plays over and over. LOL.
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I don't see him bowing out voluntarily and I guess I'm in the minority here in not thinking his job is in jeopardy...yet...though, granted, a lot of Buckeye fans are demanding his head.
That said, if they implode in their 1st-round playoff game, the heat will definitely be turned up several notches.
Here’s my conspiracy take. This was his year. ScUM was down and suckeyes loaded. And suckeyes will lose a ton of talent and should be down next year.
Day doesn’t want be around next year and have his resume take a further hit. But he won’t step down since he had such a massive buyout coming.
So he tanks the playoff game bigly, blames it on all the distractions from the loss and fight. Then gets fired and cashes the check!😵💫
They're saying the exact same thing on the OSU sites and the Columbus news stations. My son - an OSU grad and $$$ donator -- went to the game and stayed with friends afterwards, said that one of the Columbus TV stations (CBS?) really went after Ryan Cooper Day and his trying to prove a point that they weren't soft - especially with a makeshift OL after the 2 or 3 season ending injuries on the unit.
Many of the huge $$$ donators at OSU have seen enough in big games and against Michigan when Cooper-Day puckers up. That's a serious issue when the money dries up. I just have to believe Day is gone and can't believe he regroups his team to make a run in the Playoffs. Heck, they might not even win their 1st game with the way things are in Buckeye Land
His only hope is that a) it is post-game emotion and b) they make a run in the playoffs. tOSU is built on NIL and if the NIL dries up, that would be a problem. Maybe George Clooney will write an op-ed for the new york times?
The more pathetic thing though is yes he totally chokes against Michigan but is money against us. It's like no matter how good they are they will lose to Michigan but come hell or high water he will beat Penn State.
Against scUM the referines call a cleaner game. Against us…..not so much…..
Day's playoff record isn't very good either. I think they are 1-3.
I know. At least they get there.
I'd argue that tOSU has had a distinct talent level discrepancy over PSU with the expectation of the two Saquon years where PSU blew it. But when there is comparable talent, and coaching really differentiates, it isn't there. As someone said, CJF is just Ryan Day lite.
Lou Holtz was right. He said they weren’t tough last year and Day got all pissy about it.
I gotta tell you...I think this whole they-were-trying-to-prove-they-weren't-soft line, which seems to have gained a lot of favor since the loss, is imaginary. People have come up with it as a theory to explain what happened.
I think the reality is that they went into the game with a basically conservative game plan which took into account the weather conditions, the look that Michigan's defensive secondary was giving them, and Michigan's own deficiencies on offense which were quite apparent during the game.
They knew they wouldn't need a lot of points to win...and they didn't. But what they didn't count on was their kicker missing two fairly easy field goal tries...and their QB playing a bad game while making a couple critical mistakes.
That said, no question, the play-calling deserves...and has gotten...a lot of criticism. Heck, Klatt was very critical of it during the game. But I think their game plan was designed not to show how tough they were but rather to win the game.
Spin, I gave you a thumbs up because your post is entertaining...though I assume tongue-in-cheek...
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