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All is not well in Buckeye Land

Urban wouldn’t have any more success than anyone else….he wouldn’t have the “financial” advantage he had back when he coached because it’s legal now. That’s why Saban got out as well. When you’re one of the only ones doing it, it’s easy to stand out, but when everyone else can do it, it’s won’t be quite as successful.
Not sure about that. Urban won even at places where he was outgunned/outspent. He’s morally challenged but he won everywhere and his teams are typically very tough minded.
 
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Not sure about that. Urban won even at places where he was outgunned/outspent. He’s morally challenged but he won everywhere and his teams are typically very tough minded.
Maybe at Utah, but who knows what he was doing there behind the scenes. He wasn’t being outspent at Florida or OSU, that’s for sure. College football is filled with “football geniuses”, many of them know more football than Urban, yet only a couple win all the time….hmm, I wonder why. And why didn’t their football genius carry over to the NFL?
 
Maybe at Utah, but who knows what he was doing there behind the scenes. He wasn’t being outspent at Florida or OSU, that’s for sure. College football is filled with “football geniuses”, many of them know more football than Urban, yet only a couple win all the time….hmm, I wonder why. And why didn’t their football genius carry over to the NFL?
Turned Bowling Green around in an instant. He’s a fantastic coach. Garbage guy, but great coach
 
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Turned Bowling Green around in an instant. He’s a fantastic coach. Garbage guy, but great coach
Again, there are a ton of very good coaches in college football, but only a few reach “elite” level consistently….they’re doing something beyond what everyone else is doing and now that they can’t, there doesn’t seem to be any more elite coaches (except the one who’s outspending everyone else openly).
 
I agree but have to wonder if things had been different if tOSU recruited Roark or Cam Ward instead of Howard after they lost confidence in Kyle McCord (who, BTW, led the Syracuse team to a win over Clemson yesterday). When asked about it, McCord basically said "Everything comes full circle".

I didn't see the game where they beat Clemson. Please enlighten me.
 
I agree but have to wonder if things had been different if tOSU recruited Roark or Cam Ward instead of Howard after they lost confidence in Kyle McCord (who, BTW, led the Syracuse team to a win over Clemson yesterday). When asked about it, McCord basically said "Everything comes full circle".

McCord led them to the win over Miami, not Clemson.
 
My son is an OSU grad and a big $ donator to the OSU program and to say that he - and many other OSU money people - are totally Pi$$ed right now would be a huge understatement. They've wanted Mike Vrabel (ex Tenn Titans) for their HC for a while now and might get their wish unless - like you mentioned - Day wins it all. Many feel he's just squandered the NFL talent that he's had to work with over the last 5 or 6 years
Vrabel would be a great get if he can keep Hartline there.
 
I gotta think some OSU big $ guys and alumni have reached out to Marcus Freeman or his agent to gauge his interest in coming home. In my mind, that’s the OSU slam dunk hire. He keeps Hartline to run the offense and maybe keeps Knowles to handle the defense.
 
I gotta think some OSU big $ guys and alumni have reached out to Marcus Freeman or his agent to gauge his interest in coming home. In my mind, that’s the OSU slam dunk hire. He keeps Hartline to run the offense and maybe keeps Knowles to handle the defense.
I pray they hire Marcus Freeman--that would be a disaster
If Freeman leaves it will be for Chicago though--we aren't that lucky
 
I gotta think some OSU big $ guys and alumni have reached out to Marcus Freeman or his agent to gauge his interest in coming home. In my mind, that’s the OSU slam dunk hire. He keeps Hartline to run the offense and maybe keeps Knowles to handle the defense.
I could be wrong and thinking of someone else, but didn't Buckeye grad Freeman slam OSU a couple of years ago over the way they admitted football players ? I think they have parted ways
 
Ryan Day is taking some serious heat. He didn't help himself when he stood there frozen like a deer in headlights as a riot took place at midfield after the game. I guess he was too stunned to react at that point.

Anyway, one of his former players added insult to injury with this Tweet after the crushing loss to Michigan:

Well, after the buy out, how much money will they have left over for the players and assistant coaches?
 
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I could be wrong and thinking of someone else, but didn't Buckeye grad Freeman slam OSU a couple of years ago over the way they admitted football players ? I think they have parted ways
Harbaugh said the exact same thing re: Lloyd Carr’s teams and Michigan ignored it when it was time to bring Jimmy home
 
Well, after the but out, how much money will they have left over for the players and assistant coaches?
I would think they'd find someone to cover most of that 37M--but it's also why I think they'd promote Hartline--he's cheap with unlimited upside
 
They have the talent except at the most important position. Instead of Fields and Stroud you’ve got Howard. They can’t just throw their guys out there and win with a magician at QB.

His buyout is enormous - that’s the only thing saving him right now
Think I've read $37M? The rumors have been saying the boosters feel that's too high and they aren't ready to pay that much, and that Day is likely sticking around for now.
 
But it became obvious it wasn’t working. But it also seems that he and the OC lost confidence in Howard after that terrible interception at the goal line.

They have 2 5* QBs on the bench. On the ensuing down after Howard got hurt, they sent Brown out at QB before deciding on a time out. Howard came out with thumbs up and did a few jogs and was then put back in.

I just think they thought they could bully the ball on Michigan and never retreated from that.

Vrabel would be a great get if he can keep Hartline there.

Vrabel would be a stylistic shift for sure, but I'm not sure he would be interested in recruiting. His claim to fame is 2 playoff wins in his second year and never won another. Buckeye alum though, but is that important?
 
We will see what Day is made of as he recovers from this loss and prepares for the playoffs. He is coaching for his job now. They can still win it all.

Here's the interesting thing. If we win on Saturday we are probably the #1 seed (between us and Texas if they beat Georgia). If we are #1 then we could play OSU (assuming they win their first rd game) in our first game in the 1 vs 8 quarterfinal. Day would take that draw all day and twice on Sunday because as horrible as he is versus Michigan he cannot lose against us. My guess is Day is a big Nittany Lions fan this weekend.
 
We will see what Day is made of as he recovers from this loss and prepares for the playoffs. He is coaching for his job now. They can still win it all.

Here's the interesting thing. If we win on Saturday we are probably the #1 seed (between us and Texas if they beat Georgia). If we are #1 then we could play OSU (assuming they win their first rd game) in our first game in the 1 vs 8 quarterfinal. Day would take that draw all day and twice on Sunday because as horrible as he is versus Michigan he cannot lose against us. My guess is Day is a big Nittany Lions fan this weekend.
I doubt we would be in ghe same bracket. Or at least not until semi finals.
 
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