Look what happened to Nebraska after they canned Frank Solitch for going 9-3.he can, and so can any coach at psu. they will never fire someone at 9-3
Look what happened to Nebraska after they canned Frank Solitch for going 9-3.he can, and so can any coach at psu. they will never fire someone at 9-3
Had nothing to do with firing Solich and everything to do with making the wrong hires for 15 straight years.Look what happened to Nebraska after they canned Frank Solitch for going 9-3.
Ask yourself this: Would Ohio State and Michigan be OK with a team rushing for 430 yards and zero Punta on them? Would that be ok?
You have championship expectations just like Nebraska has.Had nothing to do with firing Solich and everything to do with making the wrong hires for 15 straight years.
Both Michigan and PSU had shown themselves unable to compete with OSU for nearly a decade.We beat them in '19 and '20. They beat us in '21 and '22. While this loss was a thrashing, I don't think it's indicative of anything more than our LBs are terrible, and we still don't have a good offense.
Between the portal and recruiting, you can fix these deficiencies in a year.
Additionally, we have never been even with OSU since the 90s. We had a chance from '16-'18 and we came up short.
Michigan is on the good end of us right now. Did they think we were pulling away from them when we won 3 of 4 '17-'20?
Both Michigan and PSU had shown themselves unable to compete with OSU for nearly a decade.
Now, it appears Michigan can compete with OSU.
Will it stay that way? Don’t know, but it looks promising for Michigan
For PSU? It doesn’t even seem remotely possible.
In and around 2016, it seemed like we might be able to compete.We both have 1 win vs them in 10 years. We at least have multiple close games or at least you acted like that mattered prior.
It was a bad day Saturday. Changes do need made.
We should never be rebuilding. That is only done when the coach first arrives. We should be expected to reload.How is it rebuilding in year nine when players graduate in four years or leave before four years (except Clifford)?
Look what happened when Georgia canned Mark Richt for not winning more than 10.Look what happened to Nebraska after they canned Frank Solitch for going 9-3.
They aren't high and Paterno did not raise expectations--he did the opposite and that's why he sold people on "success with honor"Joe-Pa raised your expectation level so high.
We actually don't need to ask ourselves. After OSU got embarrassed last year by Michigan, they cleaned house and brought in new staff to right the ship.Ask yourself this: Would Ohio State and Michigan be OK with a team rushing for 430 yards and zero Punta on them? Would that be ok?
You don’t have to be smart to be a glorified gym teacher, which is what football coaches are.I know that our Oline will be horrible each game we play against OSU and Michigan.
It isn’t one data point.
Plus, I think Franklin is a bad coach.
Demeanor of an accountant, and not particularly smart.
Correct.We actually don't need to ask ourselves. After OSU got embarrassed last year by Michigan, they cleaned house and brought in new staff to right the ship.
Fire the linebacker coach, not Manny.They'd probably fire somebody this week and likely replace the DC at years end if improvement isn't made.
Look at Georgia now. Can do this all day...You have championship expectations just like Nebraska has.
That makes 9-3 harder to take.
Vanderbilt would be delighted to go 9-3 every year.
Joe-Pa raised your expectation level so high.
Such coaches are so hard to replace.
Look @ Nebraska now.
Fire the linebacker coach, not Manny.
Did you miss the first play of the game? kinda set the tone in a bad wayNot acceptable would be players playing dirty, getting in fights, not giving effort.
Running mouths on the field and online (and not backing it up).People throw around "unacceptable" a lot lately. What do you mean by that?
It wasn't a good performance. That happens especially against good teams.
Not acceptable would be players playing dirty, getting in fights, not giving effort. I didn't see any of that on Saturday.
Sometimes you lose games. It happens. That's why they play them because you never know what will happen.
Who was running their mouths on the field?Running mouths on the field and online (and not backing it up).
It used to be Penn State was a “good team.”
The accumulation of the past 2+ years - culminating with Saturday’s debacle -is unacceptable.
A marginal late hit penalty? Whatever. That's a dime a dozen play.Did you miss the first play of the game? kinda set the tone in a bad way
Still yet to be determinedWho was running their mouths on the field?
PSU still is a good team.
You are clueless.
Who was running their mouths on the field?
PSU still is a good team.
You are clueless.
I was at the game on Saturday. Were you? I watch every game twice. Do you? I play multiple sports. Do you?Who isn’t running their mouths?
Do you go to the games? Watch them? Do you understand sports?
Penn State is ~ .500 team over past three years…and one that got bullied like high school seniors vs middle school team.
Penn State in dire need of a reboot.
Check on all of the above. Been going to most games since the late 1970s.I was at the game on Saturday. Were you? I watch every game twice. Do you? I play multiple sports. Do you?
No one is running their mouths. You are a clueless hater.
Penn State is 5-1 and ranked the top 20. The have a real chance at an 11 win season. To say they need a reboot based on one game displays your complete ignorance about the sport of football.
Yep all of this. We need more players and less talkers and tweeters.Check on all of the above. Been going to most games since the late 1970s.
Penn State has been doing more and more mouth running, chain wearing, and social media yapping in about inverse proportion to on the field performance.
They can finesse their way to wins against weak, undermanned (talent bereft) teams but can’t even run the football on a team like Villanova.
And the head coach is one of the poorest in-game coaches in the NCAA.
After the debacles of the three years - including Indiana (2020), Illinois (2021), and this past week - and you don’t think a once proud program like Penn State is in dire need of a reboot, what can I tell you other than take off the blue-tinted glasses.
You don’t have to be smart to be a glorified gym teacher, which is what football coaches are.
11 win? They aren't beating Ohio State--stop pretending bowl games matterI was at the game on Saturday. Were you? I watch every game twice. Do you? I play multiple sports. Do you?
No one is running their mouths. You are a clueless hater.
Penn State is 5-1 and ranked the top 20. The have a real chance at an 11 win season. To say they need a reboot based on one game displays your complete ignorance about the sport of football.
I mean, could he be part of the problem?Then hire one. Lol.
Criticism and hate are two different things.This was never gonna be the year we competed for a championship. However, we had a nice start to the season and some of us fans got excited. It was an utterly dismal performance today. Without a doubt.
That said, I’d still rather be a fan who gets excited when his team has a good start to the season, than a negative, miserable, unhappy “fan” who just lives their life waiting for and expecting the other shoe to drop.
I really have pity for these so-called, “fans”, who, if PSU won every game by a score of 28-3, they’d bitch about PSU not being able to score 30 or shut out their opponents.
What a sad, pathetic existence.
WE ARE!!!
We need a guy like Lavar on the staff.Then hire one. Lol.
Bowl games matter. Check the record books, you troll.11 win? They aren't beating Ohio State--stop pretending bowl games matter
Then you must drink too much in the tailgating lots before the games. Either that or you have no understanding of modern college football.Check on all of the above. Been going to most games since the late 1970s.
Let me guess, you are the guy who sent the letter to Sutherland. STFU with that nonsense.Penn State has been doing more and more mouth running, chain wearing, and social media yapping in about inverse proportion to on the field performance.
Did we play Villanova this year? I must have missed that.They can finesse their way to wins against weak, undermanned (talent bereft) teams but can’t even run the football on a team like Villanova.
LOL. Sure he is. That's why he's top 20 in win percentage and has multiple 11 win seasons, multiple NY6 wins and a conference championship. You are delusional.And the head coach is one of the poorest in-game coaches in the NCAA.
2020 and 2021 have nothing to do with this. If PSU finished with 11 wins will you go away and never come back?After the debacles of the three years - including Indiana (2020), Illinois (2021), and this past week - and you don’t think a once proud program like Penn State is in dire need of a reboot, what can I tell you other than take off the blue-tinted glasses.
It took a while with Smart to go above Richt levels. For years by comparison they were virtually the same.Look what happened when Georgia canned Mark Richt for not winning more than 10.
Actually Smart went above Richt in only his second season. Making the Championship game and finishing 2nd. Higher than Richt ever finished (his highest end of season rank was 3rd )It took a while with Smart to go above Richt levels. For years by comparison they were virtually the same.
Smart took UGA to the CFP final in his second year. Do you consider that virtually the same?It took a while with Smart to go above Richt levels. For years by comparison they were virtually the same.
I'm sorry--to think Georgia wasn't significantly better under Smart by year 2 than Richt is rewriting historyIt took a while with Smart to go above Richt levels. For years by comparison they were virtually the same.
They don't matter--see the kids sitting out. Bowls are antiquated at best and were honestly never a good idea. Thankfully as the playoff continues to expand they'll die.Bowl games matter. Check the record books, you troll.
Honestly, one of the most ridiculous thing I've read.Smart took UGA to the CFP final in his second year. Do you consider that virtually the same?