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I mean, he literally turned 21 two weeks ago and is one class behind Allar (23 vs.22)
DA certainly hasn't gotten there yet, but the progress that he has made this year is undeniable.
I had the opportunity to watch virtually every game that Ben played as a Steeler. Perhaps my familiarity with Ben leads me to make the comparison with him vs players like Josh Allen who I infrequently see perform.
Ben was lucky in the team and organization that he had surrounding him. That helped smooth his transition into a professional QB.
He was able to physically do some things out on the field that I never seen any other QB do.
And it excites me to see Drew play as they have some similar traits.
If Drew redshirted he would have 2
Drew graduated from HS on time as most turn 21 during their junior year (i did in March like Drew)--Malachi was a little behind
Nelson will also be on his third team in 3 years so...
I think bsu has a number of Mormons on the team. He may have been on a Mission for a couple of years.
I worked one summer in Oregon with a couple of guys who played at bsu. They were both Mormon. Funny fun guys.
By anyone do you mean, army, navy, air force, Pitt, Rutgers, wvu, Boston college, temple, Maryland, Syracuse and a random MAC school? That was the typical schedule in the 70s-90s.
Why did we have a losing record vs OSU, Michigan and Iowa from 90-2012?
To be fair, from the mid 70s to the late 80s, the typical PSU independent schedule was much tougher than the typical Big 10 schedule during those same seasons; that was a great period for Northeastern football, with several National Champions and Championship Game appearances, Heisman Trophies, etc.
The state also had MUCH more talent in the 70s. Pennsylvania was third in producing NFL players in the 70s. I think we were only behind Texas and California. Now we are usually outside he top 10. This year Georgia has 49 players ranked 4 or 5 star. Pennsylvania has 9 and zero 5 stars.
What happened to northeastern football from 1995-2011?
When PSU joined the Big 10, it opened up PA and NJ to OSU, Michigan, Wisconsin and Iowa, and because of that a lot of the best players in the Northeast went to those schools if they didn’t go to PSU. Thus, PSU really became the only power in the Northeast except for WVU for a few seasons under Rodriguez. I mean, schools like Pitt, BC and Syracuse never have regained what they were at some point in the 70s and/or 80s. That’s why Franklin needs to be commended for what he’s done at PSU.
Look at who we played in bowl games, and the record.
Yes, there were a lot of mediocre eastern teams, but somehow we played as well as any team in the country for bowl games. Why? I would say we had more discipline and prepared better. We got a lot out of those soccer players in the secondary. But like today, we had some superstars. I remember when Curt Warner showed up. Just incredible acceleration and speed.
As for 90-2012, we were pretty close to even with OSU and Michigan and certainly dominated Iowa during the 1990s. After that, as everybody knows, Joe Paterno had aged out but refused to retire. This really hurt recruiting. Then there was nepotism with Jay. It became ugly, and sad to see a great legacy gradually diminish, then get completely tarnished under the weight of corruption.
We also had the B1G officiating corruption, a huge obstacle. That seemed to be a response to Penn State's early success within the conference. The B1G needed to protect The Game and the Rose Bowl. It used its officials. Some were notorious.
Remember Witvoet? The officiating shenanigans became a major driver behind the adoption of Instant Replay. But even Instant Replay was not enough (if you could conveniently lose the video feed). You might even have the officials call time out for you if there was a chance of having the clock expire.
There was also the Sandusky scandal, which had nothing to do with the football program. Yet it was the football program that paid the price. Conference schools that hated Penn State milked that scandal for everything they could get. Truth became lost within the confusion of emotion. The hypocrisy at MSU reached an epic level.
A lot of footnotes need to be added when making some of the generalizations that people tend to make. The record doesn't tell much of the true story. There was a lot of non-football history to consider. It was a lot more than just the play on the field.
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