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Yes, they were elite . Unfortunately they were elite and they very smart with their intelligence and leading their smaller schools to successful years. If you disagree, l respect your opinion.
Yeah, that's fine. I loved Allen coming out of Wyoming and him being the 3rd QB off the board was absurd but both him and Mahomes, in my opinion, had some of the same issues as Allar. Allar's QB rating so far this year (far from the only way to rank QBs) is higher than Mahomes or Allen at any point of their college careers (barely over Mahomes) despite playing tougher competition. I think Allar is very much Justin Herbert but time will tell. I wouldn't take any other QB in college right now with this offensive scheme.
 
Several of Allar's sacks were somewhat caused by our running back whiffing on blocks or not even attempting a block.
Agree somewhat, but on one attempt Boise had 2 defenders running straight up the gut un-touched.
Singleton took on one and made a nice block; the other got through and sacked Allar. Boise had some very good blitz packages, better than ours.
 
They better prepare Allar to face more blitzes Until he shows the ability to make people pay I’d blitz like crazy
I was surprised we didn't use either screen passes or hot receivers. We knew that Boise used 7 man blitzes - they were number 1 in sacks this year. Sort of fits with the overall questioning of the offensive play calling
 
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I was surprised we didn't use either screen passes or hot receivers. We knew that Boise used 7 man blitzes - they were number 1 in sacks this year. Sort of fits with the overall questioning of the offensive play calling
We never will--AK doesn't run that style of offense. He truly believes his offense can beat anything--and, so far, he's been right other than Ohio State.
 
I was surprised we didn't use either screen passes or hot receivers. We knew that Boise used 7 man blitzes - they were number 1 in sacks this year. Sort of fits with the overall questioning of the offensive play

We never will--AK doesn't run that style of offense. He truly believes his offense can beat anything--and, so far, he's been right other than Ohio State.
Allar used good judgment in comming back next yr. he is not ready for the pros yet. just my op.
 
Allar used good judgment in comming back next yr. he is not ready for the pros yet. just my op.
I couldn't disagree more...last night on the final drive before the half we saw why it's a mistake to come back. He threw three balls that are TDs in the NFL and at most FBS schools and all 3 hit the ground. Even one by Warren which was shocking. There's NFL QBs that couldn't make that throw he made to Warren.

The reasons people don't think Allar is because he does miss some throws (all QBs do but because he's a 5* they make it worse than it is) and because he doesn't put up prolific numbers primarily because he doesn't have the weapons.

We better find some better receivers in the portal or next year Luke Reynolds will have 100 catches.
 
We never will--AK doesn't run that style of offense. He truly believes his offense can beat anything--and, so far, he's been right other than Ohio State.

We should be designing our offense to beat OSU every single year. What was missing this year? Once they took Warren out of the game with a spy we had no answer. Certainly could not run against them.

I remember during the JVP years when a weaker team would show up at Beaver Stadium and give PSU all that it could handle. Invariably these teams relied on a short passing game to neutralize the line of scrimmage disadvantage.

Against the OSU's of the world we need to prepare as if we are disadvantaged until we prove otherwise.

OK, we don't have wide receivers that can make contested catches. I find it hard to believe, with three very capable tight ends and a running back that can catch, that we can't come up with a passing attack that can generate sustained drives. This Franklin-fixation on "explosive plays" has got to change, or we just won't ever reach the pinnacle.

You may be right that it isn't AK's "style." My question is why not?
 
I mean, okay, if there's not an elite college QB that's fair I guess. At least you're consistent.
Who's the last elite college QB? Mahomes and Allen weren't elite in college? Burrow for one year?
Caleb Williams for a year. Jayden Daniels for a year.
 
He was great tonight
I'm pretty sure he could win a title and people still wouldn't comprehend what an elite QB looks like
I think the only way they will appreciate Allar is if he goes out the game and the other QB starts throwing interceptions like 99 percent of most QB do. I think he is as good as Kerry, minus Freddie Scott and Bobby Ingram
 
The QBR is an indicator of him being average. I am rooting for Drew to do well but he should be able to audible into a quick pass instead of continually being sacked.
Continually lol
He was sacked 4 times and is one of the least sacked QBs in the country--2 of the sacks were him moving forward trying to gain yards.
 
Watching Texas/ASU and I'd definitely rather have Allar than either Ewers or Leavitt. I'm shocked at how bad Ewers is. He's totally lost his fastball, and doesn't see the game well either.
 
Watching Texas/ASU and I'd definitely rather have Allar than either Ewers or Leavitt. I'm shocked at how bad Ewers is. He's totally lost his fastball, but doesn't see the game well either.
Allar's very underrated--Ewers hasn't been bad but you see a lot with him that you see with Allar--only he has better receivers. I'll also take Allar's pre-snap IQ over Ewers
Leavitt is running for his life and forcing throws--he'll have 3 picks in the second half if they don't fix things.
 
He was not great. Our run game carried us.
He was pretty good. 13-25 isn't great but I can think of passes that could have been caught. If 2 of them were caught he would have completed 60%. Nobody can complain about 3 TD and 0 INT.

I think Allar still needs to slow the game down in his head. He's improved but he still has room to grow.
 
He was pretty good. 13-25 isn't great but I can think of passes that could have been caught. If 2 of them were caught he would have completed 60%. Nobody can complain about 3 TD and 0 INT.

I think Allar still needs to slow the game down in his head. He's improved but he still has room to grow.
Are you watching Texas-Arizona State right now?
We're very lucky to have Allar even if some don't see it. Numbers are often misleading
 
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I couldn't disagree more...last night on the final drive before the half we saw why it's a mistake to come back. He threw three balls that are TDs in the NFL and at most FBS schools and all 3 hit the ground. Even one by Warren which was shocking. There's NFL QBs that couldn't make that throw he made to Warren.

The reasons people don't think Allar is because he does miss some throws (all QBs do but because he's a 5* they make it worse than it is) and because he doesn't put up prolific numbers primarily because he doesn't have the weapons.

We better find some better receivers in the portal or next year Luke Reynolds will have 100 catches.
The horse is dead; stop beating it. It’s Allar’s decision whether to come back and he has made it. And I’m sure that he and his family and advisors don’t give a royal rat’s you know what you think.
 
The horse is dead; stop beating it. It’s Allar’s decision whether to come back and he has made it. And I’m sure that he and his family and advisors don’t give a royal rat’s you know what you think.
And we can discuss his discussion
Also, he can change his mind. Plenty of time.
 
He was pretty good. 13-25 isn't great but I can think of passes that could have been caught. If 2 of them were caught he would have completed 60%. Nobody can complain about 3 TD and 0 INT.

I think Allar still needs to slow the game down in his head. He's improved but he still has room to grow.
Yep, Wallace had a touchdown that he dropped and even Warren dropped one that he should’ve caught. I’ll add a second one to Warren that was not a great pass, but we’ve come to expect Warren to just make those catches. I thought the only poor pass he threw the night was on the third and short, where he rolled out and threw off his back foot to Dinkins across the middle. that throw might be an interception against a better team and definitely in the NFL.
 
The horse is dead; stop beating it. It’s Allar’s decision whether to come back and he has made it. And I’m sure that he and his family and advisors don’t give a royal rat’s you know what you think.

Why engage the troll? Allar could go 0-for-30 and he'd say he was great at this point. He locks into an extremist position and then never deviates, no matter the evidence. It's how he gets the attention he craves, because no one can believe someone would act like that, so they feel compelled to reason with him. And he has no interest in reasoning.
 
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He was pretty good. 13-25 isn't great but I can think of passes that could have been caught. If 2 of them were caught he would have completed 60%. Nobody can complain about 3 TD and 0 INT.

I think Allar still needs to slow the game down in his head. He's improved but he still has room to grow.
He missed a bunch of open receivers (as in, didn't see/throw to them), overthrew some more and made throws that were unnecessarily tough to catch in other circumstances.

He's a 1st round talent, but he's had some bad plays over the last few weeks that he can work to clean up, after he was nails for most of the season. He'll figure it out. Hopefully for the next 2 games. If not, he's got next season to work on it.
 
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Desean Hamilton type of plays.... at least as an option for Drew

Shorter quick hitter routes is exactly what we need. I never noticed either Clifford nor Fleming in the game, although I know they played. A few times when Boise blitzed, the camera was directly behind Allar. There was not one player, offense nor defense for almost 20 yards in the picture. What in the hell are we not throwing slants in those situation is mind boggling. Allar was looking to throw 30-40 yards downfield each time and was getting big time pressure of being sacked.

Our brain storming OC better start finding plays that counter what the defense is giving us rather than the home run ball which generally has about a 10-20% success rate.
 
Shorter quick hitter routes is exactly what we need. I never noticed either Clifford nor Fleming in the game, although I know they played. A few times when Boise blitzed, the camera was directly behind Allar. There was not one player, offense nor defense for almost 20 yards in the picture. What in the hell are we not throwing slants in those situation is mind boggling. Allar was looking to throw 30-40 yards downfield each time and was getting big time pressure of being sacked.

Our brain storming OC better start finding plays that counter what the defense is giving us rather than the home run ball which generally has about a 10-20% success rate.
AK doesn't believe in those routes--he wants a vertical passing attack and we run crossing routes underneath but he's trying to push the DBs back to create space for the run game. We went from a heavy checkdown offense last year to one that avoids it now.
 
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Shorter quick hitter routes is exactly what we need. I never noticed either Clifford nor Fleming in the game, although I know they played. A few times when Boise blitzed, the camera was directly behind Allar. There was not one player, offense nor defense for almost 20 yards in the picture. What in the hell are we not throwing slants in those situation is mind boggling. Allar was looking to throw 30-40 yards downfield each time and was getting big time pressure of being sacked.

Our brain storming OC better start finding plays that counter what the defense is giving us rather than the home run ball which generally has about a 10-20% success rate.
Georgia or ND gonna Blitz the crap out of us
 
Georgia or ND gonna Blitz the crap out of us

Yes, they will. If we don't adapt we are gong to have a lot of drive killing plays -- incompletions and/or sacks to counter that one play that might work.

What's tough for me to reconcile is that AK actually has the people to do the opposite of what he wants to do. He's got three very good tight ends and a fast running back who can catch. What he doesn't have is the tall receiver who is going to make contested catches down field, so why are we hell-bent on wasting downs that way?

Better get smart quick or we don't go past the Orange Bowl. My expectation is that it ends there, because I've seen no evidence that the things that need to be corrected are getting addressed.

I'll be happy if we just show some class on the field.
 
Yes, they will. If we don't adapt we are gong to have a lot of drive killing plays -- incompletions and/or sacks to counter that one play that might work.

What's tough for me to reconcile is that AK actually has the people to do the opposite of what he wants to do. He's got three very good tight ends and a fast running back who can catch. What he doesn't have is the tall receiver who is going to make contested catches down field, so why are we hell-bent on wasting downs that way?

Better get smart quick or we don't go past the Orange Bowl. My expectation is that it ends there, because I've seen no evidence that the things that need to be corrected are getting addressed.

I'll be happy if we just show some class on the field.
It was one game. We never did that before. Especially when the running game was crushing it and a 14 pt lead. In the 2nd qtr.

So why? Coach knew their dbacks were slower than Evans. And all season other teams played us with the defense close to stop the run.

And the announcers said that all week Franklin was saying how fast Omari is, that he is our secret weapon, he can beat anyone, ‘our secret weapon’. It’s like he wants everyone to believe that.

So he had Allar throwing deep to create the impression we have speed and can go deep at will. To put it on tape so that our next opponent plays back to cover the deep ball.

He was already playing the next game. 🙀
 
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Allar used good judgment in comming back next yr. he is not ready for the pros yet. just my op.
He certainly has his issues but we can't argue with his record. He has struggle with footwork and errant passes, but the guy overall has been special.
 
It was one game. We never did that before. Especially when the running game was crushing it and a 14 pt lead. In the 2nd qtr.

So why? Coach knew their dbacks were slower than Evans. And all season other teams played us with the defense close to stop the run.

And the announcers said that all week Franklin was saying how fast Omari is, that he is our secret weapon, he can beat anyone, ‘our secret weapon’. It’s like he wants everyone to believe that.

So he had Allar throwing deep to create the impression we have speed and can go deep at will. To put it on tape so that our next opponent plays back to cover the deep ball.

He was already playing the next game. 🙀

If Franklin really thinks he can manipulate the planning of potential opponents left on the board then we should be even more concerned.
 
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