I don't know, just throwing it out there. Would anything surprise you at this point?
Anthony Lubrano, any thoughts on what to expect on Monday?
- Thread starter BobPSU92
- Start date
This is actually a good question that no one can answer right now.
IMHO things changed when the judge denied the petition and on the same day ordered a settlement conference. Everyone overlooks that a settlement conference was ordered:
Can any legal eagle answer this? In Corman v NCAA, even thought there was a settlement the judge gave permission for Corman to release documents.
In this case, does anyone think either PSU or PMA will want to do the same if they reach a settlement? I do not see either of them having a motivation to do so.
Does any legal expert here see where this is as a likelihood? Can it be made a condition of a settlement that neither releases information?
Since IMHO neither party is going to do it, that leaves the media request which will be a total SNAFU if it happens.
Last edited:
Zipster: "I could care less what anyone from TSM knew or was told about the shower incident. "
Ladies and gentlemen we have a "Frazier-like" confirmation* that CR66 does not care about the welfare of America's children in PA or elsewhere.
He's just fine with the breaking of CPSL and other laws, throwing all their child psychology training out the window, and choosing to take the advice of a building contractor and a used car salesman instead of consulting an attorney on what their obligations were, which he knew or should have known as one in charge of a children's charity in PA.
*I don't care if....
"Ladies and Gentlemen"
Ladies and gentlemen we have a "Frazier-like" confirmation* that CR66 does not care about the welfare of America's children in PA or elsewhere.
He's just fine with the breaking of CPSL and other laws, throwing all their child psychology training out the window, and choosing to take the advice of a building contractor and a used car salesman instead of consulting an attorney on what their obligations were, which he knew or should have known as one in charge of a children's charity in PA.
*I don't care if....
"Ladies and Gentlemen"
Last edited:
Are you sure?
Barring appeal, yes. Judge issued a statement to the media outlets at 12:30 AM this morning basically saying they will be released today.
It was approved back on June 9. The order said 31 days which technically was yesterday. Not sure why they didn't come out. They come out today. Judge issued a statement at 12:30 AM.
4th anniversary of the release of the Freeh Report.
Rewind on Lubert & Peetz - their comments about the Legal Subcommittee & settlements of claims
Joe must have exerted his influence to choose the law firm. You know, because Joe ruled everything.
Another empty suit at PSU - shocking!!!!
If they tried, PSU couldn't FUBAR up their own cases any better
What a bunch of morons
Absolutely amazing
BYW - MAJOR kudos in order - once again - for JimmyW
I'm guessing it was assumed, but I added one important missing point to your excellent post.
BTW - Feinberg and Rosen, the two principal assclowns of that group, just OOZE SLIME
Some folks may remember (I certainly do) the BOT meeting where those two dickheads came in, and acted like they were speaking to 5 year olds
The primary speaker - can't remember which of the two it was, but I am sure it is video archived - went to great lengths to say (repeatedly) that THEY had basically no role ....... "We are facilitators, we are not _______"......over and over again - - - if anyone has seen the movie OFFICE SPACE, basically their point was that they were in the role of the guy who delivered the specs from the customer to the engineers - except that, well, actually, it was his secretary that does that.
Anyway, a couple of major douchebags. Par for the course with the Scoundrels
Birds of a Feather......and all that
Here is the essence of how it went down. BOT had a $1 BILLION dollar endowment. They paid off all the claims for whatever they could settle and made every decision with one and only one thing in mind, to continue the false narrative that this was all C/S/S/JoePa issue. Money was no object as they were using PSU money to protect themselves. A few select BOT members and Corbett did this to protect themselves from things they never want to see come out in public, the rest of the BOT just nodded their head and said yes. The BOT's and Corbett knew that the insurance company would never in a million years pay for these settlements as any businessperson with a shred of a brain knows that and Peetz/Surma/Frazier/Corbett et al. 100% knew PMA would not cover any of this. Everything after that is just window dressing and spin to try and make the cover up look not as obvious.
bwifan
Well-Known Member
I am hopeful the BOT is ready for this with a hard hitting response back when all this breaks... If no statement is planned on being released maybe some individual board members will speak...
Here is the link to the release:
https://fjdefile.phila.gov/efsfjd/zk_fjd_public_qry_03.zp_dktrpt_frames?case_id=131103195
https://fjdefile.phila.gov/efsfjd/zk_fjd_public_qry_03.zp_dktrpt_frames?case_id=131103195
bwifan
Well-Known Member
They don't care because it isn't pointing at them. Their names aren't in these articles.
PDF page 69 starts the john doe 150, "I told Joe" testimony..
CLRDT_128_002.pdf
https://fjdefile.phila.gov/efsfjd/zk_fjd_public_qry_03.open_docu?uid=!4p0NdmR!
CLRDT_128_002.pdf
https://fjdefile.phila.gov/efsfjd/zk_fjd_public_qry_03.open_docu?uid=!4p0NdmR!
Cruising Route 66
Well-Known Member
My statements were in the context of who had the primary responsibility for notifying the authorities for the locker room incident and it wasn't TSM. Maybe you should concern yourself more with why JVP didn't have the intellectual curiosity to ascertain who the child was and if he was OK or why he ignored John Doe when he told him what Jerry did to him.
Cruising Route 66
Well-Known Member
Anthony,
I'm pretty sure that, short of something patently exculpatory being discovered embedded in the work product, Freeh's conclusions will remain intact. I don't believe you are going to find anything that changes things. I really don't.
Remember, Freeh based his conclusions on a "preponderance of the evidence" standard and not on "beyond a reasonable doubt". Accordingly, he proffered an "opinion" which he was hired to do based on whatever evidence he uncovered. I thought it pretty self evident that his rendering of 6/12/12 was strictly "opinion" based on the preponderance of the evidence. At least it was to me and later reinforced by Ken in his exchange with Bill Cluck.
Many may not like Freeh's opinion but that's what it is, "an opinion". Short of proving Freeh ignored countervailing evidence or engaged in something sinister, the burden to invalidate his opinion is going to be in my estimation highly problematic if not impossible. Unless the Board takes legal action against FSS, I'm going to have to assume the review of the work product turned up little of consequence.
Any idea how long the review will take and when you think the work will be done?
Dude, TSM absolutely had the primary responsibility for the welfare of the children who Sandusky was accessing.....through their program!! And your argument assumes that JVP had cause to believe a crime had occurred he didn't. You're an idiot.
Agree with you sentiments, but no reason to insult idiots.
McQueary had the responsibility to contact the authorities, as the primary witness. Instead he went to Joe to report it. Drakov, upon hearing the information was a mandatory reporter. Raykovitz, was as well, I believe, when he was told. I would be more curious why the witness and mandatory reporters didn't have the intellectual curiosity to ascertain who the child was and if he was OK.
Seriously, Zipster, you don't see any possible place where the work that went into producing this opinion has holes in it larger than Ken Frazier's mouth?
I, for one, am curious whether Freeh and his team conducted interviews with 400+ unique, individual employees of Penn State who all felt threatened by Joe Paterno or who all felt he engaged intrusively into their work. I don't need to know their names, what department they worked in, which dining hall they serve food in, I just want to know if that "fact" as presented by King Louie is true.
I'm also curious that out of 3.5 million e-mails reviewed by Freeh, only 17 were found to have dealt with the alleged coverup of the 2001 Lasch incident. Amazing when you think that a huge coverup was carried out for years with just 17 bits of correspondence. Hell, Hillary Clinton deleted more e-mails about yoga poses alone! Sorry, but I'm not going to take Louie's word that there's nothing more to see.
I don't for a minute by the excuse that the OG is protecting the confidentiality and identity of anyone but their own sick, sordid interests. Why are they fighting so hard to keep the Freeh documents hidden? Why did the settlement amounts for any victim who requested access to those docs suddenly triple? Don't insult us by telling us there's nothing there that we haven't already seen.
Are you really going to wager whatever miniscule credibility you have remaining on this, John?
