Any update on Nolf??? Anyone with insider info?
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No info here, certainly wondering...
Doc, don't you have contacts in the PSU/State College medical community?
Doc, don't you have contacts in the PSU/State College medical community?
I don’t think it’s been mentioned yet... but one other thing Cael said about Nolf at the pre-match social on Sunday... at first he said they’d like him to wrestle a couple matches at B1G’s... then a little later he said they’ll see how things go... two, maybe three matches. These are not exact quotes, obviously.
The good news was Nolf was jogging on the mat Sunday, brace or not, that is an excellent sign. I would not be surprised if Nolf does not wrestle at B1G's, obviously the prize is NCAA's. Nobody remembers that Ohio State won B1G's last year.
I fully expect him to wrestle at nationals, the knee can be braced allowing him to wrestle. Plenty of examples of guys wrestling with torn ACL's and doing well. With Suriano last year, really tough to brace an ankle and allowing any mobility.
I fully expect him to wrestle at nationals, the knee can be braced allowing him to wrestle. Plenty of examples of guys wrestling with torn ACL's and doing well. With Suriano last year, really tough to brace an ankle and allowing any mobility.
Also said that Jason wanted to go against Buffalo. Every bout is up in the air until the 1st Round at NCAA's. It's a terrific idea to get some live action at B1G's, and that's the way it's heading, given Nolf's recovery so far, which has another 11 days to go, btw. Opposing thought would be "why take a chance".
He would have to either place high enough for a allocated invitation or gain an at large bid. Which he had an excellent case for.
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Yes, especially if he has a first round bye which means if he wins a QF match he would finish 6th with forfeits and would not even need an at large bid.
NB: I said yes without actually looking it up, so it's possible I am wrong, but I don't think so.
With the open invitation for all to crash at your State College retirement villa, it has been decided you can be wrong as much as you desire.
They have saunas in Iowa ...
I hear it gets pretty warm in Rec Hall during wrestling meets. That could be a selling point.
Bite your tongue. Though I have to say I have an account in Iowa and they are by far the nicest people I deal with, bar none!
She was at that meet, too bad all winter isnt like that!
Nolf, along with Zain and Snyder, are maybe the only guys whose seeding you don't give a second thought about, so ducking out after a few matches at B1Gs shouldn't hurt. Snyder lost to Coon but they're going to be on opposite sides of the bracket regardless of what happens at B1Gs. Zain because no one at 149 even imagines beating him at this point.
But I guess Nolf MFF'ing out after a few matches at B1Gs could impact 157 at NCAAs if, from Nolf's POV, you'd rather Kemerer and Hidlay wind up on the same side of the bracket. Right now Hidlay is on track to go undefeated, as is Kemerer, and I'll wait for Roar's input later on who between them has the more quality wins but I think Hidlay has had the tougher schedule. Micah and Josh Shields are Kemerer's best wins, and he didn't face Pantaleo or Nolf. Hidlay beat Lavallee, Chisko, Berger, Micah.
Nolf can't do much about Hidlay (who probably will be undefeated when he gets to Cleveland, with only Chisko and Finesilver as his only credible threats), but he could face Kemerer, and then choose not to, in which case it's hard to make an argument he deserves to be seeded above Kemerer.
Other scenario is that Nolf runs the table at B1Gs, coaches poll effectively ignores the injury default loss and puts Nolf at 1 and Hidlay/Kemerer 2/3. Nolf is still ranked 1 in most places post injury. But I imagine ducking out of B1G will definitely drop him, but no farther than 3, as only Kemerer and Hidlay have deserving resumes.
But I guess Nolf MFF'ing out after a few matches at B1Gs could impact 157 at NCAAs if, from Nolf's POV, you'd rather Kemerer and Hidlay wind up on the same side of the bracket. Right now Hidlay is on track to go undefeated, as is Kemerer, and I'll wait for Roar's input later on who between them has the more quality wins but I think Hidlay has had the tougher schedule. Micah and Josh Shields are Kemerer's best wins, and he didn't face Pantaleo or Nolf. Hidlay beat Lavallee, Chisko, Berger, Micah.
Nolf can't do much about Hidlay (who probably will be undefeated when he gets to Cleveland, with only Chisko and Finesilver as his only credible threats), but he could face Kemerer, and then choose not to, in which case it's hard to make an argument he deserves to be seeded above Kemerer.
Other scenario is that Nolf runs the table at B1Gs, coaches poll effectively ignores the injury default loss and puts Nolf at 1 and Hidlay/Kemerer 2/3. Nolf is still ranked 1 in most places post injury. But I imagine ducking out of B1G will definitely drop him, but no farther than 3, as only Kemerer and Hidlay have deserving resumes.
Of course Jason also wanted to finish the Rutgers match.. Read somewhere that he told Cael to let him go back to finish the match, be on top out of the injury timeout and pin the guy off the whistle.. LOL..
What's crazier here? The possibility that Nolf said this, or the idea that he actually could do it.?
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I can't imagine a timeline where even if Nolf walks out on the mat and MFF immediately at B1Gs that he would not get an at-large at NCAAs. It doesn't matter what seed Jason is at NCAAs, if he's healthy nobody can beat him at 157lbs. Only a few guys can even keep it to a decision, and that's Kemerer and maybe Hidlay, but we don't even know since they have not wrestled.
I don't think he'll be any worse than a 3 seed at NCAAs. I also think if he is healthy at B1Gs and runs the table he's the #1 seed regardless of if Hidlay is undefeated. No reasonable person would or should count that MFF at Rutgers against him.
I don't think he'll be any worse than a 3 seed at NCAAs. I also think if he is healthy at B1Gs and runs the table he's the #1 seed regardless of if Hidlay is undefeated. No reasonable person would or should count that MFF at Rutgers against him.
I think Hidlay is tough as shit but I don't see him close to Nolf (especially healthy). Kemerer only has shot based on the 1000 times they wrestled together.
The Pantaleo match was close for some reason (I know he's tough but figured at least a major). Pantaleo has a few questionable losses.
The Pantaleo match was close for some reason (I know he's tough but figured at least a major). Pantaleo has a few questionable losses.
I heard from Jason's roommate's brother's girlfriend's 3rd cousin once removed that Nico got mouthy last night and Jason Whirly Birded him with no issues. Seems like he should be a go to me
They physically carried him to the locker room. I think this one has some Urban legend mixed in
I heard from Jason's roommate's brother's girlfriend's 3rd cousin once removed that Nico got mouthy last night and Jason Whirly Birded him with no issues. Seems like he should be a go to me
Lol...poor Nico
Didn't Suriano try to stay on top after a stoppage against Picc when he rolled his ankle? I remember that.
Something tells me a hundred years from now someone will say on this board that someone is beating Nico in the room .Never gets oldI heard from Jason's roommate's brother's girlfriend's 3rd cousin once removed that Nico got mouthy last night and Jason Whirly Birded him with no issues. Seems like he should be a go to me
Why all the talk about MFF at B1Gs? If he’s healthy enough to wrestle one match what is to stop him from wrestling four in 2 days?
Maybe he can, but the goal is not wrestling 4 matches in Lansing. It's winning 5 matches in Cleveland.
If he is healthy enough for pre-practice dodgeball (and he is) I am guessing he will be full go for BIGs.
I am firmly in the camp of "why take a chance?" I would guess that Nolf is itching to get out on the mat, as evidenced by Cunningham's mention that he wanted to go vs Buffalo.
That said, The big tens are absolutely meaningless. The real goal is to get him as healthy as possible for a full go at nationals.
It's the coach's job to protect him from himself at this point. Just my two cents.
Why not both? I think the goal is to wrestle and win every match in front of you. If he’s healthy enough (and I don’t know that he is or isnt) he should wrestle. An athlete the caliber of Nolf wants to compete.
Then why wrestle anybody that will receive an at large bid to the NCAAs? Why wrestle the last dual of the season?
Who cares if he wants to compete at B10s? That's why the coaches are there -- to make adult decisions.
If he's healthy -- with no risk of re-injury -- then fine.
But if there's a risk of re-injury, then wrestling him at B10s would be moronic.
If the B1Gs are absolutely meaningless let’s just skip them and stay home in bubble wrap. If you can’t tell, I’m for wrestling and winning B1Gs. Then two weeks later we’ll compete in Cleveland.
Hopefully you are being facetious here. I am not talking about just anybody. I'm talking about a young man coming off what appeared to be a very substantial knee injury. Obviously there's a difference, and your point is completely irrelevant.
They are meaningless in the sense that they are not worth jeopardizing winning a national title AT ALL.
I thought one could have inferred that from my post, but in case not, I'm clarifying that now.
B1Gs are important to most wrestlers for NCAA seedings. When guys like Nolf are healthy, seeding is pointless. He would bonus the field from the 33 seed. Nevills is a great example of how B1Gs could help him. If he takes 3rd, he can avoid Snyder and Coon until the semis.
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