Anyone have any idea what this Cael quote from today's presser infers?

[Johnb212]

The best scenario is Cassar at 197. He has to be close to ready if not fully ready. He won't be blowing a red-shirt or anything like that and I suspect he is better than Matt M. If he's better than MM he could be an AA come March. Hope for Cassar.

 

[Cali_Nittany]

The best scenario is Cassar at 197. He has to be close to ready if not fully ready. He won't be blowing a red-shirt or anything like that and I suspect he is better than Matt M. If he's better than MM he could be an AA come March. Hope for Cassar.

He'd be blowing a potential medical redshirt. Plus the risk of a 3rd shoulder injury may be too great. He can wrestle off for 197 next year.

 

[El-Jefe]

The one good thing about the season ending (other than titles) will be that fantasy finally withered on the vine.

 

[Bob_Anderson]

He'd be blowing a potential medical redshirt. Plus the risk of a 3rd shoulder injury may be too great. He can wrestle off for 197 next year.

I don't think a medical redshirt can be used since he forfeited a season because he wasn't enrolled.

 

[RoarLions1]

I don't think a medical redshirt can be used since he forfeited a season because he wasn't enrolled.

The coaches would be filing a Hardship Waiver.

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

My Theory....
1. Someone else at 133 other than Carpenter. Law or Moss or Possibly Jimmy.
2. Zain is getting the night off.

Either way you need to hope VJ wrestles IMAR. I agree with jrd23psu. I dont want them to blow Lee's gray shirt...if that is what it is called and dont want to see Nolf up against a much stronger this year than last year IMAR.

Don't think so because Cael said it would be "announced by the marketing department....so stay tuned" - don't think line-ups would be being determined by the Athletic Department's marketing & PR department.

 

[johnstownsteel]

Don't think so because Cael said it would be "announced by the marketing department....so stay tuned" - don't think line-ups would be being determined by the Athletic Department's marketing & PR department.

I think the mystery has been solved at the end of page 4 Franklin.

 

[dunkej01]

Winner, winner...

And don't forget Coach Lorenzo being on the mat for Senior Day. All the festivities will certainly make up for a one-side dual...in my opinion.

Wait, so there is a chance Coach wrestles IMar?

Whoops, wrong night. In other news Yahoo/BWI owes Cael a creamery certificate for all the clicks he generated.

 

[slushhead]

No, no sarcasm meant. I had no idea whether this was true but was allowing for the possibility and was then just thinking out loud about the potential theoretical basis. I can't imagine that a headstand would make an actual difference in your weight for the purpose of a weigh-in, though I can imagine trace distinctions. I mean, people weigh up to a pound less on top of Mt Everest than they do at sea level because gravity isn't a constant. So I'm willing to at least imagine the possibility.

That said, you're right about the equal and opposite force with respect to my cup example, but I don't think that would hold true for the headstand example because a body is a contained unit. Better analogy is maybe a half-filled water balloon. If it was possible to weigh the balloon in a precise moment when the water was sloshing around, it would weigh less than it does when the water settles. No, blood and/or other bodily fluids don't work that way inside your body but maybe in some barely perceptible way they do.

I don't believe the theory I offered but don't think it was flatly idiotic either. Neither did the National Institute of Health, which did a thoroughly scientific debunking here, abstract below, emphases mine:

I never bought into to headstand trick because it didn't make sense to me (and I am of a personality type that doesn't like to cut things that close). But it was something some of my teammates and guys from other teams did when they were just barely over. I laugh at the memory, because there's just something comical about two guys in their skivvies holding the ankles of a third guy standing on his head, also in his skivvies . . . in front of a locker room of kids standing there watching and waiting in their skivvies . . . while an official at the scale looks on, just shaking his head.

Anyway, the theory was that having all the blood in your head would make you top-heavy and somehow trick the scale by 1/8-lb. because of the weight redistribution. Someone must have claimed success at some point in history, because it was attempted with regularity. Of course, it could also have just been an urban legend that was accepted into practice because of the desperation of those about to miss weight.

 

[PSUAllTheWay]

It was all the rage for a while. I remember walking into a locker room at a college tournament and there were probably 10-15 guys standing on their heads against the wall near the scale. Pretty funny stuff! We used to test the theory in our locker room and it did appear to make at least a 0.1 lb difference. Studies have now shown that this was much more likely due to the inconsistency of scales vs. any physiological difference but it sure did seem to work.

 

[manatree]

However, he said "one" of the matches is gonna be different. Singlets would be all the matches. Just sayin'.

I'm guessing he meant one of the meets, as in the black & pink singlets and warm ups for the Maryland meet.

 

[nitlion6]

It was all the rage for a while. I remember walking into a locker room at a college tournament and there were probably 10-15 guys standing on their heads against the wall near the scale. Pretty funny stuff! We used to test the theory in our locker room and it did appear to make at least a 0.1 lb difference. Studies have now shown that this was much more likely due to the inconsistency of scales vs. any physiological difference but it sure did seem to work.

I am going to go with it appeared to work because that was either what the observer expected or wanted to see.

 

[PSUAllTheWay]

I am going to go with it appeared to work because that was either what the observer expected or wanted to see.

Believe whatever you want but when wrestlers consistently step on a digital scale and weigh 0.1 less than they did just minutes before, its more than what the observer "expected or wanted to see".

 

[Dogwelder]

Believe whatever you want but when wrestlers consistently step on a digital scale and weigh 0.1 less than they did just minutes before, its more than what the observer "expected or wanted to see".

If I were to keep an open mind, my best hypothesis would be that standing on your head relaxes you and that a relaxed person somehow weighs less, probably due to less compressed air, or dissolved air, in your body. Air is the only possible thing that a body can release, once the person has stopped emitting water. I'm too lazy to look up how much compressed air or dissolved air weighs per unit, to see if the numbers add up. The flying-water hypothesis does not hold water, to me, because what goes up must come down, and the weighing is neither immediate enough nor short-duration enough for the water to stay flying.

edit: less compressed air suggests burping/farting.

 

[Dogwelder]

Studies have now shown that this was much more likely due to the inconsistency of scales vs. any physiological difference but it sure did seem to work.

Can't trust just one study when it comes to negative results. I watched a few Mythbusters, and those guys' studies have so many assumptions and logical gaps that I don't automatically buy any negative result of theirs. For example, they busted Archimedes's solar blaster, but then some MIT kids did a different study and unbusted it.

 

[NoVa Lion]

Can't trust just one study when it comes to negative results. I watched a few Mythbusters, and those guys' studies have so many assumptions and logical gaps that I don't automatically buy any negative result of theirs. For example, they busted Archimedes's solar blaster, but then some MIT kids did a different study and unbusted it.

Same thing is true with positive results, especially from a non scientific study where only those who lost weight weigh in and those for whom it didn't work don't say anything.

 

[LemonPie]

Can we just all agree tha TDC is awful?

 

[El-Jefe]

It's hilarious that there was actually a study on this, and that the NIH actually felt compelled to weigh in. (Except as a taxpayer, of course.)

Because this is HS Physics week 1 stuff: weight = mass x gravity. Gravity doesn't change, and neither does actual body mass. Total mass changes only if the headstand shakes some gas loose.

But, if you've been cutting -- dehydrating, not eating, and working out to sweat off pounds -- then what gas is left? And, if after all of that the mere act of a handstand forces gas out ... let's just say white singlets are not for you once you have eaten and hydrated.

 

[pawrestlersintn]

It's hilarious that there was actually a study on this, and that the NIH actually felt compelled to weigh in. (Except as a taxpayer, of course.)

Because this is HS Physics week 1 stuff: weight = mass x gravity. Gravity doesn't change, and neither does actual body mass. Total mass changes only if the headstand shakes some gas loose.

But, if you've been cutting -- dehydrating, not eating, and working out to sweat off pounds -- then what gas is left? And, if after all of that the mere act of a handstand forces gas out ... let's just say white singlets are not for you once you have eaten and hydrated.

F(grav) is proportional to G(m1 * m2)/d^2

Therefore, since Earth and the wrestler, m1 and m2, respectively, are constant, the gravitational force between them changes with distance. This distance is the center of gravity. So, if a wrestler stands on his head, and has lots of blood move up there, then jumps upright on the scale, his center of gravity may momentarily be further from the earth, thus reducing the force of gravity. Same could be done with a handstand on the scale.

As to the Mt. Everest thing, I think the mass of earth so far outweighs (pun maybe intended) the distance that the weight difference is negligible.

 

[El-Jefe]

F(grav) is proportional to G(m1 * m2)/d^2

Therefore, since Earth and the wrestler, m1 and m2, respectively, are constant, the gravitational force between them changes with distance. This distance is the center of gravity. So, if a wrestler stands on his head, and has lots of blood move up there, then jumps upright on the scale, his center of gravity may momentarily be further from the earth, thus reducing the force of gravity. Same could be done with a handstand on the scale.

As to the Mt. Everest thing, I think the mass of earth so far outweighs (pun maybe intended) the distance that the weight difference is negligible.

But the distance being measured is relative to the earth's core. So the delta CG of a handstand vs. regular upright standing is negligible.

 

[pawrestlersintn]

But the distance being measured is relative to the earth's core. So the delta CG of a handstand vs. regular upright standing is negligible.

Even more negligible than Death Valley to Mt. Everest.

 

[Lyco1990]

I don't think a medical redshirt can be used since he forfeited a season because he wasn't enrolled.

I believe,the first three words explain a lot. Really you don't know!

 

[Dogwelder]

Even more negligible than Death Valley to Mt. Everest.

I've figured it out. When you go upside down, blood leaves your abdomen area and goes toward your head. Therefore, your waist gets thinner for a while. Therefore your waistband is less stretched. Therefore, the waistband stores less potential energy. The decrease of potential energy equals a decrease in mass according to E = mc^2. QED.

 

[purescurve]

While you are in a headstand static electricity is produced. Your hair has to overcome gravity to return to normal position. So for a tad(time reference) your hair is in weightless limbo.. Simple concept really. Sorry George, we still good?

 

[manatree]

The key to the headstand routine is all in the timing. For maximum effect, you have to time it so that they record your weight just as you are passing out and falling off the scale, thus reducing the amount of mass actually on the scale, thus reducing your recorded weight.

 

[pawrestlersintn]

So, an engineer and a physicist are called to a farm. The farmer tells them he wants them, individually, to come up with a design for automatically moving eggs from the chicken coops into egg crates, ready for shipping.

Two weeks later, they come back. The farmer turns to the engineer and says, "Show me what you've got." The engineer pulls out page after page of intricately detailed drawings of his system, complete with materials lists, GANTT charts, start-up procedures, you name it.

The farmer, suitably impressed, turns to the physicist, and says, "How about you?" The physicist pulls out a single sheet of paper, on which is drawn a single circle. The farmer, somewhat confused says, "You've had two weeks. What is this?" The physicist says, "First, assume a spherical chicken..."

 

[Real-Lion]

Mystery seems solved based on radio show - black and pink singlets and alot of other marketing activities (free t-shirts, lottery for shirts off wrestlers backs, etc.) for last match.

Yes black and pink singlets...PSU's old colors !!!! Bunch of free marketing stuff too. Should be a great time !!!!

 

[purescurve]

circa 1870: A blacksmith is toiling away in his shop. He hears a horse approaching. He looks outside and notices the town busybody getting off his horse. The blacksmith goes back to work finishing up the horseshoe he has been working on. As he sets the horseshoe down to cool the busybody walks in. He watches as the man walks around his shop picking up items and critiques each one. The man picks up the horseshoe and quickly sets it down, Grinning, the blacksmith asks the man, Warm? No, not at all, the man says, it just doesn't take me long to look at a horseshoe..

 

[dunkej01]

Mystery seems solved based on radio show - black and pink singlets and alot of other marketing activities (free t-shirts, lottery for shirts off wrestlers backs, etc.) for last match.

 

[a_mshaffer]

in case alumni don't recall.... the origin of PSUs colors: http://onwardstate.com/2014/04/30/pink-and-black-the-history-of-penn-states-original-colors/