to actively recruit active players for the Illini after NCAA sanctions handed down?
If so, I guess he's familiar with the campus.
If so, I guess he's familiar with the campus.
Anyone know if new safety/defensive co-coord was one of the carpetbaggers who came to campus in 2012
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That was not a presentable excuse at Nuremberg though the magnitude is certainly different. If he was on the PSU campus at that time, and I was Mauti, I'd puke in his face.
This does not please me. It's going to be an issue at some point, particularly since Mauti and company made it a rallying cry.
LOL. Only the same people would try to make it an issue. The only time things are an issue is if you are not winning. If PSU crawls out of the hole in the next 2 years, nobody says boo about it. The question will get asked and he'll say he was following orders.
Folks, let's not forget who at the top of the B1G food chain were in favor of the overt poaching.....it supposedly wasn't Delaney or the likes Urbum Meyer......it was the other 13 University Presidents. Beckman, out of doofus desperation, was the only coach stupid enough to send coaches to State College....the others were a bit more discreet. Such a POS conference.
Big Ten Commissioner Jim Delany is among the opponents of the intra-conference recruiting. He said he told university presidents he thought it put the Big Ten in an unhealthy place, but he was overruled.
He (Delaney) said they (Presidents) responded, "This is not about competition between and among schools; it's about the student-athletes having a full spectrum of opportunities."
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/...ll--20120727_1_penn-state-o-brien-tim-beckman
Big Ten Commissioner Jim Delany is among the opponents of the intra-conference recruiting. He said he told university presidents he thought it put the Big Ten in an unhealthy place, but he was overruled.
He (Delaney) said they (Presidents) responded, "This is not about competition between and among schools; it's about the student-athletes having a full spectrum of opportunities."
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/...ll--20120727_1_penn-state-o-brien-tim-beckman
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I guess that is true. I just hate the idea that any of our lettermen could be aggravated about anything going on in the program. In Mauti's case, at least, I wouldn't blame him.
My old boss actually ran into Mauti this weekend in Mandeville. He said what the NCAA did hurt him more than both of his injuries. I think that is where the anger probably resides. I think those still playing understand the business part of it and why coaches were there.
My old boss/friend also told him how much Mauti meant to the PSU faithful as I was clear about how much I admired him during that whole fiasco. Assuming he is still on the Saints next year, that is one jersey I will be ordering. It sounds like that may be the case.
The head coach determines strategy such as what Illinois did in reaction to access to our campus and players. Most of us have been told to do something at work that we were against or was not our individual choice for the situation and since it was not a crime we did what we were told. I believe Mauti and our other players are mature enough to realize the situation. I also believe CJF vetted the whole Illinois on campus thing with him during his interviews. I hope we don't try to make an issue out of something that is not one.
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While I completely agree that Beckman is a slimeball, ( btw karma finally caught up with him last year) lets not forget who the real enemy is. The NCAA and the BOT sold the football program down a river with the sanctions and basically declared free agency for an entire year. When I think about other programs trying to poach our players, I get pissed at the NCAA for allowing it to happen and the BOT for not sticking up for the program.
Wow - really? Nuremburg is the analogy you want to make here?
Banks must address this to clear the air. I think I'll be OK with him dealing with it straight up but he can't let this linger. Address it himself before it comes up from a beat writer.
It's truly amazing how much this conference respects us & values our membership.
What, you expected university presidents to demonstrate integrity? I take it you haven't met many.
Nuremberg is in a different universe. How about something like "Coach (addressing Beckman), I'm really not comfortable doing this, so, if it's okay with you, I'd rather not go"?
Sure and Beckman takes him out for cookies and ice cream after that.
Maybe it's too much to ask a coach to demonstrate some character. While I might not expect him to put his livelihood on the line if Beckman insisted, I'd expect him to at least ask.
Yeah, I'd say Nuremberg was just a bit on a different magnitude.
I can't believe I actually read someone comparing The Holocaust and Nazism in any fashion to a football game. And then the same merry bunch of retards wonder why "the narrative" will never change.
I can't believe I actually read someone comparing The Holocaust and Nazism in any fashion to a football game. And then the same merry bunch of retards wonder why "the narrative" will never change.
Just because someone opens a door doesn't mean you have to walk through it. Easy way to find out what discussions were had: ask him. And it is an issue.
The poster had a point, though bringing Nuremberg into it was a bit much. Let's just end this part of the discussion here.
To me, there isn't much of a difference whether they were on campus or in State College if they were actively contacting players. If they were simply hunkered down in hotels making themselves available to a player who initiated contact, I'm okay with that.
It's only an issue for those looking for one. This board lives in a GD fantasy land more than any other PSU site. His job while at Illinois was to make Illinois better within the rules. The question will get asked. He'll say he was doing his job and the world will move on.
Save the Drama for your Mama.
No reason whatsoever to "address this"....don't be silly.
If some room-temperature-IQ-journalist (paging Mr Giger....paging Mr Giger) even tries to bring it up it should simply be "I'm really looking forward to working with Coach Franklin and this staff. I have a lot of respect for the staff, the players and the program here at Penn State. I don't know of any other program in the country that could have dealt with the issues they faced back in 2012 - and over these last several years - any better than what Penn State has done. As we move on to 2016, the sky is the limit ...and the future is very bright. Are there any other questions out there?"
No, it's not an issue simply because you want to dismiss. If he's asked and provides an answer along the lines that you suggest, that will be the end of it, and, yes, the world will go on. But I'll look at him in a different way and I suppose I'm not alone in that respect. And you won't care and a lot of others won't and ask me if I give a ****,
So cute with this BS. You and the others should bring him up to Salem and question him. Like this staff or school needs your stamp of approval on a hire. Go get him guys, wonder why the local media will stir this up. We know they never use these sites to stir the pot. Hell you guys just wrote DJ's next fire Franklin piece. Get him guys, he's a witch!!!!
Moot point...the HC called the shots on that one.
No reason? Would you feel the same way if 6-10 players had transferred to Illinois?
According to at least one player at the time, they were outside of Lasch building, on campus.
Like others have said, I think if Banks was involved I could look past it, but I'd like to know.
I can see a reporter in that first media event, "So, coach, is this your first time in State College?"
So Nuremberg is inappropriate, but Salem is not? I'm not calling for a witch-hunt here. I'm suggesting that a simple question be asked and answered. I'm in no way suggesting that his employment status be altered by his answer.
Cute. When and if Franklin has a track record as long as Joe's we'll make that decision, and even Joe was not infallible. Just because it may not be an issue with Franklin doesn't mean shit.
