Glad you brought that up.....nothing gets past you.....he was 16-31.
If Franklin goes 3-20 in his next 23 games come back and see me.
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If Franklin goes 3-20 in his next 23 games come back and see me.
The bucknuts are good but beatable same with the wolverines.nd sucks and the rainbow warriors are not all that either Dr.
11-11 with a losing record in the conference the past 2 years--problem
The biggest weakness we have this year will be stopping the running game. Auburn will be our first test. Tank is a load.
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ND's performance yesterday is very telling as to how impressive duhO$U's win was against them. Keep in mind, duhO$U played them @home.... Marshall just handled them @ND!!! ND's QB is putrid - really bad. And ND's running game was equally unimpressive. Marshall won the game relatively easily and the final score is misleading as ND scored a meaningless TD with 14 seconds left to make a 26-15 game a 26-21 final. After watching that ND game yesterday, I'm wholly unimpressed with duhO$U's win against them - they should have blown them out big time, and didn't at all, the game was relatively close until the last third of the game.
I was asking our resident expert that because of his comments on Pitt yesterday.
No idea--again, not drinking the Kool Aid doesn't make me a Pitt fan
They probably play a MAC team after WVU and Tennessee
Pandemics, key player injuries, coaching changes, transfers, and players leaving early for the draft shouldn't be acceptable to you either then right? But they happen and sometime they affect a program at inopportune times and sometimes in tandem. No? Consider the last couple of years as a confluence of those aforementioned factors.
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Well, last year PSU looked like 2 completely different teams prior to all the injuries in Iowa game and post the injuries. Through the first quarter and one-half of the Iowa game, it looked like CJF had them back to where we were in 2018, but then.......
Back to Auburn. Big keys are to limit Auburn running game make them beat you with the pass, then get pressure on them in passing situations. Offensively take advantage of the situations in which you get good field position and get enough from the running game to keep them honest about defending the pass.
I see it the opposite - don't see Auburn giving us the opportunity to establish the run. Pretty sure Auburn plays a 4-3 as their base defense and would expect them to "pack the box" with lots of "cover 1" and "cover 0" looks. They are going to make Cliff show that he has the accuracy and consistency to move the ball against their secondary. If we can make them pay early for loading the box (i.e., Cliff making the correct decisions on quick hitters - the "hot read"), then we probably back them off a bit and can counter with Singleton.....
Not just Tank, but their #2 back is also very good. Our run defense has to be stellar in this game or it will be a looooooong day on the plains.
My comments are not in defense of Franklin and his results. They are about your illogic.
Only it wasn't "illogic"--blindly agreeing with the masses isn't a requirement to be a fan
So in your opinion, it doesn't matter than one of those years was an unprecedented covid year which was extremely disruptive to installing the new offense, player development and team unity? And it doesn't matter that the other year the team was undefeated, #4 in the country and beating Iowa on the road until the starting QB got hurt? Those aren't asterisks in your mind? Those years are just standard years?
I'm sure the stadium will be rocking but the PSU roster has played in loud places before (e.g. OSU).
I'm not an expert on Auburn's roster, but their offense seems very one dimensional and unless they upgraded their defense from last year, PSU should be able to move the ball. Plus, the officiating can't get much worse (knock on wood) than last year (phantom down, horrible intentional grounding call, horrible intentional grounding non-call, not calling obvious taunting penalties). PSU by a TD seems like a reasonable outcome.
Didn't every team deal with COVID? Right? Including teams with a new coach not a guy that had been in the job for over 5 years and fully responsible for the entire roster?
When the QB goes down your season shouldn't be over at deep into a tenure
To quote Tomlin, "the standard is the standard", "next man up"--there's no excuses.
Who cares. That is not what my problem with your statements is about. Your statements about what constitutes a “good” win is based on illogical assumptions and opinions.
I expect to beat teams that we have more talent than every time. When we do that's great we met the expectation. When we don't that's a problem. You want to consider Purdue a good win. Purdue hasn't beat us since 2004. They've only beat us twice since we joined the Big Ten in 03 & 04 when we were garbage. Why would I pretend that's a "good" win? I'm sorry I don't have low standards--hopefully you don't have low standards in real life.
Even though Auburn has recruited an equal level of talent, you have already stated it is t a good win because their coach is bad according to you. You are an illogical mess. I am not defending JF. I simply don’t think you have a clue about how difficult it can be to win certain games. Simply stating I expect them to win isn’t high standards. It is intellectually dishonest or trolling.
I don't agree with the assessment that Auburn has equal talent. Did you watch them against SJSU?
I'm not the illogical one. I'm consistent. You just don't like it because you refuse to have realistic expectations of this program so you can be "happy" when we beat Purdue.
This is simple. Penn State is a far superior program with far superior talent than most teams on our schedule. Therefore, we should win the most games on our schedule. Yes, upsets happen and when they do, like other fan bases, we should be angry about. The fact we have people "celebrating" beating Purdue just means many are still buying into Paterno's nonsense of lowering expectations and the powers that be won when they tried to devalue football.
You can ramble nonsense about be being an idiot or trolling all you want. I don't care because I know you're wrong and so do you.
So now Auburn didn’t pass your eye test because they didn’t play well against a weak team. Doesn’t change how much talent they have. You are all over the place. Of course fans get angry over an upset. I must have missed the part where PSU lost. I don’t see the fan base “celebrating” beating Purdue. Most fans aren’t biased enough to think it was like beating Akron or Pitt.
Not in the same way. Recall that the Big Ten canceled the season, then uncancelled it. Players had been sent home. Parsons left. PSU handled it differently (not just Franklin but university protocols) than other Big Ten schools. I heard an interview with Pat F in which he basically said that due to covid protocols and false positive tests, the team was missing multiple starters for every practice. That definitely wasn't the case for every school.
When a team's starting QB goes down, more often than not it has a negative impact on the season, especially now in the transfer portal era. Ten years ago we would have had Levis as a backup, but that isn't the case anymore. You will see more and more teams have this problem.
Cool quote, bro. You trying to get Tomlin (who I like) to come coach PSU? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
Look at the recruiting rankings--we have more talent. And they demonstrated that against SJSU. It's a simple concept
Oh people absolutely were celebrating beating Purdue trying to hype them up as a quality win when we all know better.
We're pretending Purdue > Pitt?
None of that is an excuse for how we played in 2020. None of it. Next man up. Stop making excuses.
We're not in 2012--Franklin needs to have his team prepared for injuries. We see other teams have no problem with their backups come in. You can't possibly watch that Iowa game and claim Franklin did enough to have Roberson ready--or that it shouldn't have been CV in the game
No, I wish Tomlin wasn't with the Steelers--again, it goes to expectations--see his playoff record with a HOF QB.
Raise your expectations
Yes, actually a global pandemic that disrupted everything about life, including college athletics is a pretty damn good excuse. Get real.
Correct, we aren't in 2012 (when there was no portal). It is much harder to keep quality backups (especially at QB) on the team now than it was in 2012.
Did you watch the Notre Dame game? Back ups are almost always a significant drop off. Roberson was probably QB4 before Levis left.
You can't possibly know that CV would have done any better.
You are not a logical person and have unrealistic expectations about sports.
Become a realist.
History tells us Auburn tends to be unpredictable. They'll look mediocre and then pull some big upsets here and there. I am not underestimating them at all going into this weekend, it very well could be a dogfight.
I agree. OSU defense still looks disjointed considering all of the so called talent. No pass rush without blitzing and open receivers all over the place. Oline did not impress and you can see the drop off at wideout. Hopefully, they don't get it together before our game. We can, and should, beat the team that played ND.
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