I’ll believe someone can beat Cael (for more than a season or two over 15 years) when they do.
Bassett to Iowa
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It certainly isn't going to be the Brands circus.
It’s a message board- speculation is fine. But some are talking as if it’s absolute fact- not speculation. If he felt more comfortable with Iowa (and hopefully that was the case and he wasn’t pressured for money), then he chose their training style and culture. If that’s what he’s looking for, he probably wouldn’t have been happy at Penn State
I don't really care, but if I'm being completely honest with myself I'd prefer to root against him than for him.
Also, I think it's better for the sport if the other teams figure out how to compete against us. Edging out Ohio State in Cleveland was a lot more memorable than last year's March massacre. So yeah, great choice Bo, no notes.
Also, I think it's better for the sport if the other teams figure out how to compete against us. Edging out Ohio State in Cleveland was a lot more memorable than last year's March massacre. So yeah, great choice Bo, no notes.
My screensaver says otherwise
That was on the Eagles' owner being severely in debt (and a cheapskate before that), and refusing to pay his star players. Pretty much the entire defense left.
I think it was about the money, but I'll entertain this idea because it has happened before.
Bo Jordan visited PSU and said the practices weren't serious enough. He did well with the hand he was dealt.
If I recall correctly, there was very little fanfare about our Bo when he was looking at different schools. Someone made a post on this board that Bo was seen on the Penn State campus but there wasn’t much hoopla after that until he said where he was going.
And in spite of all the media hype and coverage, at this point in time we know how good our Bo was. (and is) We have no way of knowing how good Bo Bassett will be.
Gabe Arnold hardest hit. Whatever his weight ends up being, no doubt that's where Miller goes.
Brands has already announced that Miller will take the tough matches at this yet-to-be-determined weight.
Yah, Im conflicted about that. I certainly enjoyed the high drama of the team race and the way Nickal clinched the title. However, I also enjoy massacres (the wrestling kind). Obligatory:
Good luck Bo, be your best, college wrestling is the greatest sport of them all
It’s all good. Just read a post on GIA that we are in full meltdown. I don’t see that but folks would prob be posting the same here if roles were reversed. Iowa needed a dub and I’m kind of glad they got one. I don’t see Bo as a game-changer vs us but I guess we will see. Good luck to Bo.
You're right about Bo, We had heard a little of him, but there wasn't as much fanfare, probably because he came from far away (Dallas). Cael knew about him, and that's all that mattered.
Arnold is the starter, but we're getting Miller some matches and they won't be cupcakes.
If Bo chose Iowa because he likes their training style, he would be wise to take a portion of that NIL money and put Dr Jim Martin on retainer. After a few seasons under TnT, he’ll probably need the services of a good orthopedic surgeon.
A year from now Bassett will be a senior in high school.
IMO best case scenario if it was Iowa or Ok St. i’m not sure how effective David Taylor will be yet, but I think Tom Brands has a ceiling. Bassett recruitment reminds me a little bit of Spencer Lee, obviously Spencer Lee was a fantastic college wrestler but he didn’t put Iowa over the top.
In wrestling , the coach makes the dynasty, not one great recruit .
In wrestling , the coach makes the dynasty, not one great recruit .
Did I want Bo to wear Blue and White? Yes. Does this mean Iowa will pass us? No.
I've heard/read a lot over the last year, which has really ramped up over the last few days with Bo saying he was going to commit, and now committing to Iowa. But lets keep things in perspective. We've been here before when Spencer committed to the Hawks. Will other guys follow Bo just like guys followed Spencer, yes. Will we still get other guys. Also yes.
Bo not committing to PSU makes sense when you take a step back. ( Well, not the fact that I think PSU would allow him to reach his full potential, and that is not a knock on any other team. Just an observation of individual successes over the last 10 or so years ). I'm sure Bo wants to wrestle right away. With Blaze coming in to take over for BB, and SVN still there for another two years, there would be some overlap. Does he beat either one of them coming out of the gate, I guess we will find out. Does Jax, Melvin, and Keegan follow suit? Wait for it, just like Kem, Warner, Young, Murin, Teasedale, etc.
I must admit, the reaction of everyone is a lot better with this recruiting loss than it was with Spencer. I fully expect PSU to still contend for national titles while Bo is at Iowa.
I wish Bo well. Hopefully he stays healthy and it brings competitiveness to the national tournament. I must admit, while I love the throttling PSU has been doing in March, it is a lot more fun when one of our guys wins in the finals to seal the deal.
Lets shift our focus to Jax, Mocco, and Miller. If we miss on those, the Bachmans and Hutcherson are waiting.
We Are!
I've heard/read a lot over the last year, which has really ramped up over the last few days with Bo saying he was going to commit, and now committing to Iowa. But lets keep things in perspective. We've been here before when Spencer committed to the Hawks. Will other guys follow Bo just like guys followed Spencer, yes. Will we still get other guys. Also yes.
Bo not committing to PSU makes sense when you take a step back. ( Well, not the fact that I think PSU would allow him to reach his full potential, and that is not a knock on any other team. Just an observation of individual successes over the last 10 or so years ). I'm sure Bo wants to wrestle right away. With Blaze coming in to take over for BB, and SVN still there for another two years, there would be some overlap. Does he beat either one of them coming out of the gate, I guess we will find out. Does Jax, Melvin, and Keegan follow suit? Wait for it, just like Kem, Warner, Young, Murin, Teasedale, etc.
I must admit, the reaction of everyone is a lot better with this recruiting loss than it was with Spencer. I fully expect PSU to still contend for national titles while Bo is at Iowa.
I wish Bo well. Hopefully he stays healthy and it brings competitiveness to the national tournament. I must admit, while I love the throttling PSU has been doing in March, it is a lot more fun when one of our guys wins in the finals to seal the deal.
Lets shift our focus to Jax, Mocco, and Miller. If we miss on those, the Bachmans and Hutcherson are waiting.
We Are!
On balance I am happy.
I wanted Bo here but Iowa? To each his own. None will convince me he wasn't bought. Sorry, but it's a bit obvious if you really look at where wrestler's are developed the best. Both tOSU and OSU are far superior from a development point of view, than Iowa. Yes I am projecting with OSU, but Iowa has a decade of evidence. They are their record, with results and more importantly with the talent they acquire. Anyone who witnesses that beat down of an all star #2 team in the country, and says I want to go there, is focusing on the wrong things.
Had Bo and Jax complimented Ross and the current recruiting class at OSU, I think we have a real competition starting in 2027. I will admit I was more than a bit concerned with that scenario.
Now we have Iowa, OSU and tOSU jockying for second while PSU will stay a level above.
I do not think 160+ point years are sustainable and we may be living in what will someday be called 'Peak PSU', but noone is quickly moving into a position to dethrone us.
More level competition across 4-5 programs is great for the sport.
Cael wants kids who want to be here and we aren't 'buying' anyone. 4-5 years of intense social media, questions from teammates about the size of the bag, and ultimately he chose an inferior program. It is as it should be.
I wanted Bo here but Iowa? To each his own. None will convince me he wasn't bought. Sorry, but it's a bit obvious if you really look at where wrestler's are developed the best. Both tOSU and OSU are far superior from a development point of view, than Iowa. Yes I am projecting with OSU, but Iowa has a decade of evidence. They are their record, with results and more importantly with the talent they acquire. Anyone who witnesses that beat down of an all star #2 team in the country, and says I want to go there, is focusing on the wrong things.
Had Bo and Jax complimented Ross and the current recruiting class at OSU, I think we have a real competition starting in 2027. I will admit I was more than a bit concerned with that scenario.
Now we have Iowa, OSU and tOSU jockying for second while PSU will stay a level above.
I do not think 160+ point years are sustainable and we may be living in what will someday be called 'Peak PSU', but noone is quickly moving into a position to dethrone us.
More level competition across 4-5 programs is great for the sport.
Cael wants kids who want to be here and we aren't 'buying' anyone. 4-5 years of intense social media, questions from teammates about the size of the bag, and ultimately he chose an inferior program. It is as it should be.
Yeah, this. I wish him well. I was hoping he would choose Penn State, but we're not going to get every single elite recruit. It doesn't work that way. We got Duke, we got Blaze, they got Bassett. Hopefully, we get Jax, but if not, we'll just have to compete against him and beat him, too.
I'm not going to jump to that conclusion. Spencer has been his idol since he was like 8. Don't discount the allure of going to train with your childhood idol who is now an Olympic medalist. There are plenty of things that could have been the deciding factor that we don't think should be important (besides just $$$).
We also know now that DT doesn't have a Starship with tractor beam.
He made the best move based on two things: money and ego. I'm sure the money he's getting is completely stupid so you can't blame him for that and his personality and need for 100% of the attention could never have seen him come to PSU. This is Spencer Lee all over again, he's going to be very good and but never win a team title.
The downside for him is that today's PSU is nowhere near what they were in Spencer's day. He may win a few matches against the good guys but guys like SVN, Duke, Sealey are going to be right there with him while having better coaching/training partners. His only chance at true greatness/world titles/Olympic gold is at PSU. I'm thinking his career will see him have to face serious studs every time he wrestles PSU and after TnT run him into the ground he's going to be lucky to finish 2nd. But on the other hand he's getting PAID which will make for a better life than wrestling accomplishments ever will.
The downside for him is that today's PSU is nowhere near what they were in Spencer's day. He may win a few matches against the good guys but guys like SVN, Duke, Sealey are going to be right there with him while having better coaching/training partners. His only chance at true greatness/world titles/Olympic gold is at PSU. I'm thinking his career will see him have to face serious studs every time he wrestles PSU and after TnT run him into the ground he's going to be lucky to finish 2nd. But on the other hand he's getting PAID which will make for a better life than wrestling accomplishments ever will.
Would Spencer have been any less of his idol if he had committed 4 months earlier, or if he had waited to commit on the previously scheduled date a few months later?
Something changed to cause him to abruptly accelerate his date. If it wasn't an offer with a short deadline, then what was it?
If Blaze marketed himself like Bo does we'd all be talking about him. Marcus is the quintessential PSU kid who is all about chopping that wood and carrying water. TnT will take what's left of his "machine gun mindset" and teach him how to wrestle on the edge, get stall calls and win by a takedown.
PSU should have two more National Championships by then.... One bought wrestler isn't changing Iowa's fortunes - good luck to Iowa keeping their other mercenaries the way they've gone about this, because I'm sure they're not going to stick around making less than the new higher amount they could be making elsewhere... It's laughable of Iowa to think they can win this type of unsustainable game longterm....
Yep, that mountain of Olympic gold that former PSU wrestlers are sitting on🙄. The all-time number is one, fewer than four years since it was cast. Spencer out placing the rest of the men's team and every NLWC athlete last year must have been a fluke. I don't doubt that the NLWC is currently stacked, and I was in Paris cheering just as loud for the NLWC guys as I was for Spencer. But to say the only way someone like Bo can achieve world and Oly greatness is by going to PSU just shows how myopic and spoiled some of you have become with the success of others with which you've had absolutely nothing to do.
Whether by the long haul or the bandwagon, you're all fans of what is shaping up to be among the greatest college sports dynasty runs ever, yet many here insist on trashing kids/young men who deign to enroll elsewhere, questioning their motives, fabricating or embellishing nonsense from Twitter rumors about bags as though no one in Happy Valley has an NIL contract (including the current largest in the sport), and even disparaging the faith they reference as guiding their decision. I know the Internet loud mouths don't represent the entire fanbase, but some of you really need perspective. Just wish the kid well and move on with your lives, which likely include PSU titles for at least the next couple of years.
Dude, one bought wrestler isn't changing the Squawkeyes' fortunes - PSU is going to be enjoying more than a "couple more" Team National Championships LMAO. All the Squawkeyes have done is raise the rent for all their other current, and future, mercenaries - good luck trying to win this type of game because the Squawkeyes don't have the resources to sustain what they've created long-term.
^ I rest my case. If you strain your neck skyward real quick, you may yet be able to catch a glimpse of the point going over your head.
Speaking of tOSU I was travelling home after dealing with some intractable family stuff the night of the 2018 dual. I pulled over, got the meet on the radio just in time to hear that Nickal got a last minute turn on Martin to get the major and then I listened as Cassar beat Moore and Nick Nevills held off Snyder just enough.
That was memorable, the Buckeyes thought they had that one in the bag.
Your pointless bloviating didn't go over my head champ, nor does it change facts and reality. Yes, PSU athletes have NIL Agreements but they weren't derived via a cheesy internet "blind auction" (nor did PSU participate in the auction) - a cheesy internet auction that is going to ultimately destroy the "team" atmosphere in the squawkeye locker-room (just curious, how do you think the Squawkeyes current mercenaries are going to feel about a Jr in high school who has never wrestled a match for the Squawkeyes being paid many multiples what they are?).
Norman Braman was the owner at the time. And yes he was cheap & players hated him but he wasn’t in debt. That was Leonard Tose, who sold the eagles to Braman in 1985 to cover gambling losses and other issues.
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Does Bo Bassett's mom wear glasses? If so, she should start stocking up on some extra pairs.
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