And tOSU lost the top Ohio recruit to PSU and Iowa lost their top in-state recruit to Ok St. recruiting isn’t local at all anymore.Much like PSU lost their top in state prospect to Iowa. Yep.
And tOSU lost the top Ohio recruit to PSU and Iowa lost their top in-state recruit to Ok St. recruiting isn’t local at all anymore.Much like PSU lost their top in state prospect to Iowa. Yep.
Who is being petty? Everyone on this board knows that I have been a vocal opponent of the Bo Bassett marketing/auction campaign since last summer. It never felt right to me. So no sour grapes here. This is one of those situations where everyone got what they wanted. There were no losers. That said, it is perfectly fine to point out what DID happen. The Bassett marketing campaign worked. Good luck to Bo and I hope he always placed behind the PSU guy.And you know this how? This is exactly the type of petty sour grapes that we should strive to be above.
I want 12 losses. I see no need to default the dual matchup nor Big10s.Our volume may suggest a meltdown to Hawk visitors, but the content seems quite measured. The “power of gold” tipped the scale to Hawks over Cowboys (silly me thinks we were always a longshot due to the real possibility of Bo not making the starting lineup ). Heresy against such a phenom? Nah, not with Blaze and Duke in the room.
I’m with @tikk10. Bo to Iowa energizes our sport’s best rivalry. I wish him an injury-free career and, graciously, only four losses to Lions, one each coming annually and dramatically in late March.
Hasn't this pretty much been the entire history of the sport though?I actually get a little nervous that we're seeing that situation now when you look how badly Penn State has beaten all of the opponents so far this season. I'll always be rooting for our guys to win, but it will help keep the sport strong if teams like Ok State and Iowa get to the point where there's some serious competition for the national championship.
Yep. Have no problem whatever his reason is. Also have no problem how Iowa got him to go there as long as it's within the rules.Which is the kid's every right to do.
What some Iowa folk apparently want is for people not to notice.
Penn State football fans are very pessimistic but the reality is that Penn State football has been much closer to beating Ohio State than Iowa has been to supplanting Penn State in wrestling.Look I’m a Penn State fan through and through but I couldn’t fathom sitting through that Friday and picking the other side. But money talks.
I say the same thing when Ohio State beats Penn State on the field every Fall the other way. Of course sane people would rather be part of Ohio State football right now.
I am all for anything that keeps getting the twins extended.Yep. Have no problem whatever his reason is. Also have no problem how Iowa got him to go there as long as it's within the rules.
I kinda like Tom knowing that one PA kid already got him an extension instead of being replaced and another one committed at a perfect time to help when his contract runs out in a couple years.![]()
Just awakening from a log winters nap (post surgery) to catch up on the saga of BB. Can’t do a whole lot today so I spent the morning reading all 5 pages of PSU reaction to this semi-disappointment. Gotta say that most of us have a balanced view of Bo’s choice. I always remember l all the other high profile recruitments I’ve watched over the last 30-40 years (maybe longer). While the internet has accelerated the hype train,Wouldn't be so sure this is going to help the Squawkeyes by the time he gets there... - tell me, let's assume you're currently at cornville and winning matches for them (and even potentially AA'ing for them) and you have eligibility after this year (and other programs interested in your services), how are you going to feel about a HS Jr being paid many multiples what you are when he shows up in the 26-27? How you figure what just took place is good for the Squawkeye locker-room is beyond me - the lesson the Squawkeyes just taught all their wrestlers by participating in the orchestrated "blind auction" seeking as many bidders as possible to jack the price up as high as possible... - they taught their existing mercenaries they should follow the money.
No, no. This is high school. To truly emulate Spencer he has to tear an ACL and lose 6-5 in the finals to somebody he teched last year.Maybe he will get decked in the semis and not be bothered to wrestle in the consis. Just like his favorite wrestler.
Iowa fans basically shutting down the state to celebrate Bassett. I didn't see any invitation to get off work and party when [insert major recruit] committed to Penn State.It’s all good. Just read a post on GIA that we are in full meltdown. I don’t see that but folks would prob be posting the same here if roles were reversed. Iowa needed a dub and I’m kind of glad they got one. I don’t see Bo as a game-changer vs us but I guess we will see. Good luck to Bo.
Why? Because we are worried about Okie State or mad at DT? I'd rather lose on the mat to Okie State than Iowa and their obnoxious past-looking fans.Yep. That's where I landed here: Better Iowa than Oklahoma State.
Not really. Look at the 2018 dual with Ohio State and the NCAA championships that same year. That was one of the most exciting seasons in a long time and Bo's pin in the NCAA finals really capped it off. I like seeing Penn State win but I also know that the survival of the sport is way more important than any one team. Exciting competition is what attracts attention.Hasn't this pretty much been the entire history of the sport though?
My answer is, when I can open Twitter and not see Iowa fans bringing up Jerry Sandusky in response to a recruiting battle, then I'll care when you want to give us moral lecturesYep, that mountain of Olympic gold that former PSU wrestlers are sitting on🙄. The all-time number is one, fewer than four years since it was cast. Spencer out placing the rest of the men's team and every NLWC athlete last year must have been a fluke. I don't doubt that the NLWC is currently stacked, and I was in Paris cheering just as loud for the NLWC guys as I was for Spencer. But to say the only way someone like Bo can achieve world and Oly greatness is by going to PSU just shows how myopic and spoiled some of you have become with the success of others with which you've had absolutely nothing to do.
Whether by the long haul or the bandwagon, you're all fans of what is shaping up to be among the greatest college sports dynasty runs ever, yet many here insist on trashing kids/young men who deign to enroll elsewhere, questioning their motives, fabricating or embellishing nonsense from Twitter rumors about bags as though no one in Happy Valley has an NIL contract (including the current largest in the sport), and even disparaging the faith they reference as guiding their decision. I know the Internet loud mouths don't represent the entire fanbase, but some of you really need perspective. Just wish the kid well and move on with your lives, which likely include PSU titles for at least the next couple of years.
You basically said a high school kid was bought and paid for and that's the only reason he went where he did, without any actual proof of any of it. That's petty sour grapes in my book. Be better. We're better than that.Who is being petty? Everyone on this board knows that I have been a vocal opponent of the Bo Bassett marketing/auction campaign since last summer. It never felt right to me. So no sour grapes here. This is one of those situations where everyone got what they wanted. There were no losers. That said, it is perfectly fine to point out what DID happen. The Bassett marketing campaign worked. Good luck to Bo and I hope he always placed behind the PSU guy.
True. But at the same time, Iowa has beaten Penn State on the mats since Penn State has beaten Ohio State, and Iow a wrestling also has a natty. So while Penn State has been closer on the field, Iowa wrestling overall has still achieved much more than Penn State football.Penn State football fans are very pessimistic but the reality is that Penn State football has been much closer to beating Ohio State than Iowa has been to supplanting Penn State in wrestling.
Isn't that the way it played out? His "schedule" for his recruitment was drastically altered because he received an incredible monetary offer with an expiration date (seemingly hours after PSU wrecked Iowa). Facts seem to bear out the premise that the offer was much greater than any other offer available. I don't think it's sour grapes but instead it's an accurate portrayal of what actually happened. People are free to make all sorts of after-the-fact rationalizations for his decision, but, frankly, those ring very hollow.You basically said a high school kid was bought and paid for and that's the only reason he went where he did, without any actual proof of any of it. That's petty sour grapes in my book. Be better. We're better than that.
I never understand the "We're better than that".You basically said a high school kid was bought and paid for and that's the only reason he went where he did, without any actual proof of any of it. That's petty sour grapes in my book. Be better. We're better than that.
Iowa had a natty largely due to the nonsense caused by cancelling 20 and giving some, but not all, guys an extra year. Looking back at how 20 was seeded, I think Penn State pulls out the win. And without the changes in eligibility, I'm not sure Iowa wins a team title after that.True. But at the same time, Iowa has beaten Penn State on the mats since Penn State has beaten Ohio State, and Iow a wrestling also has a natty. So while Penn State has been closer on the field, Iowa wrestling overall has still achieved much more than Penn State football.
Hoping recovery is uncomplicated, straightforward and relatively quick.Just awakening from a log winters nap (post surgery) to catch up on the saga of BB. Can’t do a whole lot today so I spent the morning reading all 5 pages of PSU reaction to this semi-disappointment. Gotta say that most of us have a balanced view of Bo’s choice. I always remember l all the other high profile recruitments I’ve watched over the last 30-40 years (maybe longer). While the internet has accelerated the hype train,
It is my observation that only about 50-70% of elite cruits AA, less than 40% win a Natty, and only 1 in 10 wins multiple Nattys. Maybe I’m a bit off with these numbers, but, the fact is that stockpiling 2-3 elite recruits each year is the best strategy for building National Championship teams. Bo’s gonna be good in college, but, his chances of winning 3-4 natty’s is low …. and having “ONE” elite recruit in Iowa ain’t gonna change the weather in March. I now return to the sleepy somnolence of my meds.
Agree with this. Sour grapes implies you're butt hurt about something and then making up stuff to fit your narrative.Isn't that the way it played out? His "schedule" for his recruitment was drastically altered because he received an incredible monetary offer with an expiration date (seemingly hours after PSU wrecked Iowa). Facts seem to bear out the premise that the offer was much greater than any other offer available. I don't think it's sour grapes but instead it's an accurate portrayal of what actually happened. People are free to make all sorts of after-the-fact rationalizations for his decision, but, frankly, those ring very hollow.
Getting as many as we do makes for great entertainment. All one must do is stand outside Lorenzo and watch Larry Lee come up to every PSU kid asking if he (Larry) can hook the PSU kid up with a meeting. Larry subtly points by nudging his head towards the weight training area of Lorenzo where Bob is standing with cash bags and Bobby wearing a yellow Hawkeye wrestling security shirt.Agree with this. Sour grapes implies you're butt hurt about something and then making up stuff to fit your narrative.
I think the vast majority of this board are unfazed at how this played out and wouldn't want PSU to go to the lengths that Iowa needed to to land one kid who is a great wrestler, but certainly not any greater than 5 or 6 kids in the 2025 and 2026 classes.
Iowa really needed to do this - [shrugs shoulders] - we didn't. Okie State didn't either. Good luck. As far as I'm concerned we have two kids coming in this year who are at least as good of recruits and probably a little better IMO. And we still have a shot for another one. It's not like we can get them all.
2 years, 2026-27.Again, is he wrestling collegiately next season? Or in two years? Which one?
Thank you. Good Lord that was getting frustrating 😂2 years, 2026-27.
It’s high school man, he's 18, not 12. You mean even though Richie O (and several other wrestling reporters) confirmed that the NIL deal Iowa offered was significantly bigger than any other NIL package that was offered by other schools?You basically said a high school kid was bought and paid for and that's the only reason he went where he did, without any actual proof of any of it. That's petty sour grapes in my book. Be better. We're better than that.
Iowa has a national title and has beaten them in the arena.Iowa had a natty largely due to the nonsense caused by cancelling 20 and giving some, but not all, guys an extra year. Looking back at how 20 was seeded, I think Penn State pulls out the win. And without the changes in eligibility, I'm not sure Iowa wins a team title after that.
Saying Iowa has achieved more than Penn State football is questionable because until this year, the whole format of college football regularly allowed good teams to not compete because of bad luck or bias. See 2017 UCF.
Penn State football fans regularly play the game of exaggerating the dominance of Ohio State. Average score in the last 8 games was 31-23 Ohio State. That's a lot closer than Iowa has been on average. And several of those losses of ours come with caveats that were beyond Penn State's control.
What facts? Internet rumors?Isn't that the way it played out? His "schedule" for his recruitment was drastically altered because he received an incredible monetary offer with an expiration date (seemingly hours after PSU wrecked Iowa). Facts seem to bear out the premise that the offer was much greater than any other offer available. I don't think it's sour grapes but instead it's an accurate portrayal of what actually happened. People are free to make all sorts of after-the-fact rationalizations for his decision, but, frankly, those ring very hollow.
When Rutgers inside Bill Garbarini says he knows what Rutgers offered and what Iowa offered, I tend to believe him. "No we were not close to Iowa’s $5 mill but in 7 figures".What facts? Internet rumors?
Just because you are uninformed, no need to assume the rest of us are as well.What facts? Internet rumors?
Athletes routinely tell us it was all about the money. Their phrase is usually "I chose them because they showed me the most "LOVE". Although it might be spelled L$VEWhat else is he going to say? In the history of sports, how many have admittednsi signing for the money? Believe it or not, some people actually have real information regarding this recruitment.
yeah. wasn't the $$$ though. think it was the snow shoveling 😁!!I am all for anything that keeps getting the twins extended.
Most of us have heatd enough coach-speak to not take him at face value.How would I (or you) possibly know that? It’s just wrong to jump to conclusions that is something nefarious. He himself said the NIL offers were all similar. Maybe he just made up his mind and wanted to be done with it? Who knows.
This right hereStop being so naive. The "offers being similar" is a fig leaf to hide the fact that it was all about money. The offers were not similar in any multiverse version of this story. The Bassetts got Slumlord to outbid his own highest bid. Congrats to the family. It was well played.
It certainly is, but quit the bs "Iowa has always been my favorite, I've known my whole life its where I wanted to go" I call BS on this takeWhich is the kid's every right to do.
What some Iowa folk apparently want is for people not to notice.
I don't know what your problem is, but Bo WAS bought and paid for. Quite literally. If you disagree that is fine. I don't care. Just stop insulting everyone's intelligence by saying people have sour grapes if they disagree with you.You basically said a high school kid was bought and paid for and that's the only reason he went where he did, without any actual proof of any of it. That's petty sour grapes in my book. Be better. We're better than that.